Turkish Ambassador: No political conditions attached with defence equipment sales to Bangladesh

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No political conditions attached with defence equipment sales to Bangladesh​

Says Turkish envoy​

Turkish Ambassador Mustafa Osman Turan. Photo: Collected
Star Digital Report
Turkey has no political conditions attached with its defence equipment sales to Bangladesh or other countries, said Turkish Ambassador Mustafa Osman Turan today, noting a long-term defence partnership with Bangladesh.
"Turkey always offers joint venture or technology transfer, which is equally applicable for Bangladesh," he said during a meeting with the members of the Diplomatic Correspondents Association, Bangladesh (DCAB) at the Turkish Embassy in the capital today.


Turkey has made big progress in the defence industry in the last 15 years against the backdrop that the advanced economies always attached some political conditions when it came to defence purchase –- something that prompted Turkey to be self-sufficient, the ambassador said.
"Turkey always provides maintenance, spare parts and there are no political conditions attached…we see this as a long term partnership, we see this as a reflection of our deep level of political relationship as well".
He said Turkey had delivered Multi-Launcher Rockets to Bangladesh and that the country is keen to have joint ventures in shipbuilding.
Asked what specific defence equipment Turkey is selling to Bangladesh, the Turkish diplomat said, "There are several conversations between various Turkish companies and Bangladesh counterparts. So I am unable to give any specific details".
The Turkish chief of naval force will visit Bangladesh at the end of this month, he added. Turkish President Erdogan is also likely to visit Bangladesh soon, he said but did not specify the date.
Following the execution of Jamaat leader Motiur Rahman Nizami in May 2016, Turkey withdrew its ambassador to Bangladesh, bringing the bilateral relations under severe strain.
The strained relations began healing when Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina wrote to Turkish President Erdogan, condemning the coup attempt to overthrow him in July 2016. Consequently, Ankara sent a new ambassador to Dhaka later that year.
Asked about Turkey's position on the prosecution of Jamaat-e-Islami leaders, the ambassador said, "There was a misinterpretation and it was blown out of the context".
Mustafa said the trade between the two countries was $850 million two years ago but now it has risen to $1.2 billion and both the countries set a target of taking the trade volume to $3 billion.

'No political conditions attached with defence equipment sales to Bangladesh'

Turkey has no political conditions attached with its defence equipment sales to Bangladesh or other countries, said Turkish Ambassador Mustafa Osman Turan today, noting a long-term defence partnership with Bangladesh.

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@dBSPL

I have a question.
Why doesn't Bangladesh join the ECO (Economic Cooperation Organisation), SAARC is obviously a dead horse. To the east, I don't know what the situation is, if Bangladesh wants to join ASEAN or if they would be willing to accept, ASEAN looks to be a done deal, they don't really wish to disturb the boat by accepting other nations outside the region.

The ECO already has a reach into South Asia, because Pakistan is a founding member, and I think if Bangladesh made an effort, it would be welcomed with open arms.

Turkey, Pakistan and Iran are the founding members,
Afghanistan, Azerbaijan, Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan, Turkmenistan, Tajikistan and Kirgizstan are the other members.
That's over 500 million market, expected to reach 800 million, with Bangladesh, it would be one of the largest in the world.

I would love to hear some views, thank you.

 

[Apollon]

Ok, please offer us "real friendship" with advanced Greek weapons...oh wait.

Friend, Bangladesh has extreme flooding problems. You dont need weapons. Turkey should build schools, dams and infrastructure. Things that profit its people.

Greece does that:

Greece was one of the first countries to recognice Bangladesh. We have good relations

Bangladesh–Greece relations - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[peagle]

true , this chart supports the argument
the author who conducted the survey is a serving BN officer (not some unreliable defence blogger for those who doubt)
View attachment 813349
surpised to see the Japanese higher in this list though

I would have loved to see Pakistan on that list, even if the probability was low, but just to explore the possibilities. Perhaps in the future, so make a suggestion if you can.

