Turkey's Erdogan warns patience will run out on Syria

[bsruzm]

Your country's fine, Your present leadership on the other hand ...

Fool some children with these stories: 'Your country is fine, bla bla....'. Turks heard these insincere words a lot in history, be it with Attila or Mehmed the Conqueror or Mustafa Kemal, lot's of examples there for you in Turk's history and it isn't a comparison of leaders.
Sincere opinion, you did sound like an annoying French bulldog, Tay.

 

[T-123456]

The answer is ignorance of erdogan and supporting terrorists like alqaeda,ISIS to destabilize syria and change the regime of syria

And what did this regime do to its,lets say 250 000 citizens?
And why did at least 6 million Syrians flee their country?
Btw,you know im not a supporter of Erdogan.

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Barking that bear away may prove tougher than with the mailman!
Oh! And, ethnic cleansing? No one else caught the irony? Priceless!

Thanks Tayyip, you made my day, Tay.

Wolfs dont bark,ask the bear Tay.
Never expected such comments from you.

a Pakistani

He is from Iran.

 

[Taygibay]

Never expected such comments from you.

I am sorry then .. to have disappointed you!
But mind you that was a comment on those words as reported! It stands!
You should have read me on Hollande's disastrous first half of his mandate
or worse, on GWB a few years back! Politicians ask for power from us the people.
When they abuse our trust or use their position to ridicule the nation by their words
and actions, they should be called for it.

And despite the poster prior to you seeing no problem turning it into an ad hominem attack in
the purest do as I say fashion, I repeat that it concerns only the person and not Turks nor Turkey.

Good day to you man, Tay.

 

[Uhuhu]

And what did this regime do to its,lets say 250 000 citizens?
And why did at least 6 million Syrians flee their country?
Btw,you know im not a supporter of Erdogan.

-lets 250000 people say it, specially those who got slaughtered and their livers was ripped out and eaten.
- because of war.
- yes you are not, and i mentioned in my previous post that everyone included opposition people and parties in turkey know the ignorance of erdogan and its wrong policy. and you are well aware of it, but wondering why in PDF you try to support him while in real life its something else.

 

[T-123456]

-lets 250000 people say it, specially those who got slaughtered and their livers was ripped out and eaten.
- because of war.
- yes you are not, and i mentioned in my previous post that everyone included opposition people and parties in turkey know the ignorance of erdogan and its wrong policy. and you are well aware of it, but wondering why in PDF you try to support him while in real life its something else.

How can the 250k talk about it when they are dead?
You should listen to the stories of those who came to Turkiye,then talk about it.
Maybe on your next visit to Turkiye?
I never support him,i only support my country.
So because Erdogan is in power,i let people bash my country?
I know many Iranians supporting and defending there country despite the mullah regime.

 

[libertycall]

That's what i was trying to say. Islamic leader should talk for all the muslims, not just for sunni or Shiites or zaidis.

Zaidis ARE Shiites. In fact they are one of the oldest, and at one time the largest Shia belief.

Also unlike the current ruling clerics in Iran, the Zaidi Shia share the same Aqeedah as the Sunnis. In fact it was because Imam Zaid Ibn Ali [A.S.] refused the demand of the extreme/ghulati Shia to do tabarra of the first three Imams of the Muslims, that he was abandoned by the ghulati Shia.

You'll find that the oldest branches of Shi'ism are called Shia not because they differ in basic belief from the Sunnis but on the basis of political beliefs. The difference in basic beliefs arose with the later Shia sects. Generally, the greater the number of Imams they follow, the greater the difference from basic Sunni beliefs.

The Saudis did not kill the Houthis because they are Shia, otherwise why would they have supported Ali Abdullah Saleh (a Shia) for so many years?

