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I'm a staunch secularist, but I am completely against the LGBT movement. Not only do I find it repulsing, but I think it's very similar to political Islam. What I mean is that it uses baseless propaganda to make people turn on others for disagreeing with them.

Although I don't think we should give gay people death penalties, or life sentences, we should make LGBT propaganda illegal as it's manipulative and morally wrong. Here in Australia it's a taboo to say anything bad about the LGBT movement, even if your argument was completely justified. I find that absolutely ridiculous.

They teach little kids who know nothing about the world that being gay is okay... Truth is that it is not. This type of propaganda is legitimately turning people into sexually confused morons. Could you imagine cavemen telling their sons that it is okay for them to f*ck men? Hell no. It would lead to the end of their bloodline, and truth be told, everyone back then was against gay people as it is simply human nature to be against something which could end your bloodline.

To make this situation worse, children younger than FIVE have had sex change surgeries over here in Australia...

Both Islamist's and Leftists shouldn't be given the right to wreak havoc in our country.
 
BERLIN (Reuters) - Germans see U.S. President Donald Trump as a bigger challenge for German foreign policy than authoritarian leaders in North Korea, Russia or Turkey, according to a survey by the Koerber Foundation.


U.S. President Donald Trump speaks at the Utah State Capitol, where he announced big cuts to Utah's sprawling wilderness national monuments, in Salt Lake City, Utah, U.S., December 4, 2017. REUTERS/Kevin Lamarque
Topping the list of foreign policy concerns were refugees, with 26 percent of respondents worried about Germany’s ability to cope with inflows of asylum seekers.

Relations with Trump and the United States ranked second, with 19 percent describing them as a major challenge, followed by Turkey at 17 percent, North Korea at 10 percent and Russia at 8 percent.

Since entering the White House in January, Trump has unsettled Germans by pulling out of the Paris climate accord, refusing to certify an international agreement on Iran’s nuclear programme and criticizing Germany’s trade surplus and its contributions to the NATO military alliance.

Trump’s actions prompted the usually cautious German Chancellor Angela Merkel to say earlier this year that Berlin may not be able to rely on the United States in the future. She also urged Europe to take its fate into its own hands.

In the poll of 1,005 Germans of voting age, carried out in October, 56 percent of Germans described the relationship with the United States as bad or very bad.

Despite Merkel’s pledge, the survey showed deep scepticism in the population about Germany taking a more active role in international crises, with 52 percent of respondents saying the country should continue its post-war policy of restraint.


That may reflect the fact that neither Merkel nor her main challengers in the recent election campaign talked much about how Germany should respond to the challenges posed by Trump’s disruptive presidency and Britain’s looming departure from the European Union.

Last week, Norbert Roettgen, a member of Merkel’s conservative party and head of the foreign affairs committee in the Bundestag, decried a “deplorable” lack of leadership in educating Germans about the need to invest more in their own defense and security.

Reporting by Noah Barkin; Editing by Hugh Lawson

Our Standards:The Thomson Reuters Trust Principles.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...blem-than-north-korea-or-russia-idUSKBN1DZ0GY.
 
Thank you Feto, Chp and hdp sending people bitching about Turkey was the problem. Ther is no blame for germans, also they wher active in the Netherlands. When you talk about Turkey they are calling Erdogan, i don't give a fak.
 
Thank you Feto, Chp and hdp sending people bitching about Turkey was the problem. Ther is no blame for germans, also they wher active in the Netherlands. When you talk about Turkey they are calling Erdogan, i don't give a fak.


Or thank you AKP supporters for supporting an dictator-esque leader, who does undemocratic things while living in a democratic country. Supporting someone who calls Germany Nazis. Hmm who's at fault here?
 
Or thank you AKP supporters for supporting an dictator-esque leader, who does undemocratic things while living in a democratic country. Supporting someone who calls Germany Nazis. Hmm who's at fault here?