 

[F-6 enthusiast]

Do you have the full paper? I want to know why China scores so low.

source: (dated 2019)

View of 'ONE STOP' HARDWARE ACQUISITION TREND IN BANGLADESH NAVY: CHALLENGES AND WAYS FORWARD

ndcjournal.ndc.gov.bd

honest criticism by BN on the limitation and shortcomings



National defence College-e journal
the latest papers are

LAND-ROBOT TECHNOLOGIES: THE INTEGRATION OF COGNITIVE SYSTEMS IN MILITARY AND DEFENSE

INTEGRATING MACHINE LEARNING IN MILITARY INTELLIGENCE PROCESS: STUDY OF FUTURISTIC APPROACHES TOWARDS HUMAN-MACHINE COLLABORATION

The two branches publish papers and are well aware of future challenges and new technologies,
meanwhile at BAF HQ:

 

[peagle]

Its not off topic. Turkey is at conflict with evry neighbor, but tries to shudder that with fake friendship offers to countries several thousand km away. Thats not sustainable.

That is so clearly off topic.

Most countries around the world have one dispute or another with their neighbours, big or small. But, if you bring those disputes into every single discussion, that would be ridiculous, and childish.

You are being extremely unfair.

 

[Destranator]

Friend, Bangladesh has extreme flooding problems. You dont need weapons. Turkey should build schools, dams and infrastructure. Things that profit its people.

Greece does that:

Greece was one of the first countries to recognice Bangladesh. We have good relations

Bangladesh–Greece relations - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

By that logic, Greece should disband its military given its fiscal troubles.

Bd's relations with Turkey and Greece do not come at the expense of each other. What Turkey sells to BD should not bother Geeece.

I have a question.
Why doesn't Bangladesh join the ECO (Economic Cooperation Organisation), SAARC is obviously a dead horse. To the east, I don't know what the situation is, if Bangladesh wants to join ASEAN or if they would be willing to accept, ASEAN looks to be a done deal, they don't really wish to disturb the boat by accepting other nations outside the region.

The ECO already has a reach into South Asia, because Pakistan is a founding member, and I think if Bangladesh made an effort, it would be welcomed with open arms.

Turkey, Pakistan and Iran are the founding members,
Afghanistan, Azerbaijan, Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan, Turkmenistan, Tajikistan and Kirgizstan are the other members.
That's over 500 million market, expected to reach 800 million, with Bangladesh, it would be one of the largest in the world.

I would love to hear some views, thank you.

To be honest bro, this is the first time I have heard of ECO. Bd should seriously look into it if we have not already.

 

[X-ray Papa]

Friend, Bangladesh has extreme flooding problems. You dont need weapons. Turkey should build schools, dams and infrastructure. Things that profit its people.

Greece does that:

Greece was one of the first countries to recognice Bangladesh. We have good relations

Bangladesh–Greece relations - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

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You aint sparta anymore bud, nobody gives a shit about your opinion.

 

[Maula Jatt]

By that logic, Greece should disband its military given its fiscal troubles.

Bd's relations with Turkey and Greece do not come at the expense of each other. What Turkey sells to BD should not bother Geeece.


To be honest bro, this is the first time I have heard of ECO. Bd should seriously look into it if we have not already.

ECO is more of a Centeral Asia organization where three countries Pak, turkey, Iran compete to get the centeral Asian, market, influence, trade etc

 

[Bilal9]

Below is a partial list of weapons in a warship. So, you want our Turkish brothers to teach us to build ALSO these weapons that we will manufacture without putting in much efforts. Not bad. But how it is possible, I am not sure.

Did something as bright as your suggestion happen in our Golden Bangladesh in the past?

• Mk 38 Mod 3 Machine Gun System (MGS) Setting the standard for shipboard defense against small, fast, and agile surface threats. ...
• Bofors 40 Mk4 Naval Gun. ...
• 57mm Naval Gun System. ...
• FUZE 3P Ammunition. ...
• Electromagnetic (EM) Railgun. ...
• Hypervelocity Projectile. ...
• Mk 45 Mod 4 Naval Gun System.

