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Turkish army helicopter shot down by YPG / YPJ in Afrin canton

Its a failing battle to use conventional military hardware in Guerrilla warfare. The risks of heavy cost outweigh chances of any gain. Ask from Soviets about their experience in Afghanistan. Its repeating itself.
 
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Turkey will not look back and continue till the objectives are met. If someone thinks Tukey is in grief they are fooling themselves..
They are şehit and in a better place than we are.. For Turk soldiers there are only two medals
Gold medal: şehadet , Silver medal : Gazi
 
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Only shows the vulnerability of slow flying aircraft to MANPADs. T-129 or UH-1.. fly low and slow.. risk getting hit.
إِنَّا لِلّهِ وَإِنَّـا إِلَيْهِ رَاجِعونَ‎
 
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Russian supposed to sell S-400 SAM to Turkey. I doubt Russian will supply arms to YPG. Maybe the missile is a US Stinger Manpad.

we intercepted and freed weapons from US to ypg terrorists.. full of manpads and anti tank weapons.. there must be more than this out in the hands of those terrorists..
we should be more agressive now

Is this incompetence. I don't think any wise commander would use choppers in a mountanious area. We know PKK has MANPADs but in such a dense and mountanious area choppers can be taken down by other means to ?

what are you talking.. an apache pilot shoot by kalashnikov happens too.. if that would happen would you cry out and say incompetence in high degree.. we should go back and train ourself for 3 years and then come back?

man we will definitvly loose more ppl and vehicles.. but WE WILL FIGHT even if we loose 1000 ppl! thats our spirit we will fight and do whatever to protect our country! and unlike some nations we are proud to give our lives for that! I dont know anyone around me who is not ready to do it.. and anyone who is not is considered a traitor or scum..
 
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we intercepted and freed weapons from US to ypg terrorists.. full of manpads and anti tank weapons.. there must be more than this out in the hands of those terrorists..
we should be more agressive now



what are you talking.. an apache pilot shoot by kalashnikov happens too.. if that would happen would you cry out and say incompetence in high degree.. we should go back and train ourself for 3 years and then come back?

man we will definitvly loose more ppl and vehicles.. but WE WILL FIGHT even if we loose 1000 ppl! thats our spirit we will fight and do whatever to protect our country! and unlike some nations we are proud to give our lives for that! I dont know anyone around me who is not ready to do it.. and anyone who is not is considered a traitor or scum..

So.Here is your answer to my question you having a complete paranoia attack on here . You did this to yourself by the way no prodding by me . Let’s then address your helicopter Apache line . If that had be shot down under similar circumstances and a loss of two brave pilots . You think , no Questions would be asked by everyone too ? Finding out the facts on it being downed.

Rest of it . I have no idea how to response to it . Dying for ones country is not just a Turkish thing . Traitors scum line . I leave that to your investigatory hands in dealing with
 
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So.Here is your answer to my question you having a complete paranoia attack on here . You did this to yourself by the way no prodding by me . Let’s then address your helicopter Apache line . If that had be shot down under similar circumstances and a loss of two brave pilots . You think , no Questions would be asked by everyone too ? Finding out the facts on it being downed.

Rest of it . I have no idea how to response to it . Dying for ones country is not just a Turkish thing . Traitors scum line . I leave that to your investigatory hands in dealing with

there is no paranoia.. just facts.. we will loose ppl and vehicles.. but we will do the job.. thats what I said and what will happen..

besides that ppl will ask how to prevent a second one.. how to prevent more death.. thats naturally, but to panic and being afraid of that is not usefull, we know they have manpads and american help.. they will do whatever to make it hard..

so you mean in a mountainous area no one uses helicopters..? using helivopter there is good and bad together.. you have advanteges there and disadvantages.. and loosing one helicopter is no reason to panic and saying that they are incompetent..
 
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Rest of it . I have no idea how to response to it . Dying for ones country is not just a Turkish thing . Traitors scum line . I leave that to your investigatory hands in dealing with

Coward Arabs don't die for their country, afraid of wars they never had wars they always run away. Only Turks fight.
 
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Even during WW1, when most of the staffs were against Turkry, one-third of her male population sacrificed themselves. Fight against PKK, which is basically an amalgum of mercenary scums colllected from 40 countries under the financial and logistics support of almost all the countries in Europe and ME, has been going on since 1984 unabated. In fact, only now the fight could be taken to a new level with the introduction of indegenous weapons. New tactics and technologies may need to be introduced to tackle new challenges - but the fight must go on....
 
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how was the T129 shot down and where did the ypg find so much advance SAM and was the helicopter was flying way to low
 
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The helis were flying at a little sparrow flying height and were vulnerable to merely a gun.
 
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