Turkey's feared ANKA strike drones

[-SINAN-]

Exactly the source said it was done by Bayraktar drone. I have no idea how @CAN_TR came to this conclusion that it was all done by ANKA.

You can't say which drone made strike from the videos. However, Selçuk Bayraktar said %80 strikes in this Idlip operation done by TB-2.

 

[Muhammed45]

You can't say which drone made strike from the videos. However, Selçuk Bayraktar said %80 strikes in this Idlip operation done by TB-2.

Am almost sure that TB-2 attacked Pantsirs. ANKA was detected by Syrian air defense forces, and got countered by them. But the TB-2 still remains hard to detect for radars on the ground with the size of Pantsir radar.

This is a huge lesson for us too.

 

[-SINAN-]

Am almost sure that TB-2 attacked Pantsirs. ANKA was detected by Syrian air defense forces, and got countered by them. But the TB-2 still remains hard to detect for radars on the ground with the size of Pantsir radar.

This is a huge lesson for us too.

TB-2 is not a stealth aircraft be it design/materials used on it/ or the propeller which greatly increases it's RCS.

What we exactly know from İsmail Demir's statements is "We opened a corridor for UAVs, so hunter(pantsir) became a prey", some serious EW conducted in order to blind Pantsir's radar.

Also, let's not forget that ANKA-S conducted %20 of the strikes.

 

[kartal1]

Am almost sure that TB-2 attacked Pantsirs. ANKA was detected by Syrian air defense forces, and got countered by them. But the TB-2 still remains hard to detect for radars on the ground with the size of Pantsir radar.

This is a huge lesson for us too.

The usage of ANKA S doesn't have any relation to the radar signature of it. All of the operations were conducted before EW attack system intervenes. Because the enemy also had EW systems TB2 had difficulties and in multiple occasions it was jammed. ANKA S entered the fight then as a more jamming proof system with its SATCOM. There is no way to confirm which system exactly hit more but I can assure you that ANKA S was extensively used in operation Spring Shield.

 

[Muhammed45]

What we exactly know from İsmail Demir's statements is "We opened a corridor for UAVs, so hunter(pantsir) became a prey", some serious EW conducted in order to blind Pantsir's radar.

In Syria or Libya?

 

[-SINAN-]

In Syria or Libya?

Syria, Idlib...We have minimal info regarding what's happening in Libya apart from the strike footages.

Because the enemy also had EW systems TB2 had difficulties and in multiple occasions it was jammed. ANKA S entered the fight then as a more jamming proof system with its SATCOM. There is no way to confirm which system exactly hit more but I can assure you that ANKA S was extensively used in operation Spring Shield.

It's narrative of some defense expert, not official narrative. I kind of find it hard to believe that TB-2s got jammed although it conducted %80 of the strikes. Idlip pocket is a small area, if it a jam happens i believe it would jam all over Idlib, like the way our jammers works.

 

[MastanKhan]

A drone is never supposed to beat air defence systems unless designed (stealth etc) for this specific task. Its survivability against a competent air defence or an air force is almost negligible. Still, the way Turkey decimated Syria armour and equipment, including ground air defences, through precision strikes and comparatively negligible losses, their drones have gone beyond what anyone thought possible.

Hi,

With 131 posts and a TT analyst---.

Absolutely worthless post with no merit---.

There is no such thing as NEVER in combat---.

Competent air defense is a fixed defense and that also gets destroyed---.

The drones have done what they were supposed to do in a limited tactical arena against an enemy which has a haphazard array of weapons with no systematic control and operation---.

Once the inroads were made---more successes followed thru---.

 

[waz]

Operational history
The Anka performed its first mission flight on 5 February 2016 in Turkey's eastern province of Elazig performing a four-hour exploration and observation flight.[35]

In the course of Turkey′s Operation Olive Branch in 2018, the UAV for the first time used the Smart Micro Munition, MAM-L.[36]

Multiple Anka-S drones along with the advanced Bayraktar TB2 drones were deployed and extensively used during the Operation Spring Shield launched by Turkey following the heavy losses the Turkish forces incurred at the hands of the Russian-backed Syrian government in northwestern Syria at the end February 2020.[36] The deployment was assessed by experts to be a tactical game-changer.[36][37][38]

On 25 February Syrian Air defenses shot down an Anka-S.[39][40]

On 1 March 2020, an Anka-S was shot down while operating in the Syrian province of Idlib by an air defence system, near the town of Saraqib.[41][42]

From wikiPedia, Looks like the drone is completely operational mostly within Syrian territory. But not a good experience btw, Syrian air defence forces have countered it well.

That's true but the amount of causalities the ANKA drones have inflicted on the Syrian forces is colossal. This is why defence experts around the world have taken note and pointed out how well they have performed.

 

[Saithan]

TB2 and ANKA we don’t know which did what. Except ANKA has a bigger operational range due to Satcom

 

[Asfandyar Bhittani]

Hi,

With 131 posts and a TT analyst---.

Absolutely worthless post with no merit---.

There is no such thing as NEVER in combat---.

Competent air defense is a fixed defense and that also gets destroyed---.

The drones have done what they were supposed to do in a limited tactical arena against an enemy which has a haphazard array of weapons with no systematic control and operation---.

Once the inroads were made---more successes followed thru---.

- Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Please take the "issue of TT analyst" with the admins. I have been here for years, not because I care about such stuff but bcz i like to read about all the info, differing POVs, etc the forum has to offer.

- Sure

- A drone still never finds targets on its own. There is always prior intelligence involved regarding potential targets in a certain area of operations. Be my guest to camp on that word.