@bluesky bhai, let me clarify this. I did not mean ToT for EVERY weapon system. That is an impossibility and also impractical.

ToT is only sought (and consequently offered by vendor, or not) when there is a larger dollar value price tag and/or significant amounts of any defense item bought (where money can be saved by assembling/manufacturing items locally as substitute).

It is neither feasible, nor practical to manufacture everything in Bangladesh, if that item,
a) is too specialized or, OTOH
b) only consisting of a few items that are needed and bought.

Bangladesh got ToT from China to manufacture small arms and ManPads only because of large quantity needed. Sometimes the item is so complicated and so much sunk investment for machinery and technology absorption needed, it is not practical (cost-effective or worth the effort) to manufacture locally, rather than import.

It is almost always about money, in most situations (as it should be).

This is true for almost every item imported, not just defence ones.

What I meant was defence shipbuilding ToT (designs, weapons integration practices expertise), which Turkey has more experience in. Their designs are almost every bit as modern and good as those made by other NATO countries and their shipyards (and shipbuilding products) are certainly world class.

On top of it - they are a friendly D-8 Muslim country.

So it makes all kinds of sense.

 

[peagle]

To be honest bro, this is the first time I have heard of ECO. Bd should seriously look into it if we have not already.

Sorry I did not get the notification for this message.

It was founded in 1985 by Turkey, Iran and Pakistan with the express purpose of engaging each other in the economic and culture spheres. But for various reasons it has been held up and hasn't really taken off as yet. In the 1980s, the Soviet war in Afghanistan was an issue.

After the breakup of the Soviet Union, the other member states joined in 1992, but the Russian influence in Central Asia, and the continuous instability in Afghanistan had stopped any meaningful cooperation. Then came the war on terror and the sanctions on Iran, so it has not taken off as yet for various reasons. Although they have signed numerous agreements along the way to strengthen the institutional framework.

Last year they started a train freight service from Islamabad to Istanbul via Tehran, and I have been hearing about the ECO more often lately, so looks like effort is being made to turn it into an effect organisation.

Turkey is in a much stronger position to help take this organisation forward, along with Pakistan and Iran, and backed by massive Chinese investment I think the ECO will be attracting more attention in the coming years.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_Cooperation_Organization#Membership

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Istanbul–Tehran–lslamabad_railway

ECO is more of a Centeral Asia organization where three countries Pak, turkey, Iran compete to get the centeral Asian, market, influence, trade etc

This is a rather silly interpretation, do you even know anything about this topic?
Please stop giving out blanket statements to make yourself feel important. Thank you.

 

[Maula Jatt]

Sorry I did not get the notification for this message.

It was founded in 1985 by Turkey, Iran and Pakistan with the express purpose of engaging each other in the economic and culture spheres. But for various reasons it has been held up and hasn't really taken off as yet. In the 1980s, the Soviet war in Afghanistan was an issue.

After the breakup of the Soviet Union, the other member states joined in 1992, but the Russian influence in Central Asia, and the continuous instability in Afghanistan had stopped any meaningful cooperation. Then came the war on terror and the sanctions on Iran, so it has not taken off as yet for various reasons. Although they have signed numerous agreements along the way to strengthen the institutional framework.

Last year they started a train freight service from Islamabad to Istanbul via Tehran, and I have been hearing about the ECO more often lately, so looks like effort is being made to turn it into an effect organisation.

Turkey is in a much stronger position to help take this organisation forward, along with Pakistan and Iran, and backed by massive Chinese investment I think the ECO will be attracting more attention in the coming years.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_Cooperation_Organization#Membership

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Istanbul–Tehran–lslamabad_railway


This is a rather silly interpretation, do you even know anything about this topic?
Please stop giving out blanket statements to make yourself feel important. Thank you.