Well under Erdogan Turkey is the most democratic time of the Turkish Republic history:-), you chp voters newer lived under pressure. No army anymore who is acting when you scream, or supreme court who is closing a party with evidence from google. You will get use to it:(.
 
German sees turkey bigger problem, indian sees Bangali bigger prob than Pak, what is that state of mind here.
 
Turkey's Erdogan Threatens to Cut Ties With Israel Over U.S. Embassy Decision: Jerusalem 'Red Line' for Muslims
Possible U.S. recognition of Jerusalem as Israel's capital this week has prompted backlash from across the Middle East

Haaretz, Reuters and Noa Landau Dec 05, 2017 12:09 PM
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U.S. President Donald Trump, right, shakes hands with Recep Tayyip Erdogan, Turkey's president, during a news conference at the Roosevelt Room of the White House in Washington, D.C., U.S., on Tuesday, Michael Reynolds/Bloomberg
If Trump names Jerusalem Israeli capital, Palestinians will 'stop contact' with U.S., Abbas aide says
Trump delays final decision on moving U.S. Embassy to Jerusalem, White House says
PLO: U.S. recognition of Jerusalem as Israel's capital would be 'kiss of death' to two-state solution
Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan said on Tuesday that the possibility that U.S. President Donald Trump will recognize Jerusalem as Israel's capital "is a red line for Muslims."
He warned that if such a decision is made it "will result in Turkey's cutting diplomatic ties with Israel." Erdogan's comments echo a growing sentiment in the Arab world and international community who are warning the U.S. against the potential fallout from the move.
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The Turkish premier's announcement follows comments by the diplomatic adviser of Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas who said that the Palestinian leadership would "stop contacts" with the U.S. if Trump follows through with the move.
>> Trump, take note: How Jerusalem went from hosting 16 embassies to zero >>
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U.S. officials have said a possible recognition might come this week, prompting Arab and Muslim backlash.
Abbas' aide Majdi Khaldi said on Tuesday the U.S. would lose credibility as a Mideast mediator if Trump goes ahead with the move.
Nabil Shaath, a senior Palestinian official, had even harsher words.
"So Mr. Trump came up with the slogan of the 'deal of the century,' or 'the mother of all transactions', as Saddam Hussein would say. But the mother of all the deals dies here on the rocks in Jerusalem if he says tomorrow that he recognizes a united Jerusalem as the capital of Israel," Shaath told reporters. "It removes any chance he will play a role in an agreement. There is no deal that begins with the destruction of the two-state solution."

According to the Palestinians, they will turn to other countries in the world to serve as mediators in the negotiations should Trump proceed with such a decision on Jeruasalem, like China, Russia or European countries.
"Everyone conveyed a message that it would destroy any chance for peace. We do not want to reach violence, but we cannot prevent violence. ISIS is recruiting people to defend Jerusalem," said Shaath.
>> Trump delays final decision on moving U.S. Embassy to Jerusalem, White House says <<
Saudi Arabia also spoke out against the move, saying it hopes the U.S. will not recognize Jerusalem and warned such a decision would have serious implications, state news agency SPA reported on Tuesday.
"The recognition will have very serious implications and will be provocative to all Muslims' feelings," SPA said quoting an unnamed official source at the Saudi Foreign Ministry.
"The United States administration should take into account the negative implications of such a move and the Kingdom's hope not to take such a decision as this will affect the U.S. ability to continue its attempt of reaching a just solution for the Palestinian cause," the statement added.
On Monday, Saudi Arabia's Ambassador in Washington Prince Khalid bin Salman said any U.S. announcement on the status of Jerusalem before a final settlement is reached in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict would hurt the peace process and heighten regional tensions.
"The kingdom's policy - has been - and remains in support of the Palestinian people, and this has been communicated to the U.S. administration," Prince Khalid said in a statement.
Twenty-five former Israeli ambassadors, academics and peace activists on Monday expressed their opposition to the move in a letter to Trump's Mideast peace envoy Jason Greenblatt.
The letter was written on behalf of The Policy Working Group, an organization of Israeli activists with diplomatic, academic, political and media backgrounds, including former Israeli diplomats such as Ilan Baruch, Alon Liel and Elie Barnavi. The group wrote Greenblatt that "we are deeply concerned by recent reports that President Trump is seriously considering the announcement of his decision to unilaterally recognize Jerusalem as the capital city of Israel."
>>Trump, take note: How Jerusalem went from hosting 16 embassies to zero
"The status of Jerusalem, the city that houses the holy sites of the three monotheistic religions, lies at the core of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and must be determined within the context of resolving that conflict," the letter continued.
East Jerusalem, captured by Israel in 1967, is home to major Muslim, Christian and Jewish holy sites. The Palestinians seek it as a future capital, while Israel claims all of Jerusalem as its capital.
Arab League representatives were to discuss the Jerusalem controversy on Tuesday. The organization said on Monday that Trump's possible recognition would constitute "naked aggression" against Muslims and Arabs.

