Turkish F-35 vs Israeli F-35

[Beny Karachun]

F 35 is probably garbage, it got destroyed 2 times without a fight..

Is that why Turkey wants them so bad? Airplanes crash.

 

[Dai Toruko]

Is that why Turkey wants them so bad? Airplanes crash.

If we are out, why not?!

 

[CAN_TR]

Is that why Turkey wants them so bad? Airplanes crash.

Turkey only ordered 24 F-35 so far, and it looks like they play on not to getting them, they have two options now...
- "Kick" us out and risk delays, but they also need to pay back the money we invested.
or...
- They deliver the purchased 24 F-35 and stfu.

 

[MMM-E]

American control F-35 is garbage for the Turkish Air Force


Turkey can not finance F-35 program
100 F-35A price+equipments+maintenance for 30 years = $40 billion

since 2013 Turkish Economy under attack by the US and Turkish currency dropped by 300%

100 F-35A : $10 billion ,,,,,,,, by 2013 $10 bil = 20 bil TL , but by 2019 $10 bil = 60 billion Turkish Lira
better to buy more S400 Air Defense System for $2,5 billion and to spend $7,5 billion for TFX indigineous 5th gen Fighter Jet development project


-- S-400 , HISAR-A , HISAR-O , SIPER , G-40 , KORKUT Air Defense Systems can protect Turkish Airspace from Cruise Missiles , Fighter Jets and strategic Bombers

-- 230+ F-16C/D Fighter Jets armed with AIM-120B and AIM-120C7 BVR air to air missiles to protect Turkish Airspace from Fighter Jets ..... ( 118 km BOZDOGAN indigenous BVR air to air missile and Aselsan AESA Radar are coming )

-- Turkish Navy 12 Frigates armed with 608 of ESSM and SM-1 Air Defense Missiles

-- Turkish Navy to get 7 of TF-2000 class AAW Destroyers will be armed with long range - high altitude Air Defense Missiles to protect Turkish Airspace from Fighter Jets

-- TAI HURJET can carry 2 SOM Cruise Missiles to attack on military and strategic targets in Greece , Israel , Egypt , Iran ( SOM will have range of 500km with Turkish KTJ3200 engine )

-- Turkish Airforce CCIP modernized F-16s can carry 2 SOM Cruise Missiles

-- Turkey develops supersonic stealth UCAV to carry SOM Cruise Missile for SEAD and DEAD role

-- AKSUNGUR and AKINCI UCAVs to carry guided Bombs including 110 km KGK

-- 280/1.000 km KHAN-BORA Ballistic Missiles to engage on military and strategic targets in Greece,Israel,Egypt

-- 800 km GEZGIN land/naval based Cruise Missiles to engage on military and strategic targets in Greece,Israel,Egypt

-- 250 km ATMACA anti ship Missile to hit Enemy Navies in Aegean and Eastern Mediterranean

-- Turkey develops TF-X 5th gen Fighter Jet for 2030


so without F-35 Turkish Armed Forces can survive

 

[500]

so without F-35 Turkish Armed Forces can survive

You can survive without F-16 too. Just do whatever Putin and Khamenai tells u as u are doing now.

Turkish airspace companies will lose 12 billion $ contracts. Bt its not a big deal since few Erdogans supporters are working in these companies anyway.

 

[Islamic faith&Secularism]

You can survive without F-16 too. Just do whatever Putin and Khamenai tells u as u are doing now.

Turkish airspace companies will lose 12 billion $ contracts. Bt its not a big deal since few Erdogans supporters are working in these companies anyway.

The whole world knows that Israel lives in an oxygen tent, hereby no oxygen pumped means death.

Turkey can save some $60 billion by not being part in F35, and invest that money on indigenous projects in order to cut the oxygen to the tent when needed.

However, Turks and Jews have no ill-take against each other as history proves; therefore no need for such talks like enemies.

 

[timmy_area51]

israel's f-35s are downgraded not upgraded

 

[500]

The whole world knows that Israel lives in an oxygen tent, hereby no oxygen pumped means death.

I dont know what u are babbling and why u talk in the name of 8 billion people. You represent no one except yourself.

Turkey can save some $60 billion by not being part in F35

100 F-35 per 100 million $ = 10 bln $. Thats very cheap for only export 5 gen fighter in the world. In addition Turkey would get 12 billion contracts.

 

[MMM-E]

You can survive without F-16 too. Just do whatever Putin and Khamenai tells u as u are doing now.

Turkish Airforce can not survive without F-16s , so what to use only F-4s until 2030 ?
without F-35s Turkish Airforce can survive until 2030 ? because of 230+ F-16s


Putin and Rouhani licks American-Israeli butt now

the US forced Iran to attack on Idlib ,, so Russia backed Assad Regime and Iran attacks on Idlib for American-Israeli backed terror corridor in N.Syria

Turkish airspace companies will lose 12 billion $ contracts.

on the other hand We will not spend $40 billion for American control useless F-35s ( price+equipments+maintenance for 30 years )


btw without Turkey F-35 project will fail
and Lockheed Martin will lose billions of dollars

 

[Islamic faith&Secularism]

I dont know what u are babbling and why u talk in the name of 8 billion people. You represent no one except yourself.


100 F-35 per 100 million $ = 10 bln $. Thats very cheap for only export 5 gen fighter in the world. In addition Turkey would get 12 billion contracts.

Your confidence comes from the same oxygen provider, like the country; denial hurts more when met the reality in the hard way, as our helps to you taught us, so good luck.

