If Nick Gutteridge ever reads this, I'm going to present just a few points. To the readers, feel free to tweet him to my post.
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While I do not side with any faction and have issues with both, what angers me is this clearly click bait article, that uses multiple fallacies to try and spread a conspiracy theory, with no basis in fact.
Don't take what I say as support for one side, but rather an angry rant against the clearly incompetent "journalist".
"Brussels commissioner Johannes Hahn revealed that the country’s autocratic leader had drawn up an arrest list of 3,000 judges before soldiers took to the streets in an apparent attempt to claim power."
Because this commissioner suddenly got their hands on what would probably be classified documents, kept under lock and key, right? What a fucking joke. At least question where they may have gotten this information from, instead of blindly believing everything they say.
Also, a lot of those "arrests" are being mixed in with simple dismissals. Either way, your argument is shit.
"Elsewhere, an experienced army colonel branded the feeble military effort to take over, which saw soldiers arrested in the streets by unarmed civilians, as totally unbelievable and a “clearly staged dram"
Who? Unless you got a name, this shouldn't even be mentioned. An experienced journalist told me that this article has been written by a mentally challenged donkey, I have no reason to question this experienced journalist, because unnamed sources are soooo reliable.
Though, ff you're talking about that Indian colonel you mention, I'll get to that later. Also, just fucking name him here, but you wouldn't because the click bait nature of this article is buzzfeed level.
"A number of discrepancies have emerged in the subsequent days which shed doubt on the legitimacy of the situation, including the revelation that two ‘rebel’ F-16 fighter jets had President Erdogan’s private jet but inexplicably chose not to open fire. "
Because it would be a stupid idea. Even Sisi didn't kill Morsi, because he knew that there would be international backlash. What you call "discrepancies" are you just trying to grasp at straws, you fuckin moron.
That's if those reports are even true. Right now, they're nothing more than hearsay.
Even if they're true, there are a number of rational explanations as to why they didn't shoot; One I have already mentioned, and another could simply be a fear of shooting down a plane that could very well hold civilian passengers, which is a good way to turn the population against you.
"The intervention of the commissioner, an experienced Austrian politician and senior Brussels operator, is the most significant sign yet that world leaders believe the whole incident may have been stage-managed.
NATO countries including the US, Britain and Germany showed a noticeable lack of concern as last Friday’s bloody events unfolded, with none offering military support to the Erdogan regime and most slow to express even political concern.
A number of discrepancies have emerged in the subsequent days which shed doubt on the legitimacy of the situation, including the revelation that two ‘rebel’ F-16 fighter jets had President Erdogan’s private jet but inexplicably chose not to open fire. "
Really? Fuckin really? That's the best you have? Because they didn't react right away, they must have somehow known that this was staged?
OOOOOORRRR, a more rational explanation is that they were using a wait and see approach, while preparing statements, plus actions for whatever eventualities that presented themselves. The same fucking thing happened in Egypt, and you call yourself a journalist? You should be fired for doing a piss poor job. The same thing happened in Pakistan, during Imran Khan's Dharna, whom many accused the army and the UK of being behind.
"Some of the troops have said they were told they were taking part in a training exercise
And speaking to reporters today Mr Hahn said: "It looks at least as if something has been prepared. The lists are available, which indicates it was prepared and to be used at a certain stage."
Another reason why they may have surrendered. The chief of military was kidnapped, because he was seen as being too close to Erdogan. Middle level and a few higher ups were probably involved, but there seems to be little proof that at least most of the soldiers were told that this was some sort of exercise; How do I know? Because they fucking shot at civilians, using live ammunition, plus got into fire fights with the police, after detaining dozens and bombing a police station. Tell me, you fucking dumb shit, is that how a "staged" coup would work? Even you can figure out that no, that is not how this would work. A soldier knows the difference between exercises and an actual operations. You don't shoot at civilians (or anyone), using live ammunition, during an exercise. By the way, live ammunition and blanks or plastic rounds all look different.
“I’m very concerned. It is exactly what we feared."
The intervention of the commissioner, an experienced Austrian politician and senior Brussels operator, is the most significant sign yet that world leaders believe the whole incident may have been stage-managed."
No it isn't, that's a logical fallacy. Stop using post-hoc arguments.
"The question of why any military operation would attempt to take power without trying to secure the capture of the authoritarian leader, who was on holiday in a hotel at the time, has also raised suspicions."
Because it was probably committed by a bunch incompetents. There is a reason why the accused have mainly been middle level officers, with only a few generals involved. The army was divided on the coup, which is why it failed.
I'll give you a good example; Pakistan is a nation that has experienced multiple coups, much like Turkey. The reason why Pakistani coups almost always swiftly and cleanly succeed is because the army was completely united. Even those within the army that were against coups, supported them, because they believed in unity. It doesn't take a genius to figure this out.
"Colonel Ajit Bhinder, the Indian army’s Director of Defence and Research and Development, said it was “clearly staged drama”.
He tweeted: “Turkey coup - images show zero tactical deployment, tanks parked on bridge and troops surrendering voluntarily to civilians - clearly staged drama.
“Images of the coup tell it all. A big political trick played by Erdogan, a hard core Islamist and enemy of secularism - to consolidate power.” "
Except it has all the hallmarks of a classic coup. Block off traffic to major population centers, take control of media centers, detainment of players seen too close to the government, blocking off access to any form of communication (they blocked almost all major websites, and failed at a complete internet shut down, due to the turning of the tide).
The troops surrendered when it became clear that the coup failed, and they were surrounded.
Need I remind everyone that every single military analyst was, during the coup attemp, talking about how quickly and efficiently the coup was moving along, and just how well organized and tactical it was. As such, the good colonel can keep his stupid opinion to himself, because he clearly wasn't following the chain of events that were unfolding.
“Images of the coup tell it all. A big political trick played by Erdogan, a hard core Islamist and enemy of secularism - to consolidate power.”
Erdogan is NOT an Islamist. He's power hungry, but he is NOT an Islamist. Again, I must remind everyone that he told the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt to adopt secularism. There is a reason why he was once allied with Gulen.
"Those fears were echoed by moderate cleric Gulen, who used to be an ally of Erdogan before fleeing to the US after attempting to expose corruption in his government.
The peaceful religious leader, who lives at a religious retreat in Pennsylvania, said: “I don’t believe that the world believes the accusations made by President Erdo?an.
“There is a possibility that it could be a staged coup and it could be meant for further accusations against me and my followers.”
Gulen is the founder of a modernising branch of Islam which promotes the use of evidence-based science, inter-faith dialogue and multi-party democracy."
Despite living in exile, Gulen is the second most powerful man in Turkey, with millions of followers. His rivalry with Erdogan is well known by everyone, so to simply say that he's "a peaceful religious leader" is dismissing this very fact. There is good reason to believe that Gulen may have been behind this attempt, as many of the officers captured are known to be his followers.
Nick Gutteridge, you've failed as a journalist. If you have any form of decency, you'll issue a retraction and actually present a proper article with facts, instead of speculation.
...who am I kidding, sensationalism and emotions make money, not facts.
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