Turkish Military is better than IDF

[MMM-E]

Most of your projects are far far away repeating same stuff again and again don't make you strongest military power in the region

Israel can not fight even HAMAS ..... what a pathetic Army
even HEZBOLLAH kicked Israeli Army in 2006

keep dreaming with Israel which only bombing civilians by Fighter Jets


Its an insult to Turkiye to compare with Israel

 

[PradoTLC]

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Once again Col. sees the likely hood of Turkish troops clashing in Gaza and praising the quality of Turkish military even versus against their own

Butt hurt comments to follow …

 

[White and Green with M/S]

Israel can not fight even HAMAS ..... what a pathetic Army
even HEZBOLLAH kicked Israeli Army in 2006

keep dreaming with Israel which only bombing civilians by Fighter Jets


Its an insult to Turkiye to compare with Israel

And you're doing same with your separatist with no results so you and they are same

 

[MMM-E]

But so OMTAS is considered as the Javelin turkish version?

OMTAS = TOW-2B
KARAOK = JAVELIN
UMTAS = HELLFIRE

5th gen OMTAS Anti-Tank Missile to compare with 2nd gen Russian KORNET and 3rd gen American TOW-2B

KARAOK shoulder launched Anti-Tank Missile
Turkiye even export KARAOK Anti-Tank Missile to Maleysia

UMTAS Anti-Tank Missile

We can use 40 km KUZGUN-KY Missile with IIR seeker to hunt enemy Tanks

to launch from land , naval and air platforms

also UMTAS-GM Blok 1/2 on the way

• CCD/IIR hybrid seeker
• 60kg missile weight
• 2m missile length
• 180mm diameter
• 32+km range from land vehicles
• 50+km range from Helicopters

UMTAS-GM Block-1 with two way datalink will be in inventory by 2024
UMTAS-GM Block-2 by 2025

Fifth generation ATGMs​

OMTAS ... Turkiye
AKERON MP ...France
SPIKE LR2 and ER2 ...Israel

 

[GreatHanWarrior]

Stick to the topic and don't troll

I don't need someone brainwashed by Jewish propaganda to tell me what to do.

 

[MMM-E]

And you're doing same with your separatist with no results so you and they are same

Israeli Army can not enter even the outskirts of Gaza .. so pathetic Army


on the other hand
A total of 35.786 PKK-YPG and ISIS terrorists have been neutralized by the Turkish Army as a result of operations since July 24, 2015 in Turkiye , Iraq and Syria


between 8 agust 2015 and 9 march 2016 , Turkish Army killed thousands of PKK terrorists in 22 Turkish districts

No any civilian loss .. because Turkiye did not use Air Force
just fight hand to hand in urban warfare




Its an insult to Turkiye to compare with Israel
We will never leave 10.000 of innocent deads behind us just like Israel

Turkish military operation in Syria

Operation Euphrates Shield

Operation Olive Branch​

Operation Spring Shield​

Operation Peace Spring

Turkish Armed Forces killed 3.322 Assad Regime militia including 6 generals and Iran backed Hezbollah and IRGC militia in a week in Idlib/Syria

also Turkish Armed Forces destroyed

3 UAVs
2 SU-24 Fighter Jets
1 L-39 Aircraft
8 Helicopters
8 Air Defense Systems
155 Tanks
51 Howitzers
52 MLRS
29 AFVs
68 Military Vehicles
15 Anti Tank Weapons
36 Pick-up mounted anti aircraft guns
49 Ammunition Trucks
10 Ammunition Storage
2 Missile Systems


We have seen pathetic Israeli Army against HEZBOLLAH in 2006

 

[White and Green with M/S]

I don't need someone brainwashed by Jewish propaganda to tell me what to do.

You're worst and most pathetic Troll here with no brain

 

[Canefields]

Heard of Iran contra affair ?

A few machine guns and a few missiles to free American hostages and get funds for the CIA to fund the Nicaragua thing. Give me a break. That was a few crumbs which the Iranians accepted in the hope that the Americans would stop funding Saddam with the multi- million monthly dollar supply

 

[RayKalm]

I swear if Pak had Saudi petro dollar support, we would wipe the floors with any mofo out there.

The Saudis and UAE do prop us up with loans all the time. They have even dropped money into Turkish banks recently, as well.

I think the most interesting conflict,would have been between Turkey and Iran. I think it would be interesting for the manpower,the indigenous weapons of each country,the patriotism and religious fervor of each country,one a majority Sunni and the other a majority Shia,I imagine it without NATO intervention for Turkey and no Russian intervention for Iran. Who would support Turkey? Probably Bosnia,Albania and half of Libya. Who would support Iran? Probably Lebanon,Syria,Iraq.

Azerbaijan would be sitting there trying to figure out what to do.