 

[T-123456]

I am sorry then .. to have disappointed you!
But mind you that was a comment on those words as reported! It stands!
You should have read me on Hollande's disastrous first half of his mandate
or worse, on GWB a few years back! Politicians ask for power from us the people.
When they abuse our trust or use their position to ridicule the nation by their words
and actions, they should be called for it.

And despite the poster prior to you seeing no problem turning it into an ad hominem attack in
the purest do as I say fashion, I repeat that it concerns only the person and not Turks nor Turkey.

Good day to you man, Tay.

Bs Tay,that picture was an insult to my people,nothing to do with Erdogan.
Have a better day.

 

[libertycall]

How can the 250k talk about it when they are dead?
You should listen to the stories of those who came to Turkiye,then talk about it.
Maybe on your next visit to Turkiye?
I never support him,i only support my country.
So because Erdogan is in power,i let people bash my country?
I know many Iranians supporting and defending there country despite the mullah regime.

The majority of Pakistanis do not hate Erdogan. The hatred of Erdogan exists among minority people of certain religious beliefs who place the interests of the Ayatollahs of Iran before those of Pakistan.

Day and night in Pakistan all you hear is their support for 'sekoo-la-rizm', but we know that if the Ayatollahs ever invaded Pakistan, these people would be the first to help them impose their bigoted religious beliefs. Hence you will never hear them attacking the Ayatollahs of Iran, in the same way they will attack leaders like Erdogan on the basis that he's an 'Islamist'.

Given the behavior of this sectarian religious minority, and their stranglehold over the Pakistani media and feudal lands, inevitably Pakistan will be faced with a Syria like situation.

So relax. The majority of Pakistanis are pro-Turkey. They recognize Turkey has been their friend. Iran ever since its takeover by this medieval extremist religious cult has been anything but. There may be a serpent in the garden, but nobody destroys the garden just because it has a snake running wild in it.

And T all these achievements in defeating the USSR some of these Pakistanis are chalking up as their victories were achieved with the courage blood and wit of the Pashtuns. I don't know who these 'brave' others are who are claiming these as 'Pakistani victories'.

Pashtuns have repeatedly tried to explain to our Turkish and Gulf Arab friends, that the people in Pakistan like the Zardaris, Sharif's etc. are not your friends. They are puppets of the Ayatollahs. When they visit your lands they pretend some great 'Muslim brotherhood', but at home they mock you and make clear how much their religious beliefs differ from yours. The Saudis are only now learning that lesson in a practical way.

 

[Taygibay]

At T-123456

The chihuahua is not from Mongolia that I know; how could it be construed as Turkic or Turk?
It is however renowned for barking as loudly as it is afraid, louder than its bite if less than its shakes!
It is my opinion of Erdogan's foreign policy that its noise to efficiency ratio fits that analogy!
That's all!

I have friends in and from Turkey, don't fret! Liberals, granted but Turks nonetheless.
It's not you guys, it's that guy! Really!

All the best to you and yours, peace out, Tay.

 

[Uhuhu]

How can the 250k talk about it when they are dead?
You should listen to the stories of those who came to Turkiye,then talk about it.
Maybe on your next visit to Turkiye?
I never support him,i only support my country.
So because Erdogan is in power,i let people bash my country?
I know many Iranians supporting and defending there country despite the mullah regime.

they are dead but the documents can show how they got killed.
i will listen to them, but have you listened to people who stayed or who are joining in defa alvatani and volunteer forces? if majority of syrian people would like to overthrown their regim, then no army could resist in front of them, when all people in all cities were in streets, regime had no chance, the army and government are also syrian people. why other side is fearing of free election in syria? and since the begining insisting of asad MUST go. no one has right to decide for syrian people. all f them should take a part in a free election and asad can be a candidate. so we all should respect the result. but as i know, other side knows the chance of wining of asad is high and more than others.

defend your country but anyone bashed your country? i was criticizing erdogan, actually im kind of defending turkey also, because i dont see any bright future for you and neighbors under ruling of him. thousand over thousands extremists are in your border and traveling through your country, now kurds are organized and armed and having support of all powers and west. right now your military forces are engaged in east of turkey, kurds are controlling north of syria like north of iraq, and they have support of the world. what are you gonna do? nothing. right now they are good people in the world people mind.
I again brotherly suggest you people to read history of Pakistan when they played same role in afghanestan,when they were supporting taliban.