Wikipedia
The Economic Cooperation Organization or ECO is an Asian political and economic intergovernmental organization which was founded in 1985 in Tehran by the leaders of Iran, Pakistan, and Turkey. It provides a platform to discuss ways to improve development and promote trade and investment opportunities. The ECO is an ad hoc organisation under the United Nations Charter.[4] The objective is to establish a single market for goods and services, much like the European Union.[5] Following the dissolution of the Soviet Union, the ECO expanded to include Afghanistan, Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan in 1992.

The current framework of the ECO expresses itself mostly in the form of bilateral agreements and arbitration mechanisms between individual and fully sovereign member states. This makes the ECO similar to ASEAN in that it is an organisation that has its own offices and bureaucracy for implementation of trade amongst sovereign member states. This consists of the historically integrated agricultural region of the Ferghana Valley which allows for trade and common agricultural production in the border region between Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan and Uzbekistan. Pakistan has free trade agreements with both Afghanistan and Iran which are in the process of implementation.

In 2017, a free trade agreement between Turkey and Iran was proposed to be signed in the future,[6] in addition to a proposed Pakistan-Turkey Free Trade Agreement.[7] The Afghanistan-Pakistan Transit Trade Agreement is designed to facilitate trade for goods and services for Central Asia via both Afghanistan and Pakistan.[8] This is in addition to the Ashgabat agreement which is a multi-modal transport agreement between the Central Asian states.[9] Further cooperation amongst members is planned in the form of the Iran–Pakistan gas pipeline, as well as a Turkmenistan–Afghanistan–Pakistan pipeline. Current pipelines include the Tabriz–Ankara pipeline in addition to the planned Persian Pipeline. This is in addition to the transportation of oil and gas from Central Asian states such as Kazakhstan and Turkmenistan to supply the industrialisation underway in Iran, Pakistan, Turkey and beyond. Pakistan plans to diversify its source of oil and gas supplies towards the Central Asian states including petroleum import contracts with Azerbaijan.[10]

Not to mention this also focused on connecting Pak, turkey, Iran because of Thier geography
map

at point 6.50
I think its important for you to not act like a edgy old man and throw tantrums every time anyone counter your make belief ideas
Your suggestions are idiotic to say the least- its like saying add Jordon or Egypt in mix? why not? next add Zimbabwe to EU or Brazil to OIC
While we are at it
suggest adding Norway to Arab league

PC who tf suggests adding members on the other side of the map in an organization focused on former asian Soviet republics and making it a block? and than rants about it and sticks to it like a moron lol

 

[peagle]

Wikipedia
The Economic Cooperation Organization or ECO is an Asian political and economic intergovernmental organization which was founded in 1985 in Tehran by the leaders of Iran, Pakistan, and Turkey. It provides a platform to discuss ways to improve development and promote trade and investment opportunities. The ECO is an ad hoc organisation under the United Nations Charter.[4] The objective is to establish a single market for goods and services, much like the European Union.[5] Following the dissolution of the Soviet Union, the ECO expanded to include Afghanistan, Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan in 1992.

The current framework of the ECO expresses itself mostly in the form of bilateral agreements and arbitration mechanisms between individual and fully sovereign member states. This makes the ECO similar to ASEAN in that it is an organisation that has its own offices and bureaucracy for implementation of trade amongst sovereign member states. This consists of the historically integrated agricultural region of the Ferghana Valley which allows for trade and common agricultural production in the border region between Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan and Uzbekistan. Pakistan has free trade agreements with both Afghanistan and Iran which are in the process of implementation.

