Turkey seeks Pakistan’s help against PKK, IS

[Assange]

So finally Sunnis powers are united against Kurds to finish them once it for all eh....

May god be with Kurds...

 

[kaonalpha]

internal matter ? they r asking and inviting us for help against their internal matter. we are not engaging by our own instead invited for it. we should help them, they have been helping us all the way, whenever we needed. and i think if Pakistan can help Srilanka, Pak can surely help turkey also then....

Then I recommend , you should book your tickets for a one way trip to turkey.

No sane person would engage an enemy until or unless they have resolved their own issues first.

 

[Tipu7]

Enemy of your friend is your enemy.
It is foolish to compare Arab Yemen clash with Turkey PKK clash.
Kurds are separatists secular terrorists who want separate country by ripping apart East of Turkey, North of Syria & Iraq and West of Iran.
They are like BLA, BLF etc which operates on foreign bosses will.
War in Syria-Iraq gave them opportunity to demand more support from West and Israel to seize the northern territory of Syria and Iraq. The Power Kurds gained is not limited to militancy, put also on ideological and political scale. Power full Kurds are not in Turkey interests since by increasing their influence on Turkish politics they can demand more anti Turkey and pro Kurdistan rights which can become great trouble for not only Turkey but also Iran. So it must be stopped. Another front in middle east, involving disintegration and insurgency in Turkey and then in Iran is not in our interests. Because the hands behind so called Kurd rights moments are also hostile to Pakistan......... "some one" can take help from these dark hands to strengthen insurgency in Balochistan. So kill the snake at its home.
Support Turkey the way they want. It will not give harmful impact on Pakistan, but a healthy Pak Turk brotherhood........

 

[Farah Sohail]

Then I recommend , you should book your tickets for a one way trip to turkey.

No sane person would engage an enemy until or unless they have resolved their own issues first.

Turkey doesnt need our boots on ground or equipment...as its own army is enough and better equipped than ours..... All it needs is..maybe our advise in tactics and strategy in dealing this kind of war.. as we have immense experience in the last decade to handle 2-3 fronts at the same time.. So whats wrong in helping them and sharing with them our tactics and strategy?

 

[Djinn]

Turkey doesnt need our boots on ground or equipment...as its own army is enough and better equipped than ours..... All it needs is..maybe our advise in tactics and strategy in dealing this kind of war.. as we have immense experience in the last decade to handle 2-3 fronts at the same time.. So whats wrong in helping them and sharing with them our tactics and strategy?

Since Turkey hasn't made it clear what kind of help it requires from Pakistan. May i suggest that your notion of providing help to Turkey is also based on subjective assessment. Fact is Pakistan is embroiled in a war of it's own and cannot afford to divert its attention & resources. Joining a war in another country isn't as simple as it seems and then off-course there are repercussions as well.

 

[-SINAN-]

Turkey doesnt need our boots on ground or equipment...as its own army is enough and better equipped than ours..... All it needs is..maybe our advise in tactics and strategy in dealing this kind of war.. as we have immense experience in the last decade to handle 2-3 fronts at the same time.. So whats wrong in helping them and sharing with them our tactics and strategy?

Mate, what you are saying is true but i have to add. We are fighting against these terrorists for 3 decades now.... we have immense experience to deal with them.

 

[Umair Nawaz]

Claim on Kashmir was made by undivided Pakistan. Pakistan got divided so should not Bangladesh also claim half of Kashmir.

go home kid.

Mate, what you are saying is true but i have to add. We are fighting against these terrorists for 3 decades now.... we have immense experience to deal with them.

Yes u do have experience. But there is something else besides just raw experience that u have. This is LIC situation, and there r not many who have EFFECTIVELY BEATEN THEM OR OVER CAME INSURGENCY. oNLY A FEW COUNTRIES HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DO SO ONE OF THEM IS PAKISTAN!

Thats the difference, its how u handle that like i hinted in my post in ''who is behind ankara bombing'' thread. If yr an intelligence or military guy or an analyst then u will know.

 

[Farah Sohail]

Mate, what you are saying is true but i have to add. We are fighting against these terrorists for 3 decades now.... we have immense experience to deal with them.

I agree... I have already said tht turkish forces are much better equipped and trained than ours.. But maybe, as the topic suggests..tht maybe Turkey has sought our advise in dealing with 2-3 fronts at the same time.. I dont know..i am just guessing all this.., going by Gen Raheels visit to turkey and his statements... Turkey has been dealing with kurds for a long time.. But with changing global scenario, daesh, syria and all... States need to have better anti terror cooperation... I am in no way saying tht Turkish forces cant handle all this on their own... Its just tht Pak has been facing similar challenges.....and also has gained immense experience in the last decade... So what better to have shared strategy and tactics between two brotherly nations, who have similar challenges? Maybe this is what Turkish leadership has said to Gen Raheel... And if it is.. Pak should do its part..this is what i am saying

go home kid.


Yes u do have experience. But there is something else besides just raw experience that u have. This is LIC situation, and there r not many who have EFFECTIVELY BEATEN THEM OR OVER CAME INSURGENCY. oNLY A FEW COUNTRIES HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DO SO ONE OF THEM IS PAKISTAN!