Imagine Turkey using TFSA,Libyan,Somalian and Iraqi Turkmen militias as cannon fodder. Iran using Lebanese,Afghan and Pakistani Shia militias as auxiliaries,as well as various Kurds from Syria and Iraq.

I wonder what would Saudi Arabia,Qatar and Pakistan do.

The Ottoman and Safavids, the Romans and Persians, the Greeks and Persian, etc., have gone through numerous wars in modern history. Both sides come on top of the other at times.

You're way too optimistic about Turkey's allies. We've fought 40 years against PKK terrorism and nobody came to fight for us. We stand alone.

Fortunately it's more than enough. We don't need proxies. Iran would be demolished. Iranian missiles and shahed 136 drones would do a lot of damage to Turkish cities and would kill a lot of civilians but they don't have anything that can stop the Turkish army.

I think Turkey Greece war would be more interesting. Especially after 2024 when Greece acquires F-35s. Turkish Navy is absolutely dominating the seas and the Turkish army is far bigger and more experienced. I would say better equipped too. Could Greek edge in the air be enough to fight off Turkey?

In a war between Turkey and Iran, Turkey would most likely come out at top, but at what cost? The cities would be demolished by Iranian missiles, bombarded to ruins, unless Iran practices what it preaches and does not resort to attacking civilians. The Turkish armed forces would roll into Iran very easily if they familiarize themselves with the terrain and mountains, but maintaining their forces and occupying will eventually rot Turkey and it's economy and make it weaker, not stronger.

It could end up in a draw, with Turkey being a slight victor. But weakened heavily.

 

[MMM-E]

In a war with Turkey and Iran, Turkey would most likely come out at top, but at what cost? The cities would be demolished by Iranian missiles, bombarded to ruins, unless Iran preaches what it practices and does not resort to attacking civilians. The Turkish armed forces would roll into Iran very easily if they familiarize themselves with the terrain and mountains, but maintaining their forces and occupying will eventually rot Turkey and it's economy and make it weaker, not stronger.

It could end up in a draw, with Turkey being a slight victor. But weakened heavily.

Turkiye will lose only Money

Iran will lose Money + Territorial Integrity


Almost half of Iran is TURK
There are 35-40 million Turks in Iran
in a war , Turkiye-Azerbaijan will liberate South Azerbaijan from Iran

Iran can not enter a war against Turkiye
This would be suicide for Iran

 

[MastanKhan]

As I always maintained when against a real military israelis would get hammered... and Col Douglas who worked with both Turkish and IDF makes that same analysis..

for those who dont about col Douglas please research before making stupid comments

Hi,

It is not about the IDF---but the military force standing behind the IDF---.

 

[GreatHanWarrior]

You're worst and most pathetic Troll here with no brain

You support Israel's killing of Palestinian children.

You don't have the ability to think independently.

You have no shame.

You have no human nature.

You have been serving Jewish propaganda agencies like a dog all your life.

 

[PradoTLC]

Hi,

It is not about the IDF---but the military force standing behind the IDF---.

Yes I know .. and as col Douglas said during 1973 if Israeli lines broke the US would militarily intervene


But this was just a side to side comparison.. Other countries like turkey have vastly improved

 

[retaxis]

Turkiye will lose only Money

Iran will lose Money + Territorial Integrity


Almost half of Iran is TURK
There are 35-40 million Turks in Iran
in a war , Turkiye-Azerbaijan will liberate South Azerbaijan from Iran
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Iran can not enter a war against Turkiye
This would be suicide for Iran

Turkey can not even beat pkk in 40 yrs so don't worry about Hamas who has their own territory. You are not biggest economy in the region its saudi arabia and then iran (adjusted for decreased sanctions). You are barely top 3 economically and you don't have start of the art weapons like egypt and gulf arabs or nukes like israel. Your 'truths' is your brainwashing that you want to unload on the rest of us.

 

[faithfulguy]

If you don't have this guy on ignore, you're using the forum wrong.


It's hard to withstand the onslaught of a thousand F-35s especially when we have so few radars that can detect them and so little coverage. They could strike almost anywhere but invade and occupy? hold your horses there lol

The British couldn't do it in 1915 when we were the absolute weakest.

US won’t need to invade Turkey. Turkey will realized it can’t fight against the US and will come to terms. The only way to prevent US invasion is to be like North Korea. Have nothing by nukes and the rockets to fire them.

But as for the question of would US be able to do a ground invasion of Turkey. It’s a cake walk once US air assets destroy Turkish planes and drones. Turks do not have enough AA missiles to go against USAF.

Finally. Isn’t it ridiculous to compare US military vs Turkish military. Turkish military is more is the scale of Iranian military or Greek military. It’s not even in the same ball park as the US military. A couple of Ohio class guided missile nuclear subs (not nuclear missile sub) and a few aircraft carrier assets can destroy the whole Turkish AF. The US navy 3rd fleet has a stronger air wing vs Turkish AF. US Air Force is not even needed. This discussion is not productive.