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Well had arabs not revolted for what ever reasons there would have been no issues in Palestine ..there would probably been.turkish empire rather than American power house or atlesst a multi polar world
Their would probably been no hitler or WW2 either

Would be very interesting to know what had happened if Ottoman Empire was still alive today.

World war 1 was an internal conflict between European nations, Ottoman empire got sucked into it unwillingly.

A secret treaty was concluded between the Ottoman Empire and the German Empire on August 2, 1914. The Ottoman Empire was to enter the war on the side of the Central Powers one day after the German Empire declared war on Russia.

The Sultan himself had wanted the Empire to remain neutral.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottoman–German_alliance

stop lying no body like erdogan the clown and yes we fought the ottomans to take our country from turkish Colonists
Fakhri Pasha surrender to arabic army in madina that army later kicked ottomans out of arab lands

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ottomans They gave up alqudas to british army what a shame

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Soon the oil will run out and you will eat sand once again :sarcastic:
 
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Why even touch sensitive issues? aren't current chaos enough for Muslim world? Such acts make no sense but increase hatred in hearts for each other and start a new unproductive and useless discussion.

Mate everyone should know that who harms the Islam most. Those weak Arabs beg uncle sam five times a day to protect the throne, they have nothing to do with Islam and Muslims. The most expensive house in the world? Yeah who gives a fvck Rohengya Muslims.. 500+ million Euro for a portrait? Buy it away! Who cares Yemeni children starving or Palestinian got bombing... Got the point?
 
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Mate everyone should know that who harms the Islam most. Those weak Arabs beg uncle sam five times a day to protect the throne, they have nothing to do with Islam and Muslims. The most expensive house in the world? Yeah who gives a fvck Rohengya Muslims.. 500+ million Euro for a portrait? Buy it away! Who cares Yemeni children starving or Palestinian got bombing... Got the point?
Its really shameful for leader of muslim extremist state to buy a nude portrait for 300 million dollars
Just wow
 
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Mate everyone should know that who harms the Islam most. Those weak Arabs beg uncle sam five times a day to protect the throne, they have nothing to do with Islam and Muslims. The most expensive house in the world? Yeah who gives a fvck Rohengya Muslims.. 500+ million Euro for a portrait? Buy it away! Who cares Yemeni children starving or Palestinian got bombing... Got the point?

Hey man, you should get real, the huge Erdogan's presidential palace which consists of over 1000 rooms has an estimated cost of $ 600 milion...that must be the most expensive house in the world. Just imagine if he spent all those wasted money on helping poor people in Turkey instead of building 1000 empty rooms...

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stop lying no body like erdogan the clown and yes we fought the ottomans to take our country from turkish Colonists
Fakhri Pasha surrender to arabic army in madina that army later kicked ottomans out of arab lands

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Yeah you kicked Ottomans out and presented Quds/Jerusalem to your mummy queen Elizabeth. Ottomans as a monarchy had some problems but they had controlled you guys properly, until English mummy came and colonized Arab countries. There is no glory in this dude
 
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Yeah you kicked Ottomans out and presented Quds/Jerusalem to your mummy queen Elizabeth. Ottomans as a monarchy had some problems but they had controlled you guys properly, until English mummy came and colonized Arab countries. There is no glory in this dude

Arabs (people from modern-day KSA) ruled the Islamic Caliphate for 1000 years (Rashidun, Umayyad, Abbasid and Fatimid) from the very beginning until it was stolen in 1517 by the Ottomans. During 95% of all the Islamic conquests and during the heights of the Islamic Golden Age and civilization on all fronts.


Ottomans were highly incompetent in comparison and achieved very little. Not to say neglecting Arab territory for the sake of tiny Balkans inhabited by local Slavs. A fact that the Iraqi Twitter user rightly highlights.

There was no control as most of the Arab world was sovereign including 90% of Arabia. It seems that you are implying that Arabs (despite ruling the longest in the region and despite the forefathers of Arabs creating the greatest and most influential civilizations) need to be ruled by more incompetent foreigners. Maybe Iranians need to be ruled by Semites, Greeks, Arabs, Mongols, Turks and Brits again?

The West colonized the entire world back then including your country de facto. Don't get ahead of yourself.