Thats the difference, its how u handle that like i hinted in my post in ''who is behind ankara bombing'' thread. If yr an intelligence or military guy or an analyst then u will know.

We cant say at this moment tht Pak has effectively beaten or overcame insurgency as yet.. Yes, we have had substantial gains, but to say tht we have won our war against terrorists as yet, is not correct... So no need to be arrogant... We are still in middle of war, with serious hopes of stability coming soon..but cant say tht we have beaten them or a war is won already

 

[Umair Nawaz]

I agree... I have already said tht turkish forces are much better equipped and trained than ours.. But maybe, as the topic suggests..tht maybe Turkey has sought our advise in dealing with 2-3 fronts at the same time.. I dont know..i am just guessing all this.., going by Gen Raheels visit to turkey and his statements... Turkey has been dealing with kurds for a long time.. But with changing global scenario, daesh, syria and all... States need to have better anti terror cooperation... I am in no way saying tht Turkish forces cant handle all this on their own... Its just tht Pak has been facing similar challenges.....and also has gained immense experience in the last decade... So what better to have shared strategy and tactics between two brotherly nations, who have similar challenges? Maybe this is what Turkish leadership has said to Gen Raheel... And if it is.. Pak should do its part..this is what i am saying



We cant say at this moment tht Pak has effectively beaten or overcame insurgency as yet.. Yes, we have had substantial gains, but to say tht we have won our war against terrorists as yet, is not correct... So no need to be arrogant... We are still in middle of war, with serious hopes of stability coming soon..but cant say tht we have beaten them or a war is won already

To swat main kya mere chacha g Kinnu bech rahy they Op rah e neejat main?

 

[xyxmt]

This is some flawed logic.PKK has nothing to do with us.ISIS to be fair with u still is not a threat to us.
And if whole of NATO+America+Russia cannot eliminate ISIS then let me tell u my brother,we with much less resources then those cant do anything.

they are not interested in eliminating it, once a state commits itself to eliminating rogue elements like ISIS they wont have a place to hide, ever heard of TTP? they used to be a threat to the existence of Pakistan...lol...God knows whatever happened to their two named khalifas rashid rashids or khalid khalids who used to do press conferences on daily basis.

 

[Farah Sohail]

To swat main kya mere chacha g Kinnu bech rahy they Op rah e neejat main?

It seems..tht u cant be polite to anyone.. Why resort to rudeness? Agar swat main kinnu bech rahay thay..tu kia ab zarb e azb main aam bech rahay hain? If the war is all but finished..and won..so i think ppl from Mars are fighting Zarb e azb? Or maybe zarb e azb is also finished and we havent seen any suicide bombing in Pak in years?

 

[gutto786]

Remember millions of dollars that Turkey sucked from us by selling us junk IPP to produce adhoc electricity. Has turkey ever came for our support in 1948,1965, 1971? We do not owe anything to Turkey. Their friendship in on paper and we should acknowledge that on paper.
US failed earlier to pull Pakistan into this mess through Saudi Arabia and now they are using Turkish route. Their are no friends but interests.
Pakistan should strictly stay away from the WAR but we should promise to raise voice for them on every platform and help them morally and as they have been doing for us

 

[Haroon Syed]

Mate, what you are saying is true but i have to add. We are fighting against these terrorists for 3 decades now.... we have immense experience to deal with them.

True but you have not seen that intensity what we have seen. Suicide bombing right here and there will let you know what real terrorism mean. Better take corrective action and move out of this or feel the heat. You people still are quite safe.

Remember millions of dollars that Turkey sucked from us by selling us junk IPP to produce adhoc electricity. Has turkey ever came for our support in 1948,1965, 1971? We do not owe anything to Turkey. Their friendship in on paper and we should acknowledge that on paper.
US failed earlier to pull Pakistan into this mess through Saudi Arabia and now they are using Turkish route. Their are no friends but interests.
Pakistan should strictly stay away from the WAR but we should promise to raise voice for them on every platform and help them morally and as they have been doing for us

NO one will talk about it. Where were they when we were fighting with our eternal enemy who is six time bigger than us ? Now our own people are asking to do anything for them. Do we have a mercenary force ? Don't they have a family to mourn for them or we have a family of orphans who is there to jump in everywhere because we have feeded them ?

 

[Farah Sohail]

Remember millions of dollars that Turkey sucked from us by selling us junk IPP to produce adhoc electricity. Has turkey ever came for our support in 1948,1965, 1971? We do not owe anything to Turkey. Their friendship in on paper and we should acknowledge that on paper.
US failed earlier to pull Pakistan into this mess through Saudi Arabia and now they are using Turkish route. Their are no friends but interests.
Pakistan should strictly stay away from the WAR but we should promise to raise voice for them on every platform and help them morally and as they have been doing for us

Turkey helped Pak, keep our f 16s operational when US sanctioned Pak... As for your argument, tht US is now using turkish route.... Well unlike GCC, i dont think turkey would want our boots on ground because they have an effective military...... Maybe more coordination, and intel, and shared strategy is what they want..and we should provide them with tht...

 

[Solomon2]

We can't at the moment. But pkk is their internal matter. IS on the other hand -

What Pakistan can do is share intelligence about the Pakistanis who may have joined the IS campaign over the past few years.