In 2017, a free trade agreement between Turkey and Iran was proposed to be signed in the future,[6] in addition to a proposed Pakistan-Turkey Free Trade Agreement.[7] The Afghanistan-Pakistan Transit Trade Agreement is designed to facilitate trade for goods and services for Central Asia via both Afghanistan and Pakistan.[8] This is in addition to the Ashgabat agreement which is a multi-modal transport agreement between the Central Asian states.[9] Further cooperation amongst members is planned in the form of the Iran–Pakistan gas pipeline, as well as a Turkmenistan–Afghanistan–Pakistan pipeline. Current pipelines include the Tabriz–Ankara pipeline in addition to the planned Persian Pipeline. This is in addition to the transportation of oil and gas from Central Asian states such as Kazakhstan and Turkmenistan to supply the industrialisation underway in Iran, Pakistan, Turkey and beyond. Pakistan plans to diversify its source of oil and gas supplies towards the Central Asian states including petroleum import contracts with Azerbaijan.[10]

Not to mention this also focused on connecting Pak, turkey, Iran because of Thier geography
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at point 6.50
I think its important for you to not act like a edgy old man and throw tantrums every time anyone counter your make belief ideas
Your suggestions are idiotic to say the least- its like saying add Jordon or Egypt in mix? why not? next add Zimbabwe to EU or Brazil to OIC
While we are at it
suggest adding Norway to Arab league

PC who tf suggests adding members on the other side of the map in an organization focused on former asian Soviet republics and making it a block? and than rants about it and sticks to it like a moron lol

Typical of your usual rubbish, all you do is plaster your opinions here 24/7, most of which have no basis in reality, just hot air.

How is it being edgy? you gave a silly comment that is completely false to sound important as you usually do, I gave you a correction. If you cannot accept replies then it is better not to be in a pubic forum.
What are you doing here?
You contributed about a topic I posted, I am within my rights to counteract your reply, especially if it is false. You are the one who's edgy, with a false sense of self importance.


You just posted material from the link I provided, how does that contribute anything? And a stupid video from a YouTube channel without saying why it's relevant, that doesn't contribute anything either. Create an opinion, then provide a justification, you fool? try it, that's what grown ups do.
If you have an opinion then justify yourself, don't assume anything that comes out of your mind is the only truth, justify yourself and stop acting arrogant.


There you go with your stupid suggestion that only make sense in your head, how does brazil have anything to do with this? I mean get a brain, if you are going to make an argument, at least try and sound coherent, you won't come across as stupid.

ECO is a block, it consists of Islamic countries, the purpose being to enhance cooperation between like minded countries, All the neighbouring countries are already part of other blocks, on one side you have the EU, on the other you have the Arab league, it makes sense for Bangladesh to explore this option, why are you getting touchy and kicking off because I suggested that Bangladesh should explore this option. why has it kicked you off?????
Sharing suggestions is the purpose of this forum, why are you bothered?
Why are you so full of hate?

If you are so against Bangladesh then why are you even here in their section, go spread your hate somewhere else, like you usually do with your two bit comments that have no meaning, like a spoilt brat.

It's a stupid thing to say that the ECO is based on the former Soviet republic's, it's idiotic and shows your ignorance.
Did you even read anything?
When it was founded, the former Soviet republic did not exist, you moronic imbecile.
It was founded in 1985, they joined in 1992. You cannot base an organisation on something that does not exist, that's stupid.

This is what I mean by your moronic arrogance, you do not know anything and yet you go around stamping your arrogant ego filled comments everywhere.
Do what you want, but don't be so arrogant that if someone disagrees with you they are not going to reply, grow up and learn to behave like a grown up and not a spoilt brat.

 

[Maula Jatt]

Typical of your usual rubbish, all you do is plaster your opinions here 24/7, most of which have no basis in reality, just hot air.

How is it being edgy? you gave a silly comment that is completely false to sound important as you usually do, I gave you a correction. If you cannot accept replies then it is better not to be in a pubic forum.
What are you doing here?
You contributed about a topic I posted, I am within my rights to counteract your reply, especially if it is false. You are the one who's edgy, with a false sense of self importance.


You just posted material from the link I provided, how does that contribute anything? And a stupid video from a YouTube channel without saying why it's relevant, that doesn't contribute anything either. Create an opinion, then provide a justification, you fool? try it, that's what grown ups do.
If you have an opinion then justify yourself, don't assume anything that comes out of your mind is the only truth, justify yourself and stop acting arrogant.