KSA was never a Western colony and Arabs back then had every right to have 100% sovereignty. Brits had their own plans and ideas. Ottomans were allied with Germans.

To every Arab user on this forum reading this thread and elsewhere. Have the historical butthurt in mind and inferiority complexes. It sits extremely deep in certain people as I only see such reactions from non-Arabs here. Yet to see an Arab make threads about how the Ottomans stole the Caliphate in 1517.


In Saudi Arabia the ruling elite despise everything Turkish/Ottoman. They are constantly disparaging them, but the common folk revere Erdogan, and some call him "Ameer al moemeneen" because they know he is the only Muslim leader who has Islam's best interests at heart, and not a two-faced traitor.
So by extension all Gulf countries ( with the exception of Qatar) hate Turkey because they were the ones backed by UK/US against the Ottomans.

I suggest to stop using the Saudi Arabian flags when you are a foreigner (non-Arab) and false-flagger.

There is no hate nor any love. Neutrality. Islamists in the GCC as well as elsewhere "love" all Muslims while the rest of us know our history and know who are our real friends and who are not. Who want genuine partnerships or who are deluded and want to revive long gone empires. We have Arabs among ourselves who are deluded as well and have dreams of reviving past Arab empires but they are thankfully a minority. It seems when it comes to others this is a bit more widespread if PDF is the proof....

I think Arabs would love to see holy stuff in England at various museums instead of a muslim nation. I wonder where were that guys' ancestors when Turks fight for holy cities of Islam against non-Muslims ? Once arab.. Always arab..

We already know that the world's most visited and famous Western museums are flooded with Arab artifacts and that of our ancient forefathers that created the first civilizations on the planet, but what exactly is the difference here? You are parading Islamic Arab artifacts as if they were your own while you have zero connection to it other than stealing it. No difference at all.

BTW Arab governments and wealthy businessmen are buying our heritage back.

Saudi Arabia retrieves 52,000 historical artefacts since 2011

ARAB NEWS | Published — Sunday 22 October 2017

JEDDAH: The Saudi Commission for Tourism and National Heritage (SCTH) announced that it has successfully retrieved more than 52,000 artefacts from inside and outside the country as part of the National Project for Digital Recording of Antiquities, which follows international standards for archaeological recording and archiving.
The project aims to document and store all historic sites, artefacts, historical monument and urban heritage buildings in a comprehensive national digital registry linked to a multi-dimensional digital map, which is compatible with modern GIS technologies and digital databases, maps, images and graphics.
Director-General of Archiving and Protecting Antiquities at the SCTH, Naif Al-Qannour, said: “The new digital recording project stores detailed information and reports about 32,000 artefacts retrieved from outside the Kingdom and 20,000 returned by citizens to the SCTH since Prince Sultan bin Salman, president of SCTH, launched the campaign to retrieve national artefacts in 2011.”
“Some artefacts found their way outside Saudi Arabia through foreign travelers who moved them to other countries.” Al-Qannour continued, “One of the most famous artefacts is the Tayma Stone, which was discovered by Charles Huber and later on displayed at the Louvre Museum in Paris.”
He also explained that many employees of foreign companies, especially those who work in the oil industry, visited many parts of Saudi Arabia to study their geology and natural manifestations, collected the artefacts they found and took them to national museums at their home countries.
“Robbers of archaeological sites sometimes dig for archaeological treasures and achieve fast financial gains,” Al-Qannour said, “By doing so, they are destroying important archaeological evidence found in these sites, be it on land or in the sea.”
Al-Qannour stated that the SCTH will continue to work on retrieving and protecting artefacts and has released a red list of artefacts stolen from their sites inside Saudi Arabia and information about them in order to make them easier to identify. The SCTH has also announced handing financial rewards to those who return artefacts or report their loss or theft.
In 2011, Prince Sultan launched a campaign for retrieving national artefacts, including media and cultural programs and initiatives that aim to enlighten and inform citizens about the value of artefacts and the importance of returning them to the SCTH.
Recently, the SCTH released a list of 140 names of citizens who returned artefacts, reported archaeological sites or cooperated with the SCTH in protecting the country’s cultural heritage between 2013 and 2017 in order to honor them during the First Antiquities Forum, which will be launched under the patronage of King Salman, on Nov. 7 at the National Museum in Riyadh.

http://www.arabnews.com/node/1181431/saudi-arabia

Troll thread indeed. I suggest that Arab users here ignore the barking and make a clear message for foreigners trying to steal our ancient and beautiful lands or lay claim on it. The reply will be breaking the skulls like every occupier eventually found out.

