Turkish Politics & Internal Affairs

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https://twitter.com/x/status/1029981080298946560

 

[OguzSenturk]

He is a clown where nobody cares outside of Turkey.

 

[tesla]

An old friend just shared this with me and helped me with translation. I guess here, then Turkey's PM (now president) complains about the opposition being anti-US.

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thats news belong 2005 year. in thats times turkey was heavyly depended american stuffs
now this situation is changed .

He is a clown where nobody cares outside of Turkey.

lol to example %100 pure moronic thinking

 

[TaiShang]

thats news belong 2005 year. in thats times turkey was heavyly depended american stuffs
now this situation is changed .

But what has really changed? I think under his own watch Turkey got involved in F-35 program, which sounds to me the mother of all dependencies (as we find out today).

Besides, mere 10 years is not enough for such a dramatic change about such a vital matter for a country.

Even more capable nations will not make such a strong statement ten years ago and then bring the situation to this point as you are in today.

Foreign policy is like a heavy ship. One cannot make such violent maneuvers. If he/she does, the result will be catastrophic, as Turkey experiences today.

 

[tesla]

But what has really changed? I think under his own watch Turkey got involved in F-35 program, which sounds to me the mother of all dependencies (as we find out today).

Besides, mere 10 years is not enough for such a dramatic change about such a vital matter for a country.

Even more capable nations will not make such a strong statement ten years ago and then bring the situation to this point as we are in today.

Foreign policy is like a heavy ship. One cannot make such violent maneuvers. If he/she does, the result will be catastrophic, as Turkey experiences today.

today is different from in that time. America openly attack turkey via military cups,kurdistan project, evangelic plans etc turkish people choose the fight. thats it

 

[OguzSenturk]

Foreign policy is like a heavy ship. One cannot make such violent maneuvers. If he/she does, the result will be catastrophic, as Turkey experiences today.

Unfortunately.. We are paying the price of one retard's stupid policies as a Nation.

Soon we will pay more price in Idlib because of one retard's stupidity.

If we won't cut the connection between KRG and YPG soon, we will also pay huge price in Iraq and Syria.

We will also pay huge price of that retard's inability to defend Army's modernisation interests as F35 is gonna be cutten off and he didn't show any interest to work with China.

Future of our nation is so dark, hopefully this will change soon.

 

[ScreamLikeMe]

Unfortunately.. We are paying the price of one retard's stupid policies as a Nation.

Soon we will pay more price in Idlib because of one retard's stupidity.

If we won't cut the connection between KRG and YPG soon, we will also pay huge price in Iraq and Syria.

We will also pay huge price of that retard's inability to defend Army's modernisation interests as F35 is gonna be cutten off and he didn't show any interest to work with China.

Future of our nation is so dark, hopefully this will change soon.

In short if Turkey doesn't listen to US it will pay price.

 

[OguzSenturk]

In short if Turkey doesn't listen to US it will pay price.

The opposite; If Turkey cannot cut direct military threats come from US proxies (YPG, PKK, HTS), and couldnt create alternatives to US in military/economic areas, we will pay price.

Listenning US would bury us deeper into sh!thole It's not even option for us.

 

[ScreamLikeMe]

The opposite; If Turkey cannot cut direct military threats come from US proxies (YPG, PKK, HTS), and couldnt create alternatives to US in military/economic areas, we will pay price.

Listenning US would bury us deeper into sh!thole It's not even option for us.

US is the life line of Turkish defence industries. More over, US will never allow Turkey to escape the circle.

 

[TaiShang]

turkish people choose the fight. thats it

Everybody does that. Every single state slapped back the US exact same tariffs. That's not important anymore. Not special. It is not backbone.

Consider what Turkey would further do if the US took more steps? Do you think the US cannot order Qatar to put its tail between the legs and sit back?

I think your president can manage domestic politics well to his own advantage. On that, he is a master. But, when he tries to run his foreign policy as if it were his own domestic audience, the problem arises. Because, the world has extremely capable and strategic-minded politicians. They often outclass the Turkish president on managing international relations.