There you go with your stupid suggestion that only make sense in your head, how does brazil have anything to do with this? I mean get a brain, if you are going to make an argument, at least try and sound coherent, you won't come across as stupid.

ECO is a block, it consists of Islamic countries, the purpose being to enhance cooperation between like minded countries, All the neighbouring countries are already part of other blocks, on one side you have the EU, on the other you have the Arab league, it makes sense for Bangladesh to explore this option, why are you getting touchy and kicking off because I suggested that Bangladesh should explore this option. why has it kicked you off?????
Sharing suggestions is the purpose of this forum, why are you bothered?
Why are you so full of hate?

If you are so against Bangladesh then why are you even here in their section, go spread your hate somewhere else, like you usually do with your two bit comments that have no meaning, like a spoilt brat.

It's a stupid thing to say that the ECO is based on the former Soviet republic's, it's idiotic and shows your ignorance.
Did you even read anything?
When it was founded, the former Soviet republic did not exist, you moronic imbecile.
It was founded in 1985, they joined in 1992. You cannot base an organisation on something that does not exist, that's stupid.

This is what I mean by your moronic arrogance, you do not know anything and yet you go around stamping your arrogant ego filled comments everywhere.
Do what you want, but don't be so arrogant that if someone disagrees with you they are not going to reply, grow up and learn to behave like a grown up and not a spoilt brat.

lol all this for literally nothing, even a blind man can see the purpose of ECO
look at its history, its formation and especially the damn map

now you are saying for "Islamic" countries or some BS like that which is stupid
yeah they happen to be majority Muslim but this is not its purpose- or if it was they should rename it to OIC 2.0? get the arabs in there too

its history where at first it was for turk, pak, Iran than they added CAR, Azerbaijan
Its geographical connection in nature, hell China due to Xinjiang makes more sense in ECO than any other country in the world - now you started making it some ummah chummah crap which wasn't even its purpose?

Now calling me arrogant when you jumped in like a literal chimp calling me names over a one-liner cause it genuinely didn't deserve more,
looking at the map, its reason for existence only an idiot would suggest adding Bangladesh to the mix
You cant keep adding nations into the mix without some basics to the group, there's a reason why ASEAN doesn't include Bangladesh
Because of Geography!

hers My opinion = you are stupid for suggesting adding Bangladesh into ECO because it makes no sense from any perspective, you are doing it on internet because of too much free time and mental issues, countering it you got butt hurt and are now ranting like a mad man

If you want to keep ranting on the internet, I don't particularly care go ahead, I think my point is clear and anyone with a functioning brain can see through it

 

[peagle]

What the heck did you just write you silly fool, you sound like a 14 year old going through puberty. Whinging like a spoilt brat.

lol all this for literally nothing, even a blind man can see the purpose of ECO
look at its history, its formation and especially the damn map

This is a thread discussing relations between Turkiye and Bangladesh, the topic I raised is extremely relevant, and on point, Pakistan is a founding member and located in South Asia, so is Bangladesh, hence the suggestion. It's rather arrogant of you to decide what's right for Bangladesh. if you had asked me to clarify, I would have told you, But you had to throw in your stupidities without basis, just to feel clever, now you are getting your panties in a twist, because your lies were pointed out.

now you are saying for "Islamic" countries or some BS like that which is stupid
yeah they happen to be majority Muslim but this is not its purpose- or if it was they should rename it to OIC 2.0? get the arabs in there too

You stupid little fool, what do you know about anything, go build a brain before you start ranting from your ignorant little mind. OIC 2, which stupid idiot would name an organisation after another one, EU 2, UN 2, ASEAN 2, This is real life, not a Hollywood movie.
Name everything 2 then 3 then 4, Only a fool would make such a suggestion. Don't you know you have to try and sound a bit intelligent otherwise the world will take you for a fool, congratulations you’ve succeeded.