I am out of here.

Me moron?

Talk to me when you have become civilized. :sarcastic:

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It's impossible to teach the meaning of shame to uncivilized people.

Arabs and our forefathers created the first civilizations known to mankind and invented science and civilization as it was known for millennia and were pioneers for millennia. As late as during the Islamic Golden Age. Something that your people have never done and never will do. So you should keep quite and not talk about such topics.
That photo is of some Bedouins in UAE. What is your point moron? That eating a rice dish using your hands (which millions of people do across all countries and continents) is somehow less civilized? What do you tell the Chinese who eat some of the most strange cuisine yet are inherently much more clever than your likes (much higher IQ on average) and who are much more advanced as well?


It seems that the moderators are sleeping once again as usual. It is allowed to insult Arabs here on PDF 24/7 but as soon as one of the few remaining Arabs reply in kind, they are banned. What a fucking joke.:lol:
 
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You are parading Islamic Arab artifacts as if they were your own while you have zero connection to it other than stealing it. No difference at all.

I think we should send back all Arab artifacts. No one wants to see them anyways.
And no Turk would ever pretend to be an Arab.

Being an Arab is nothing to boast about. LOL
 
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You **** aren't even worthy of being Fahreddin Pasha's toe nail, scum.

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Bro, What a man ! A perfect character/honor/dignity example for current's insectivore cowards in whites, bending over West for their personal interests to proceed their monarchy over own population, while sacrificing holy places with paying billion $ tax money as bribes.
When oil ends, I really wonder what they are going to offer as bribe :)
 
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Hey saif, if Ottomans were here first we had a shield against western invaders, second Palestine/Quds wasn't a Zionist occupied land, third Najdis couldn't betray Muslims. I am no fan of empires but after Ottomans and Safavids collapse, Islamic world was weakened and filled with hired traitors. Only in Iran, we could kick American stooge out, but most of Arabic and Muslim countries are still pawns to US/UK. And with Ale-Saud ruling Arabian peninsula, no colonial powers needs to send soldiers since their lackeys are there to serve them

Don't take it personal, it's a bitter truth
 
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Talk to me when you have become civilized. :sarcastic:

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I see nothing wrong with this image.
To be honest, I'd mistake it for a local wedding if it weren't for the kafiyah.
This image makes me appreciate Arabs for not completely losing it in all the vulgar wealth.

Atatürk is the best thing that happened to Turkey, but have you gone so far that you can't appreciate the simple pleasures of being "uncivilized"!
 
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I see nothing wrong with this image.
To be honest, I'd mistake it for a local wedding if it weren't for the kafiyah.
This image makes me appreciate Arabs for not completely losing it in all the vulgar wealth.

Atatürk is the best thing that happened to Turkey, but have you gone so far that you can't appreciate the simple pleasures of being "uncivilized"!

Those are Bedouins of UAE. Nowhere representative for 500 million people let alone the average Emirati. Arabs are some of the most proud people in the world who retain some of the most traces of our ancient culture in this modern era whether it is traditional clothing, traditional pursuits, poetry, art, music, cuisine etc. Bedouin culture is all about being together and collectivism. Eating together in large gatherings and sharing food from the same plate as humans have done since we emerged, is a tiny part of this.

BTW I can see that non-Arabs are present on that photo too. It's probably a gathering during Ramadan or other similar events.

Has absolutely nothing to do with "being civilized" or not. As I wrote the Chinese eat some of the most strange cuisine on the planet yet their IQ is vastly superior to that of Turks and they are also a much more advanced society. Today as well as historically. We can mention the French as well.

BTW I eat chicken with my hands most of the time yet I am highly educated and highly successful with an tested IQ over 140. It must mean that I am not civilized just due to this fact. I sometimes eat fish and seafood with my hands as well.
 
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