- Sure, it gets destroyed. I never said anything to the contrary. But a drone's survivability in that scenario is rather shallow. That is why IDF's weapon of choice for a deep strike against static targets in Syria has almost always has been its fighter jets. Not its drones.

- Agreed. But the Turks were expecting a decent amount of retaliation against its UAVs in the theatres & that is why the more expandable yet competent TB2 took the lead, not the Anka. The resistance/retaliation never came and thus the TB2 overperformed when one considers its losses compared to the targets engaged.

- Agreed

 

[mustafa erkan]

And, this is just the beginning...

Much more stronger and bigger “brothers-in-arms” are stepping inside the ring...

https://image.shutterstock.com/imag...-9212019-akinci-military-260nw-1621199956.jpg

Bigger and stronger uav is too much good.
But working in network centric management systems with AI and using big smart missiles A2A and A2G is perfect.

 

[Zarvan]

Good video I came across showing the deployment of the ANKA-B's in Syria.

Excellent job brothers;

This one from Turkey and Cloud Shadow from China should be inducted plus our own MALE UAV

 

[LienNoir]

I really like the given name "swarn deployement/attack", not bc of some video showcasing some AI movement on smale Kamikaze drones, but in this case it's the sound of our turboprop motors.
Can u imagine the continuous buzzing of all thoses drones above your head, that at any time u can be killed by a silent strike (even if it doesn't explode the 20kg bomb's kinetic force will split u in half!). The psycologic impact. There isn't any drugs that can save u from that.
For last but not the least peaple tend to forget how amazing was the TuAF and how effective our F-16 pilots were(not just against enemy aircrafts).
Assad will try again and will get bItch slapped again.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

- Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Please take the "issue of TT analyst" with the admins. I have been here for years, not because I care about such stuff but bcz i like to read about all the info, differing POVs, etc the forum has to offer.

- Sure

- A drone still never finds targets on its own. There is always prior intelligence involved regarding potential targets in a certain area of operations. Be my guest to camp on that word.

- Sure, it gets destroyed. I never said anything to the contrary. But a drone's survivability in that scenario is rather shallow. That is why IDF's weapon of choice for a deep strike against static targets in Syria has almost always has been its fighter jets. Not its drones.

- Agreed. But the Turks were expecting a decent amount of retaliation against its UAVs in the theatres & that is why the more expandable yet competent TB2 took the lead, not the Anka. The resistance/retaliation never came and thus the TB2 overperformed when one considers its losses compared to the targets engaged.

- Agreed

Folks like Elon Musk and Selcuk Bayraktar, however, are firm believers in drones of all sorts...

Hi,

With 131 posts and a TT analyst---.

Absolutely worthless post with no merit---.

There is no such thing as NEVER in combat---.

Competent air defense is a fixed defense and that also gets destroyed---.

The drones have done what they were supposed to do in a limited tactical arena against an enemy which has a haphazard array of weapons with no systematic control and operation---.

Once the inroads were made---more successes followed thru---.

Syria and Libya are exactly without any proper AD against drones is little far fetched! Of course if you consider S-400/300/Buk/Pantsirs etc. as junks!!! It was the EW, specifically ASELSAN KORALs, which have been doing the background job...

Now, the following big birds are being earmarked to carry EW, AESA radars, A2A, A2G, anti-radiation, ASSh etc. munitions on their own!! And, their jet versions, especially in 0.8mach range, are also on the way...

 

[MastanKhan]

- Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Please take the "issue of TT analyst" with the admins. I have been here for years, not because I care about such stuff but bcz i like to read about all the info, differing POVs, etc the forum has to offer.

- Sure

- A drone still never finds targets on its own. There is always prior intelligence involved regarding potential targets in a certain area of operations. Be my guest to camp on that word.

- Sure, it gets destroyed. I never said anything to the contrary. But a drone's survivability in that scenario is rather shallow. That is why IDF's weapon of choice for a deep strike against static targets in Syria has almost always has been its fighter jets. Not its drones.

- Agreed. But the Turks were expecting a decent amount of retaliation against its UAVs in the theatres & that is why the more expandable yet competent TB2 took the lead, not the Anka. The resistance/retaliation never came and thus the TB2 overperformed when one considers its losses compared to the targets engaged.

- Agreed

Hi,

The dellusion of the " quiet man " oh well---.

This has been a different world for the last 50 years---.

If you keep your mouth shut---you get deprived of your rights to speak---.

You get only so much time to speak up---otherwise the world will shut your off---.

And right in front of your and our faces---pakistan vs India---.

Pakistanis kept their mouths shut and india kept on talking---and pakistan is a pariah nation---.

Speak up always---two thing will happen---either you will learn something new---or people will make fun of you---.

Two things will happen again---either you will get embarrassed and shut up or you will grow a thicker skin and that will make your resolve stronger---.

Couple of things will happen again---you might get an answer that might shock you and open your eyes to things unknown---

Now coming to the Drone---.

Drones are a great diversion against an SA missile system---. You send in 8 drones and you have emptied the enemy's Surface to air missile cannisters---the 9th drone would run havoc thru enemy assets---.

And it would leave an open field for air strikes---or strikes from stand off weapons by aircraft---or from other drones.

Normally what would be the number of medium or long range surface to air missiles protecting a site---maybe 4 or 8---.

So either launch them to bring the drone down from a distance or hold onto to them and then the drones can launch their weapons from a shorter distance at the missile batteries to destroy them---.

The resistance that we expect from the enemy is based on our perception and our training---.

If our level of training is extremely high and that is what we expect the enemy to go thru similar training---then we expect the enemy to act in a similar manner---that is the threshold we have setup---.

But when we get lesser resistance from the enemy that is due to how seriously we took the enemy in the first place.