Europe has multiple economic blocks, each separate from each other but working together, just because you have other blocks, you don’t go naming them part 2 and part 3 , you idiot, that would be stupid, think before you say something.

its history where at first it was for turk, pak, Iran than they added CAR, Azerbaijan
Its geographical connection in nature, hell China due to Xinjiang makes more sense in ECO than any other country in the world - now you started making it some ummah chummah crap which wasn't even its purpose?

When did I mentioned Ummah, you fool, at least have the decency not to lie about me, to me, that's just idiotic, and stupid. Understand the difference between ummah, and Muslim countries working together because of shared heritage, you idiot, that's not ummah.
If that's the only thing your mind can understand then that's your problem, not mine. Countries work together because of shared interests and shared heritage. That interest and heritage can come in different forms.

Why do you think EU has not accepted Turkiye yet, they have accepted other crappy countries in Europe, Turkiye is in a much better position, but becuase of it's a Muslim country they refuse to accept Turkiye and the Turks made a lot of effort to fulfil EU requirements.

ECO could also have accepted few other countries, such a Bulgaria and Romania, they have small Muslim populations and geographically close to Turkiye, they were not invited and they did not want to be invited, because there is no shared heritage, understand the context before commenting you stupid little child, don't assume everything that comes out of your mind is the only thing that matters, there is real life outside of your arrogant little head.

China would be welcome, if it wanted to join, but this is about Turkiye and Bangladesh you idiot, and ECO is a potential link because it has two members form the same region as Bangladesh. So no it is not about ummah you fool, and I never claimed such a thing. It is about shared heritage and shared values. If your brain doesn't understand the context, that's your problem, and don't claim something I never said.

Now calling me arrogant when you jumped in like a literal chimp calling me names over a one-liner cause it genuinely didn't deserve more,
looking at the map, its reason for existence only an idiot would suggest adding Bangladesh to the mix
You cant keep adding nations into the mix without some basics to the group, there's a reason why ASEAN doesn't include Bangladesh
Because of Geography!

But you are arrogant, son, behaving like a spoilt little brat, and jumping like a baboon because someone gave you a reply you didn't like. You started the name calling, not me.
Read my first message and your reply. In my message I said PLEASE and THANK YOU. I was direct but I tried to be polite, you started a whole list, I didn't mind, have I complained to you?
I took it, but gave a suitable reply, that's what grown ups do, now you want to cry about it boo bloody hoo, grow the heck up. If you don't like it, then don't start it.


Go back and read my first reply, then your reply, then tell me who started this. I have pressed "like" on many of your posts, I have not agreed with all, but I thought he is an energetic Pakistani, just encourage him with a like and get his like count up, I don't need to tell you why, but that's my way of doing things, the only relationship we have is as Pakistanis, so its my choice if I wish to encourage someone just for that reason. But you cannot come shitting on my post when I am trying to bring harmony between people I care about, that's Bangladesh and Turkiye, and Pakistan's relationship with both of them.

The biggest trade block in the history of the world that was killed by Trump, becuase of his stupid policies, covered nations across the pacific ocean, on different continents, that is a vast territory. There are other examples. Bangladesh is not a world away, much of it's trade passes our direction much of our trade to east passes Bangladesh. There are multiple levels of benefits for Bangladesh and for ECO countries. If you really want me to highlight the potential benefits then I can do so in a separate post, but just because I think it does not mean it is the only way, they are idea, for discussion. If anyone disagrees present alternative ideas, but if you disagree don't be dismissive in an arrogant manner, that will attract a suitable reaction.

ASEAN doesn't included Bangladesh not because of geography, it is because of heritage. Bangladesh has a border with ASEAN countries, it is next door. But because Bangladesh has a different cultural heritage, at this stage they would prefer not to include other countries, like EU isn't accepting Turkiye, in future it might change, but geography isn't an issues. The issues are simple, shared heritage and shared values, these things do matter.



The rest of your comments, I am going to let pass, it is your choice what kind of discussion you wish to have. For a constructive discussion, I'll contribute if I think I can. But for a dismissive, arrogant discussion that deliberately tries to spread falsehoods, then the response will be different. The choice is yours.