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Turkey to Send Troops to Libya at Tripoli's Request, Erdogan Says

Your internal politics is not too difficult to digest. Your country is once again run by a dictator after successfully dump Mubarak. It is because some of 30 % of your population which consist of Christian and secular nationalist Muslim like you who lost in the election cannot abide with the rule of the game of a democratic country.

You start flooding the street and make the nation hijacked by huge demonstrations making the nation economy in limbo. Similar condition that also happen in Thailand between Red and Yellow protester. The different between you and Thailand is that in Thailand each group voting result are not so much different while in Egypt both Islamist parties who back Mursi government got 70 % votes. This is a very huge win that should be respected but your kind is just traitors of Egyptian democratic movement.

Another traitor of your nation who run your military then take advantage of the situation and make a coup and put Mursi in jail and disband Muslim Brotherhood plus killing many Islamist in the street who protest Sisi illegal and shameful action. Similar condition also happen in Thailand and even until now its military still grasp huge chunk in parliament by force.

I bet not only 70 % of Egyptian who hate Sisi but also some of secular nationalist who still has heart and a true democrat since not all of them were going out to the street to oppose Mursi. I bet only less than 5 % who actually flood Egypt street to protest Mursi during that time.

No, you cannot overthrow Sisi since he will use force to protect his dictatorship. At least not now where other Egyptian Military generals are either coward or traitor to its own people. Your armed force are well known for that.

I actually want to tell similar condition when Indonesia was ruled by Soekarno trough dictatorship when he disbanded parliament and also Islamic parties in 1959. People start to hate him because of that. This condition become worst after Soekarno wage a war with Malaysia, another Muslim country, during 1960-1966 period. Luckily Malaysia was help by Commonwealth countries like British, Australia, etc during that time. Fighting Malaysian were not popular among Muslim population and demonstration started to arise and lead by Islamic university student (HMI). Army get split and it ended with Soekarno downfall. Similar condition can happen with Sisi if he want to bring troops to Libya to help another dictator, and with all of atrocities he has made, he can end up being hanged.

Politics in Muslim nations are not too much different. It is a fight between secular nationalist vs Islamist. The different between democratic nation like Indonesia, Turkey, Pakistan, Marocco, Tunisia, etc compared to Egypt is that both groups in that nations respect the rule of the game and dont want to come back to dictatorship anymore regardless election result. Their democracy has become matured although still not perfect.

I want to tell you my country experience. After embracing democracy in 1998, Indonesia first parliamentary election is won by a coalition of Islamist parties with Nationalist parties who are close to Islamist group. This coalition has made huge change on constitution that secular nationalist opposed. Despite different in ideology both secular nationalist parties vs Islamist parties can still work together in parliament. The next two election were still won by coalition of Islamic parties with National religious parties and one of the result is giving autonomy status and Islamic law to Aceh province which is also opposed by secular nationalist party. And since 2014 the secular nationalist won the election and the Islamist and nationalist religious parties also respected the result. This is the way civilian should act so that democracy and civilian supremacy can be protected.

Our military, alhamdulillah, also understand the will of the people and accepted the parliament decision to eliminate its political role during early period of our democracy. In the past our Armed force has huge portion of seats in Parliament, given by Soeharto.

This is Prabowo Subianto campaign in Jakarta. He got 45 % vote in the election and he is supported by Islamist group. You can see that even his campaign in the morning was preceded by Tahajud and Fajr prayer among his supporter. We also have huge Islamist supporter here. The politics of Muslim nation is not much different.


Wonderful response brother .. :tup:
 
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Lol.. another delusionist who lives makes up things. 70%? Why not claim Egyptian will abandon Arabic and embrace Turkish culture? You sounds like high on grass. Egyptian will United under a war against foreigners. Turkish will enroach their land and Egyptian will protect against their foothold in Libya at all cost.

You are the one that know little about Egypt and Arab politics. Most Arab populace are Islamist and if democracy is given to them the chance of political Islam win the election are very big. It can be seen from Algeria politics with FIS winning 90 % of vote during 90 that is denied by their military and create civil war there for some time. Tunisian and Maroco who are now democratic also have similar pattern with Islamic party close to Muslim Brotherhood win the election.

Egypt is also not different with Muslim Brotherhood got around 50 % vote and Salafi got 20 percent during Egypt fair election. Both Islamist parties make coalition to back Mursi government. GNA is also supported by Islamist group in Libya. You are not Muslim so you dont know that Islamist support each other. Their ideology which is Islam promote unity among Muslim. Those 70 percent of Islamist supporter in Egypt feel more closer to their brother in GNA than to Sisi who destroy Islamist movement and agenda in their own country.


Here some fact for you to educate yourself

https://edition.cnn.com/2012/01/21/world/africa/egypt-elections/index.html
 
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Turkey is just not stop surprising me , I wish that some day Turkey and Pakistan to join Forces to make a Peace keeping force which go into Muslim countries as peace keepers .
Soon inshaAllah

If turkey enter the conflict. Very likely UAE and Saudi will sponsor Egypt to send troops into Libya. Egypt will have easier way to send massive column of armour and support compare to turkey. Not to mention naval blockade as turkey need to cross sea to reach Libya.
If they have a death wish that is.

