Turkish Engine Programs

[UkroTurk]

There was Kaplan 30 project maybe thats it or no? Who knows?

I've heard first time. But i know that FNSS is going to produce light tank for Indonesia. In Turkish forums it has been written.

 

[kartal1]

I've heard first time. But i know that FNSS is going to produce light tank for Indonesia. In Turkish forums it has been written.

I think the two projects are somehow related. I think @cabatli_53 was talking about Kaplan 30 but I am to lazy to browse trough the pages. Maybe Indonesian light tank project and Kaplan 30 are something like Pars and AV8 projects but I am not sure. Lets wait the time will show.

 

[Silahtar]

Defenceturk @AVCI

 

[UkroTurk]

AFAIK there is only one producer of diesel aircraft engines in the world. Austria-Rotax?

 

[what]

Rotax -> Canada nowadays

 

[Silahtar]

TEI TS1400 Turboshaft Engine

TEI PD170 UAV Engine

 

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TEI TS1400 Turboshaft Engine

TEI PD170 UAV Engine

Why no one takes a closeup photo of the technical sheet below...

 

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Defenceturk @AVCI

170hp @ 2300rpm , anyone understand much about engines this figure seems impressive to me..

 

[Oublious]

170hp @ 2300rpm , anyone understand much about engines this figure seems impressive to me..

Impressive, max HP at low rpm. Lets talk about a average car with 150HP, for a average car that have to use that power you have to push the gas so about 5000 rpm for max HP. You want go faster to the 150HP you need torqeu, only do you need torqeu in aviaton or more HP?

You want faster engine you need more HP. Nm is for drag race.

 

[era_shield]

Impressive, max HP at low rpm. Lets talk about a average car with 150HP, for a average car that have to use that power you have to push the gas so about 5000 rpm for max HP. You want go faster to the 150HP you need torqeu, only do you need torqeu in aviaton or more HP?

You want faster engine you need more HP. Nm is for drag race.

What's impressive is that the engine can develop that power at 20000 feet, where the air is very thin. The German engine the Anka is currently using can't develop nearly as much power at that altitude, so we should get a nice boost in maximum payload with the new engine.

 

[universal soldier]

when will see ANKA flying with TEI PD170 ?

 

[Oublious]

What's impressive is that the engine can develop that power at 20000 feet, where the air is very thin. The German engine the Anka is currently using can't develop nearly as much power at that altitude, so we should get a nice boost in maximum payload with the new engine.

What i can see on the engine is that ther is a big Turbo and back of the Turbo something big. Electrical Turbo maybe, a lot of car manufacturer want to use electrical turbo maybe thet ad that behind the turbo. As you mentioned in that altitude with that oxygene is difficult.

 

[Silahtar]

 

[Silahtar]

Defence Turkey: How are the contract negotiations proceeding within the framework of the development of the “TS1400” turboshaft engine which will power the Turkish Indigenous Helicopter? Could you inform us on the recent status of the negotiations?

For the ‘TS1400’ turboshaft engine, our contract negotiations within the scope of the ‘Turboshaft Engine Development Project’ are continuing intensely with the Sub-Systems Department of the Undersecretariat for Defense Industries (SSM). As part of this project, we are aiming to develop an indigenous and national 1400hsp engine with the type certificate which could be integrated into the Indigenous Helicopter. We are building the infrastructures for the gas turbine engine design, development and testing as well. To this end, we are simultaneously negotiating the administrative and technical issues with our Undersecretariat and forming the contract in accordance with the requirements of the existing and planned platform projects. In line with the objectives and requirements, various alternatives are emerging on the agenda; we are conducting our activities in a rapid fashion in order to find out the best solution through evaluating the pros and cons of each option. We aim to complete the contract negotiations and sign the contracts within the next few months and officially launch the project immediately after the signatures. As TEI, we have already started the activities for the indigenous engine design quite prior to the signing of the contract with the support of our executive board. As a matter of fact, the initial design cycle has already been accomplished. With the signing of the contract, the manufacturing and testing infrastructures will be completed rapidly and we will be able to move onto the prototype phase.