Unfortunately.. We are paying the price of one retard's stupid policies as a Nation.

Soon we will pay more price in Idlib because of one retard's stupidity.

If we won't cut the connection between KRG and YPG soon, we will also pay huge price in Iraq and Syria.

We will also pay huge price of that retard's inability to defend Army's modernisation interests as F35 is gonna be cutten off and he didn't show any interest to work with China.

Future of our nation is so dark, hopefully this will change soon.

In short if Turkey doesn't listen to US it will pay price.

I think the Turkish president put Turkey in that situation singlehandedly. I read he continuously despised and ridiculed educated, secular, and pragmatist (did not pay attention much to sectarian or ummah-based arguments) minds within Turkey's very elite foreign policy circles. Foreign policy was reduced to performing prayers in foreign capitals as if it were year 1300.

Fighting the US is a war that can never be won. National pride or thick backbone does not help. In the end, to be poor, hungry and wounded but very prideful is not graceful and does not draw respect.

I guess the only way out for Turkey is to quickly go back to correct the regional mistakes that were made over the years. Destruction can only be faced with construction if the risks are to be reduced. Again, build and secure the region by cooperating with the national leaderships of sovereign countries, which also includes President Assad. Otherwise, history may surprise us that Syria, assaulted by 20 powerful countries and some 1 million foreign fighters outlives Turkey.

 

[ScreamLikeMe]

which also includes President Assad. Otherwise, history may surprise us that Syria, assaulted by 20 powerful countries and some 1 million foreign fighters outlives Turkey

Problem is that, they have issues with Assad due to his Shia background. Moon can be seen with Jupiter but it's tough to bring both of these people together.
Turkey in actual lack technology expertise of its own. And they have to go long way. The policies in turkey never allowed them to develop their own capability and yet they can't produce things without consultancy from US. Neither they have enough natural resources. But sufficient to sustain themselves averagely.

 

[OguzSenturk]

US will never allow Turkey to escape the circle.

There is no circle. You guys overestimating US. They are dependent on Turkey in military area as they need bosporus access, airspace access, military base usage rights in Turkey. We have nothing on them.

Trade between US and Turkey is not large as well, and their exports are mostly last stage product and our exports are mostly raw materials or medial components, which we can always sell another nation where they cannot find 10 million new iphone users in a day.

They don't have much leverage in diplomacy neither, US soft power on Turkey is pretty low since what they can do as max is sanctioning diplomats or kicking our diplomats out of US. Russian and even Chinese soft power on Turkey is much more stronger than US.

 

[ScreamLikeMe]

There is no circle. You guys overestimating US. They are dependent on Turkey in military area as they need bosporus access, airspace access, military base usage rights in Turkey. We have nothing on them.

This is the most dangerous aspect of strategic partner ship. This means, you will some or the other way allow your land for foreign soldiers. This bring destabilization of these routes. If you stop US from these routes they will not keep quite. They will simply destabalize the route and you will be inviting rouge elements inside your border.

Just see what happened with Pakistan for playing same game, all of those areas and routes are now destabalized. They only survived because they have the nuclear power.

 

[TaiShang]

Problem is that, they have issues with Assad due to his Shia background. Moon can be seen with Jupiter but it's tough to bring both of these people together.

Then it is too bad. I still hope this crisis will eventually lead to a constructive outcome of a more peaceful region. I think, now facing the US threat, almost all countries in the region will be willing to get together and act around a set of common principles.

There is no circle. You guys overestimating US. They are dependent on Turkey in military area as they need bosporus access, airspace access, military base usage rights in Turkey. We have nothing on them.

What is more concerning I guess is the US soft-destruction capacity, rather than hard destruction. They are able to destabilize nations especially if that nation and the region the nation is in is readily unstable.

 

[OguzSenturk]

If you stop US from these routes they will not keep quite.

Oh, are they quiet right now? They will keep barking in white house, and orange clown will write few tweets. Lol who cares?

Do you know when someone starts threatening others? The moment he realizes that he has no soft power on them. So he loses his mind and starts screaming with empty threats, which will make US lose more diplomatic power around the globe