F-35 is not a must for Turkey; and with other expenses it costs over $60 billion in 30-35 years. Enjoy F-35 provided by the same provider of oxygen to your confidence and your country.

 

[500]

Turkish Airforce can not survive without F-16s , so what to use only F-4s until 2030 ?

The only time F-16 was used when it shot down Russian Su-24. But hen Erdogan scared, apologized and allowed Turkish villages in Latakia to be literally burned to he ground. Now he is doing everything Putin orders him to do. You can do it perfectly without F-16.

on the other hand We will not spend $40 billion for American control useless F-35s ( price+equipments+maintenance for 30 years )

F-35 costs less than 100 mln$ now. Thats less than 10 bln for 100. I dont know where from u get these crazy sums. Any plane needs maintenance,

btw without Turkey F-35 project will fail

No.

 

[MMM-E]

The only time F-16 was used when it shot down Russian Su-24. But hen Erdogan scared, apologized and allowed Turkish villages in Latakia to be literally burned to he ground. Now he is doing everything Putin orders him to do. You can do it perfectly without F-16.

Turkish F-16s to kick bandit Greek Airforce over the Aegean
Turkish F-16s to bomb Serbian military targets in 1999 to save muslims
Turkish F-16s to shoot down Syrian MIG-23 and MIG-17
Turkish F-16s to bomb Pkk/Ypg terrorists in Turkey,Iraq,Syria for decades
Turkish F-16s to protect Turkish EEZ in the Eastern Mediterranean


Putin and Rouhani licks American-Israeli butt now

the US forced Iran to attack on Idlib ,, so Russia backed Assad Regime and Iran attacks on Idlib for American-Israeli backed terror corridor in N.Syria against Turkey

F-35 costs less than 100 mln$ now. Thats less than 10 bln for 100. I dont know where from u get these crazy sums. Any plane needs maintenance,

1 F-35 = 3 F-16
100 F-35 = 300 F-16

Turkey will spend $40 billion for 100 F-35 in 30 years ( price+equipments+maintenance for 30 years )

and flying computer F-35s will be under American control

 

[500]

Turkish F-16s to kick bandit Greek Airforce over the Aegean
Turkish F-16s to bomb Serbian military targets in 1999 to save muslims
Turkish F-16s to shoot down Syrian MIG-23 and MIG-17
Turkish F-16s to bomb Pkk/Ypg terrorists in Turkey,Iraq,Syria for decades
Turkish F-16s to protect Turkish EEZ in the Eastern Mediterranean

1. Did not change anything. All Greek islands in Aegian are still Greek.
2. US did the job.
3. Did not stop Assad bombings even for 1 day.
4. You can bomb them with even with WW2 B-17.
5. No one is attacking it.

Putin and Rouhani licks American-Israeli butt now

Yep and Erdogan licks to Putin and Touhani.

Turkey will spend $40 billion for 100 F-35 in 30 years ( price+equipments+maintenance for 30 years )

Every plane needs maintenance.

 

[Beny Karachun]

1 F-35 = 3 F-16
100 F-35 = 300 F-16

You think that's some mathematical equation?
That's totally not how it works, 100 F-35s would decimate anything in air to air combat. Kill ratio of F-35 in exercises against 4th gen aircraft are 27:1.

 

[MMM-E]

That's totally not how it works, 100 F-35s would decimate anything in air to air combat. Kill ratio of F-35 in exercises against 4th gen aircraft are 27:1.

I am talking about cost of buying , maintenance , operating , etc

for example The US has estimated the costs of buying and operating the F-35 fleet over the 40 years could be greater than $1 trillion, a figure huge enough to worry even the coldest blooded PENTAGON budgeteer

1. Did not change anything. All Greek islands in Aegian are still Greek.
2. US did the job.
3. Did not stop Assad bombings even for 1 day.
4. You can bomb them with even with WW2 B-17.
5. No one is attacking it.

1 ... We have seen what happened in 1996

12 Turkish special forces SAT Commandos captured the Island ....and planted the Turkish Flag on the west Island and Americans said to Greeks that the TURKS captured Island and It wasn't until 4 hours later when the Greeks noticed this when a Greek helicopter took off at 5:30 am from the Greek Frigate for reconnaissance

during the mission Turkish Navy shot down Greek Helicopter with Electronic Warfare attack over the Island
and 3 Greek officers on the Helicopter died (Christodoulos Karathanasis, Panagiotis Vlahakos, and Ektoras Gialopsos) ....... and Greek admiral Hristos Limberis resigned in 1996


2 ... in Kosova War 1999 Only the US and Turkish Airforces could night strike in NATO ... 17 Turkish F-16s were equiped with Laser guided Bombs and LANTIRN night vision system to attack Serbian military targets

the UK,France,Germanny had Tornado or Mirage Jets without night vision system



3 ... its not our war .. and without Russian military support Assad is nothing

4 ... Turkish Airforce has only F-4 and F-16 to bomb terrorists

5 ... Turkish Navy and Airforce blocked Italian drillship in the eastern Mediterranean
Turkish Navy and Airforce blocked a Greek Frigate from harassing Turkish drillship in the eastern Mediterranean Turkish Airforce blocked British Fighter Jets from harassing Turkish drillship in the eastern Mediterranean

and Egypt is barking

Yep and Erdogan licks to Putin and Touhani.

every month your Netanyahu goes to Moscow to lick Putin