Defence Turkey: Regarding the development and production of the Indigenous Aircraft engine, our Minister of National Defense Mr. Fikri Işık made a brief declaration on the development of an indigenous aircraft engine by Turkey within 5 years, at the opening ceremony of the Advanced Manufacturing Technologies Facility. As TEI, what type of a preliminary preparation do you have in line with a possible decision of the Defense Industry Executive Committee within this scope?

The gas turbine engine design and development infrastructures that will be developed as part of the Indigenous Turboshaft Engine Project will be used to a large extent by the Indigenous Aircraft engine which is a gas turbine engine as well. Therefore, for a potential aircraft engine project, the technologies and the design, development and test activities of engine modules that need to be developed in addition to the turboshaft engine are being planned. Following a probable Executive Committee Decision, by making the required technological additions to the capabilities we acquired, within the scope of the Turbo-shaft Engine Development Project, we will be able to develop the first prototype of our indigenous aircraft engine within the period mentioned by our Dear Minister of National Defense.

Defence Turkey: Dear Mr. Akşit, studies were launched previously for the development of the domestic UAV engine within the scope of the Operative UAV program. Could you please inform us on the current status of the activities being conducted to this end?

In order to fulfill the short and medium term requirements of the domestic Operative UAVs, the activities for the development of an Operative UAV Engine have been continuing since 2013, within the scope of the project executed under the leadership of the Undersecretariat for Defense Industries. The development of this new engine which will completely abolish our critical foreign dependency also contains many novelties. The capabilities in many sub-categories are being developed in our country within the framework of this project. As part of this project - in which the first engine certification process of our country is being experienced – TEI, and as the certification authority the Undersecretariat for Defense Industries, achieved important acquisitions in respect to the maturing of the engine certification processes.

At times we had to transfer the resources of this project to the other UAV engine development projects that we have been conducting due to the critical priorities. Due to the technical specification changes appearing on the agenda in the first year of the project, the expansion of the project scope in time, the engine certification process being new topic to both TEI and SSM and the priorities which needed to be directed towards other UAV engine projects, we endured an undesired delay. Actually the design of the fully indigenous engine has been completed. I can give the good news that we are currently at the prototype production stage and about to initiate the engine tests. Of course, the following phases of the project will be tough as well. We aim to accomplish the qualification and certification of the engine within the next 2 years. We named the 170 hp engine that we developed as “PD170”. We rely on the fact that PD170 will be providing important technical advantages compared to the currently used modified engine and we will be offering the facility to advance the performance parameters such as the payload capacity, climbing speed, and altitude performance and endurance period of the existing indigenous UAV platforms.

Defence Turkey: Could you inform us about the other UAV engine projects you have mentioned?

With the infrastructure that we established and the capabilities we developed, we became the preferred address in the country regarding the requirements emerging within the scope of UAV engines. We are working on 4 different piston engines in various powers and with different technical specialties for different platforms. Some of them have been put to usage and some are under testing phase. As you know, besides the piston engines, we have engine development studies in mini turbojet and mini turboprop categories which may become solutions for specific requests. With the help of the capabilities we acquired within the scope of the UAV engines, we easily claim that all types of UAV engines can be developed within the facilities of the TEI through national resources for our indigenous platforms as the requests arise.

http://www.defenceturkey.com/index2.php?p=article&i=2466

 

[cabatli_53]

SSM: In addition to these, we have the Regional Aircraft and Indigenous Fighter Jet programs. Though they may not seem as noticeable as the aforementioned, as the product emerges the indigenization of the engine of our Main Battle Tank as well as the indigenization of our MILGEM vessels’ engines, establishment of Underwater Air-Independent Propulsion System, Development of Rocket Systems, Development of Long Range Air Defense System or High Altitude Air Defense Systems will be the main projects in the upcoming period which we will work upon. Maybe a Satellite Launcher System creates huge reactions as it emerges.


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