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'Utanç davası'nda gülenlere kötü haber

Bu olayda sadece sucu isleyenler degil onlarin cezasiz kalmasina yardimci olanlarda en az onlar kadar sucludur, bu ülkede fetö ugruna okadar masumun ahi alindi hesabini nasil ödeyecekler bakalim. Cikip her firsatta din tüccarligi yapmakda eksik durmayanlar hadi bakalim kara kara düsünün, gerci pek umurlarinda oldugunu sanmiyorumya.
 

How are these motherf*ckers not in jail? I don't understand how they can make blatant propaganda like this and get away with it.

I live in Australia and I'm eager to go to Turkey, but the way I see it, the country is turning into a sh*thole day by day. If we don't do something about these Islamist's there's going to be a civil war. They've been getting away with insulting Ataturk for years and now they're making traitors like Seyid Riza look innocent...

To make things 10x worse, Erdogan is now making the it legal to kill people as long as he opposes them (political opponents). As Meral Aksener stated, he is giving civilians weapons training... THIS IS HOW EVERY COUNTRY IN THE MIDDLE EAST HAS FALLEN INTO RUBBLE. Islamist's + Weapons + Training = death and destruction.

Turkey is too powerful to be taken down quickly. They've been planning our demise for years. Erdogan years ago had said that he wants to carve out "Lazistan" and "K*rdistan" within Turkish borders.. Do you think he just forgot about that? The bastard is a traitor. Everyone who supports him right now is either brainwashed, or a blatant traitor.

I've seen the true face of some of his supporters. One day they will post religious propaganda, the next day they will post a picture of a naked lady. They will insult Ataturk by calling him an alcoholic, and the next they will snort cocaine at a nightclub. They post a picture of a Turkish flag on their car's bonnet, the next day they call our ancient ancestors "Kafirs"............. I'm not making any of these up. You wanna hear a bad one? One guy shared a photo of a conscripted soldier with his head cut off and put a caption on it which would sicken just about anybody.

I don't know what to say anymore. A few years ago I didn't mind Erdogan supporters. As I sat and watched the way they act on social media I saw their true faces.

All I can say is that everyone who truly cares about Turkey needs to band together against these guys. I'm personally going to vote for IYI Parti as it unites people from different sides of the political spectrum. More importantly, it actually has a chance at crippling or even defeating AKP. But as we know, if Erdogan doesn't get what he wants from the 2019 election he will likely use his newly established militias.

At the risk of sounding melodramatic, or even prophetic: Some say he wants total chaos. Some say he wants total control. He will ultimately be faced with a coup. A real one this time around.

Stay strong. Stay defiant.

"Tanrı Türk'ü korusun ve yüceltsin, askerinin kılıcını keskin etsin, başını öne eğdirmesin. Varlığımız Türk varlığına armağan olsun."
 

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