 

[libertycall]

There is one thing the Ayatollah theocracy supporters and Putinists have never been able to explain. If the majority of the Syrian people are pro-Bashar and pro-Ayatollah regime; why are they not seeking refuge in Iran??

 

[Uhuhu]

There is one thing the Ayatollah theocracy supporters and Putinists have never been able to explain. If the majority of the Syrian people are pro-Bashar and pro-Ayatollah regime; why are they not seeking refuge in Iran??

because if you would ever take a look at the middle east map, you would see there is no common border with iran. so they stay in most closest place to their land or if they try to immigrate to a better place, they will go to west Europe as Germany to will have a high quality life, not any other country in middle east, east of Europe or any other part of the world.

you wanna see refugees in iran? you can go to iran and see how many millions afghans and iraqis after US invaded came to iran and majority of them still are living in iran.

 

[libertycall]

because if you would ever take a look at the middle east map, you would see there is no common border with iran. so they stay in most closest place to their land or if they try to immigrate to a better place, they will go to west Europe as Germany to will have a high quality life, not any other country in middle east, east of Europe or any other part of the world.

you wanna see refugees in iran? you can go to iran and see how many millions afghans and iraqis after US invaded came to iran and majority of them still are living in iran.

“Iran and Hezbollah bear responsibility for every Syrian killed, every tree felled, and every house destroyed.”

-Sheikh Subhi Al-Tufayli, First Secretary-General of Hezbollah

Common border? There's no common border with Russia either. And yet they migrate to Rus and don't want to stay.....nor do they ask Putin to send them to Iran.

And despite the fact that there's no common border with Iran either, tens of thousands of Shiite Iranian soldiers have also managed to make their way to Syria via Iraq.

It's awesome how people of your mindset who defend the Ayatollahs always engage in 'whataboutery' when you have no substantial answer to the atrocities of the Ayatollahs, so you can divert the topic. But sure I'll bite. Those 'Afghans' and 'Iraqis' that your Ayatollahs accepted are almost entirely Shiite Mongols or Shiite Arabs. Let me know when you have any figure for the number of native Sunni Afghans. The world knows how Iran treats Persian Sunnis let alone Sunnis from elsewhere.

Oh, and just to round this off, it's completely depraved to use those Shiite Mongol refugees from Afghanistan and Shiite terrorists from Pakistan and India and elsewhere to carry out massacres of civilians in Syria. Why drag other nations into it?

 

[T-123456]

why other side is fearing of free election in syria?

The people were on the streets to demand free elections and what happened?
Assad used soldiers and snipers to kill many protestors.
You know as wel as i do that if Assad would have called for free elections ,non of this mess would have happened.
After killing so many,he asks for elections and people should accept it?
Are you ok?
To Erdogan,we know he fvcked up bigtime and there is nothing we(the people) can do to get out of this mess.
We will just wait and see whats in future for my country and people but we will never go down without a fight or surrender.

 

[Madali]

There is one thing the Ayatollah theocracy supporters and Putinists have never been able to explain. If the majority of the Syrian people are pro-Bashar and pro-Ayatollah regime; why are they not seeking refuge in Iran??

Genius, Iran is on the east of Iraq. So to run off to Iran, they have to escape from Daesh controlled lands in syria and go to...Daesh controlled lands in the west of Iraq.

And any refugee having a choice between Germany and Iran, will choose Germany to live in, duh. It has nothing to do with Idealogy, otherwise why so many Pakistanis live in USA? Do they hate their country Pakistan and love USA more?