Turkish Armed Forces enter Syria to evacuate ÖKK operators, Turkish Flag raised in Ashma-Syria, 1 KI

[xenon54 out]

Makes me wonder why they changed their opinions, from lets do an inside attack in order to go to war with Assad to let's get the tomb and our soldiers out of there before its to late.

The plan was actually against isis not Assad.

 

[SouI]

Makes me wonder why they changed their opinions, from lets do an inside attack in order to go to war with Assad to let's get the tomb and our soldiers out of there before its to late.

Maybe we are not as strong as we think we are..?

Thinking that an outpost 30km away from our soil might be defenseless under an attack of a terrorist organization.... is IMO just weird a lil bit...

We should have been able to protect that area very easily... I am not even gonna start with the tanks we used in the operation..

 

[madmusti]

 

[Neptune]

 

[SouI]

Well, our soldiers did their best... I guess we should not always expect the best of the bests.

They did a great job.

 

[Neptune]

Maybe we are not as strong as we think we are..?

Thinking that an outpost 30km away from our soil might be defenseless under an attack of a terrorist organization.... is IMO just weird a lil bit...

We should have been able to protect that area very easily... I am not even gonna start with the tanks we used in the operation..

No we are not. Go ahead and start I don't mind, so are the others.


1- 39 M-60A3 TTS tanks with some 50-60 Cobra IFV, ACV-300 APCs with anti-tank missiles are used.

2- E-7T AEW&C, Heron UAVs were used actively.

3- The mission was carried out jointly by both ÖKK operators and Land Forces Infantry units.

4- F-16s were on standby in the air with air-to-air and air-to-ground munitions.

5- AH-1Ws were armed and designated as QRF, which means they were ready for takeoff within 5 minutes.

6- In case something had gone wrong, they had the entire Towed and Rocket artillery along the border on their hand. Simply, you could blow up everything within that area. Be it ISIS, PKK, PYD, Assad, FSA, Peshmerga or whatever.

7- Various small task forces from the Special Forces Command were placed at the border as support teams.


Now tell me what was wrong?

Noone likes to blame the military for that but it's obvious. This army once had stormed a Chinese Palace with 40 men. This army once has beaten an enemy far superior than her size; Battle of Plevne, I/II. İnönü.

This was nothing but a tactical retreat, decided by the government that couldn't risk to lose votes at August Elections in case the TSK was engaged in a conflict in Iraq or Syria.

 

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[anatolia]

as nepture said it is all about election ..they dont want to lose vote if isis attack sulayman shah and killed Turkish soldiers,,

 

[xenon54 out]

as nepture said it is all about election ..they dont want to lose vote if isis attack sulayman shah and killed Turkish soldiers,,

Cowards...

 

[anatolia]

Cowards...

i think it is too early to say this.we will see results in 5-10years if you are right..dont forget Turkey offred many time to send united or nato soldiers to control northern syria but usa did not want it...everybod wants Turkey to involved alone..then it wont be issue of nato but ours. so we need to deal iran besar asad isil kurdish alone?

 

[xenon54 out]

i think it is too early to say this.we will see results in 5-10years if you are right..dont forget Turkey offred many time to send united or nato soldiers to control northern syria but usa did not want it...everybod wants Turkey to involved alone..then it wont be issue of nato but ours. so we need to deal iran besar asad isil kurdish alone?

Retreating from terrorists for the sake of votes is a cowardly and egoistic act, a first in our history.

 

[anatolia]

Retreating from terrorists for the sake of votes is a cowardly and egoistic act, a first in our history.

at the moment you look right.iam agreed.but i think there is some details in this move which we cannot see.

 

[SouI]

i think it is too early to say this.we will see results in 5-10years if you are right..dont forget Turkey offred many time to send united or nato soldiers to control northern syria but usa did not want it...everybod wants Turkey to involved alone..then it wont be issue of nato but ours. so we need to deal iran besar asad isil kurdish alone?

He is right.. We did not really have to 'involve' in this mess..

We could just blow the shit out of the enemy forces near the tomb, and show the rest of the world that we are no one to mess around with...

I've checked countless news on this subject and the comments posted on them, and believe me, almost all of them are saying things like:"Turkey proved how a big Turkey it is".

I am deeply ashamed by this decision of my government.. Only 30 fucking kilometers away from our soil.... And they are a bunch of poor terrorists....

We could send 2 F-16's and 3 ATAK's there, and those would be more than enough to send those poor savages to the other side of the oblivion....

 

[anatolia]

He is right.. We did not really have to 'involve' in this mess..

We could just blow the shit out of the enemy forces near the tomb, and show the rest of the world that we are no one to mess around with...

I've checked countless news on this subject and the comments posted on them, and believe me, almost all of them are saying things like:"Turkey proved how a big Turkey it is".

I am deeply ashamed by this decision of my government.. Only 30 fucking kilometers away from our soil.... And they are a bunch of poor terrorists....

We could send 2 F-16's and 3 ATAK's there, and those would be more than enough to send those poor savages to the other side of the oblivion....

bro my heart also says same things..but my brain says we should be patience.but ypg try to countrol norther syria is real threat for us.we should not let this happening.they are more dangerious than isis for us..

 

[madmusti]

1x Soldier has died during this Operation , They called it an "accident" but my Question is where are the Details ?