Turkey shells Syria's Afrin region, minister says operation has begun

[Mucahit]

How can this happen that 72 aircrafts attacked 108 targets and no YPG injured or killed??....never gonna believe this shit

PKK never admits any casualties and when they do it's always "civilians"

 

[KingWest]

How can this happen that 72 aircrafts attacked 108 targets and no YPG injured or killed??....never gonna believe this shit

We'll find the bodies today or tomorrow, than we'll know for sure how many are send to hell

 

[T-123456]

How can this happen that 72 aircrafts attacked 108 targets and no YPG injured or killed??....never gonna believe this shit

They targeted fortified positions,im sure some got killed but it can also be that they got intel from the Russians or Americans to get out of there.
As you know,the Turkish Armed Forces warned all sides except the YPG of the positions to be bombed.

 

[Oublious]

Will turkey give affrin to FSA or will they keep it to themselves?

Afrin is for Syrians and not Turks.

 

[Cyclonethunder]

They targeted fortified positions,im sure some got killed but it can also be that they got intel from the Russians or Americans to get out of there.
As you know,the Turkish Armed Forces warned all sides except the YPG of the positions to be bombed.

Well if they did then it wasn't a good move.... They should have surprised YPG with their attacks

 

[Cyclonethunder]

Afrin is for Syrians and not Turks.

So it will be given to FSA and then syrian army is going to take it from FSA

 

[jamahir]

Yes, and?

Nothing. Just that you support terrorists.

 

[damm1t]

Nothing. Just that you support terrorists.

Do you support PYD ?

 

[Fenasi Kerim]

So it will be given to FSA and then syrian army is going to take it from FSA

Are you trolling or genuinely dumb? when have you seen a country willingly hand land they have taken over back.

 

[T-123456]

Well if they did then it wasn't a good move.... They should have surprised YPG with their attacks

It doesnt work that way in such a complicated situations like the Syrian where there are multiple sides to be considered.

 

[jamahir]

Do you support PYD ?

The issue of the Kurds is like the Kashmir issue in the Indian subcontinent and I support a political settlement to the Kurdish question. The Kurds must be given a temporary nation of their own, but since I support a Jamahiriya system of social-political organization of society, the independent Kurdistan should be only until the neighbors also adopt the Jamahiriya system.

The current status of Kurds was well put by Muammar Gaddafi[1] :

*** 17.12.2003 - The Kurds have lost in the Iraq deal. They came out empty-handed.

What have the Kurds gained from the deal on Iraq? Nothing. Their only gain was embracing the occupying forces, planting kisses on the cheeks of the new rulers appointed by the occupiers. They also gained the charges of high treason and of being the quislings of the occupation leveled at them.

Some say that we are at a moment of historical transformation. Some claim that their purpose is to liberate peoples from their oppressors and persecutors. No people have been more persecuted than the Kurds. No nation has known more oppressed than the Kurdish nation. Why then are there double standards in such vital questions? Why does not anybody take the side of the Kurdish nation as it declares its independence and unity? Why do not the swords aimed at it return to their sheaths so that it can take its place as a sisterly neighbor of the Arab, Persian and Turkish Nations?

Who has fooled the Kurds? Who manipulated their holy cause? Who sold them off?

Again, in his own words :

www.youtube.com/watch?v=9O2-DMTmGuY​

More[2] :

Al-Gaddafi’s words to support an independent Kurdistan in the Middle East came after he had criticized the lack of will among the Arab nations to be united like the European Union countries.

“We have no comment on Mr. Al-Gaddafi’s words except for the part of the Kurds, we are not in support of creating a Kurdish independent state,” said Walid Mua’aleem, Syria’s foreign minister, said Zebari.

“Al-Gaddafi answered him,” Zebari added. “You claim to be a Ba’athist and your slogan is ‘Unity, Freedom, and Socialism’…If you do not recognize the freedoms of others, then you are not honest with your own principles.”

Even Abdullah Öcalan wants a different path[3] :

Öcalan now argues that the period of armed warfare is past and a political solution to the Kurdish question should be developed.

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[1] http://english.algaddafi.org/the-kurds-come-out-empty-handed.html

[2] http://ekurd.net/mismas/articles/misc2010/11/state4343.htm

[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdullah_Öcalan

 

[Elvin]

 

[KediKesenFare3]

@The Eagle
This guy is opening one thread after another about the same topic every day. This is spamming.

 

[mustafa erkan]

Yeah, it just costed the EU a few billion dollars.

If it is as that simple we may give 3 billions to EU if they want Syrians as guest in their countries.3 billions per year was their promise but they helped only few millions to Syrians.
May be you want to take them to your countries so We give billions to you. I dont want from you to take Arabs you May take only sdg and ypg members who love America and Israel to much. Good offer isnt it?

 

[damm1t]

The issue of the Kurds is like the Kashmir issue in the Indian subcontinent and I support a political settlement to the Kurdish question. The Kurds must be given a temporary nation of their own, but since I support a Jamahiriya system of social-political organization of society, the independent Kurdistan should be only until the neighbors also adopt the Jamahiriya system.

The current status of Kurds was well put by Muammar Gaddafi[1] :




Again, in his own words :

www.youtube.com/watch?v=9O2-DMTmGuY​

More[2] :




Even Abdullah Öcalan wants a different path[3] :


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[1] http://english.algaddafi.org/the-kurds-come-out-empty-handed.html

[2] http://ekurd.net/mismas/articles/misc2010/11/state4343.htm

[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdullah_Öcalan

Dude, Turkey's thesis is PYD/PKK can't represent whole Kurds since they are armed terrorist groups. Turkey let HDP -which is political wing of PKK- to enter parliamant and do politics. But they have chosen to be spokerperson of PKK instead of Kurdish people.

According to Surveys the most Kurds who live in Turkey have no problem with the state, I can post here hundreds of videos of Kurds that curse on PKK for the mess and trouble. They don't want them. But people blindly see as Kurds=PKK/PYD...

As conclusion, nobody want to hear Kurds but listen PKK in name of them. We have no problem with Kurdish people. Kurds became president, PM, MP, minister, Intl. chief, generals etc. in this country. The problem is PKK and the world who sees the PKK as representative of the Kurds.

Now let me ask the same question again. Dou you support PYD ?