UAE and KSA better stay away from this
 
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Lol.. another delusionist who lives makes up things. 70%? Why not claim Egyptian will abandon Arabic and embrace Turkish culture? You sounds like high on grass. Egyptian will United under a war against foreigners. Turkish will enroach their land and Egyptian will protect against their foothold in Libya at all cost.

Dude you are starting to sound stupid in your Hate towards turkey, you don't have to reply in every Turkey related thread specially calling other delusional .
 
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Dude you are starting to sound stupid in your Hate towards turkey, you don't have to reply in every Turkey related thread specially calling other delusional .
How is somebody who claim 70% Egyptian support Turkish Erdogan vs own Egyptian president or their own people not a delusion?

I will not be surprised next time he may even spew nonsense like 70% Han Chinese in China will support Erdogan against CCP and Han Culture and embrace Turkish and Islam... See how absurd the nonsense here is getting..

You shall use more of your lecture for the one who speaks absolute nonsense thinking he can really influence other into believing his words. There is a threshold in speaking nonsense but this has really cross the line and tested our IQ level.
 
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How is somebody who claim 70% Egyptian support Turkish Erdogan vs own Egyptian president or their own people not a delusion?

It might be a rough a estimate, you don't catch on words , but it is true that Egypt has kicked their democratically elected President by the Army and now been ruled by a Dictator .

I will not be surprised next time he may even spew nonsense like 70% Han Chinese in China will support Erdogan against CCP and Han Culture and embrace Turkish and Islam... See how absurd the nonsense here is getting..

Again, why bring turkey ? why are you so obsessed with Turkey ? when he make such a claim than you argue with it, so far he make no claim about Han Chinese or whatever . So I think you don't need to be rude to members here just because you hate Turkey , It will get you nowhere but show that you are intolerant and just obsessed with turkey .
 
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It might be a rough a estimate, you don't catch on words , but it is true that Egypt has kicked their democratically elected President by the Army and now been ruled by a Dictator .



Again, why bring turkey ? why are you so obsessed with Turkey ? when he make such a claim than you argue with it, so far he make no claim about Han Chinese or whatever . So I think you don't need to be rude to members here just because you hate Turkey , It will get you nowhere but show that you are intolerant and just obsessed with turkey .

Against Dictator vs supporting another race or another countries president is 2 different thing. I hope you dont mix up. No sane Egypt will believe this nonsense about Egyptian supporting Turkey. Sisi, no matter is dictator or not. He is a true Egyptian who will protect the sovereignty of Egypt. You think most Egyptian will support Erdogan to erode Egypt sovereignty?

Are you ok? This thread is about talking Turkey sending army to Libya? How do you expect me not to have no mention about Turkey? Isnt this very meaning of this thread in the first place?
 
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As we said before
Egypt has the upper hand in libya
And turkey dont have anychance against egy
End of story.

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Are you ok? This thread is about talking Turkey sending army to Libya? How do you expect me not to have no mention about Turkey? Isnt this very meaning of this thread in the first place?

Yes but why poking your head in something which is not your matter ? if turkey talk about Uhigur Chinese people jump with rage, so if Turkey is sending its army in Libya with full confidence of Libyan Govt, than why it bothers you ? Plus my concern is not with you participating in debate, My argument is your aggressive way of doing so.
 
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Yes but why poking your head in something which is not your matter ? if turkey talk about Uhigur Chinese people jump with rage, so if Turkey is sending its army in Libya with full confidence of Libyan Govt, than why it bothers you ? Plus my concern is not with you participating in debate, My argument is your aggressive way of doing so.
Is there any rules in this thread , only Turkish , Egyptian and Pakistan can reply in this thread? You are asking some absurd inquiry. Care to answer this question?
 
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As we said before
Egypt has the upper hand in libya
And turkey dont have anychance against egy
End of story.

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Is there a war btw TR and EGY that I'm not aware of?
Or does EGY or TR said they will be at war in Libya because of some guys on the ground?
 
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Is there any rules in this thread , only Turkish , Egyptian and Pakistan can reply in this thread? You are asking some absurd inquiry. Care to answer this question?

I think I already did .
 
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I think I already did .
What did? Who are you to try ordering around or set rules? Are you a super moderator?

Im with Turkey, however i hope the conflict in Libya stops and people come to agreement to stop this nonsensical conflict.
Stop faking to be a Egyptian.

As we said before
Egypt has the upper hand in libya
And turkey dont have anychance against egy
End of story.

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There is one member claiming to be Egyptian supporting Turkey. Care to clarify how is the situation regards to Libya war in Egypt? I believe he even expect Egypt to give up sovereign for some of your land for Libya/Turkey.
 
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What did? Who are you to try ordering around or set rules? Are you a super moderator?


Stop faking to be a Egyptian.
What? is that so hard to believe that people of a same group can have different views? is that surprising from a Chinese perspective?

And Stay on topic... Don't go crying to mods later on...
 
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