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Monday, May 16, 2011
ÜMİT ENGİNSOY
ANKARA - Hürriyet Daily News
Turkey's bid to acquire long-range missile and air defense is triggering hot debates as the NATO member country includes Chinese and Russian options on the list of probable buyers. Western experts insist the Russian and the Chinese systems are not compatible with NATO systems
A US partnership between Raytheon and Lockheed Martin is competing for Turkey's long-range missile program with its Patriot-related systems. Hürriyet photo.
A US partnership between Raytheon and Lockheed Martin is competing for Turkey's long-range missile program with its Patriot-related systems. Hürriyet photo.
Chinese and Russian companies eyeing Turkeys multibillion-dollar program to acquire long-range missile and air defense will not be excluded from the contest despite Western criticism, Turkeys procurement chief has said.
Western critics have claimed that the selection of either the Chinese or the Russian firm could compromise NATOs intelligence and security procedures.
The two systems [Russian and Chinese ones] will stay among our options; theres no need to exclude them, Murad Bayar, the head of the Undersecretariat for Defense Industries, Turkeys procurement agency, told the Hürriyet Daily News.
Turkeys choice on this large program is expected to be announced late this year or early next year. Bayar said Turkey would probably not issue a short list before its final decision is made.
One of the competing companies in the ongoing contest for Turkeys national contract is the U.S. partnership between Raytheon and Lockheed Martin, with their Patriot Advanced Capability-3, or PAC-3, systems. Russias Rosoboronexport is marketing the S300 and S400 while China Precision Machinery Export-Import Corp., or CPMIEC, is offering its HQ-9. The Italian-French Eurosam, maker of the SAMP/T Aster 30, is also trying to market its product.
Some Western experts say that since the Russian and the Chinese systems are not compatible with NATO systems, their victory could provide them with access to classified NATO information, and as a result may endanger the alliances procedures.
If, say, the Chinese win the competition, their systems will be in interaction, directly or indirectly, with NATOs intelligence systems, and this may lead to the leak of critical NATO information to the Chinese, albeit inadvertently. So this is dangerous, one Western expert said.
There are technical ways to prevent the Chinese and the Russians from getting access to NATO information, but this would drastically raise the price, the expert said. One explanation is that Turkey itself doesnt plan to select the Chinese or Russian alternatives, but is still retaining them among the options to put pressure on the Americans and the Europeans to curb their prices.
Turkish and NATO systems
Turkeys long-range air and missile defense systems program, T-Loramids, has been designed to counter both enemy aircraft and missiles.
Separately, under a NATO plan approved during a summit meeting in Lisbon in November, the Western alliance will create a collective defense system against potential incoming ballistic missiles from rogue countries. Ankara agreed to the decision only after NATO accepted a Turkish request that Iran or other countries would not be specifically mentioned as potential sources of threat.
NATO now seeks to deploy special X-band radars in Turkish territory for early detection of missiles launched from the region.
Ideally, in the event of such a launch, U.S.-made SM-3 interceptors based on U.S. Aegis destroyers to be deployed in the eastern Mediterranean and possibly in Romania would then be fired to hit the incoming missile mid-flight.
Turkeys national air defense system will be independent and separate from the NATO missile shield. But since both systems are, by nature, anti-ballistic missile schemes and both are supposed to protect Turkish soil, they will have to be integrated in some way.
The United States and some of its Western partners are opposed to the integration of any Russian or Chinese system into the NATO missile shield. American officials already have said that non-NATO elements would cause serious interoperability problems, said one Turkish diplomat.
The governments of the competing companies are also involved in a diplomatic campaign to woo Turkey.
According to a release of highly classified U.S. diplomatic correspondences by the whistleblower website WikiLeaks, U.S. Defense Secretary Robert Gates has lobbied Turkish counterparts to select the U.S.-built PAC-3.
In a Feb. 16, 2010, cable sent to Washington by then-U.S. Ambassador to Ankara James Jeffrey, Gates was quoted as saying nothing can compete with the PAC-3 when it comes to capabilities.
ÜMİT ENGİNSOY
ANKARA - Hürriyet Daily News
Turkey's bid to acquire long-range missile and air defense is triggering hot debates as the NATO member country includes Chinese and Russian options on the list of probable buyers. Western experts insist the Russian and the Chinese systems are not compatible with NATO systems
A US partnership between Raytheon and Lockheed Martin is competing for Turkey's long-range missile program with its Patriot-related systems. Hürriyet photo.
A US partnership between Raytheon and Lockheed Martin is competing for Turkey's long-range missile program with its Patriot-related systems. Hürriyet photo.
Chinese and Russian companies eyeing Turkeys multibillion-dollar program to acquire long-range missile and air defense will not be excluded from the contest despite Western criticism, Turkeys procurement chief has said.
Western critics have claimed that the selection of either the Chinese or the Russian firm could compromise NATOs intelligence and security procedures.
The two systems [Russian and Chinese ones] will stay among our options; theres no need to exclude them, Murad Bayar, the head of the Undersecretariat for Defense Industries, Turkeys procurement agency, told the Hürriyet Daily News.
Turkeys choice on this large program is expected to be announced late this year or early next year. Bayar said Turkey would probably not issue a short list before its final decision is made.
One of the competing companies in the ongoing contest for Turkeys national contract is the U.S. partnership between Raytheon and Lockheed Martin, with their Patriot Advanced Capability-3, or PAC-3, systems. Russias Rosoboronexport is marketing the S300 and S400 while China Precision Machinery Export-Import Corp., or CPMIEC, is offering its HQ-9. The Italian-French Eurosam, maker of the SAMP/T Aster 30, is also trying to market its product.
Some Western experts say that since the Russian and the Chinese systems are not compatible with NATO systems, their victory could provide them with access to classified NATO information, and as a result may endanger the alliances procedures.
If, say, the Chinese win the competition, their systems will be in interaction, directly or indirectly, with NATOs intelligence systems, and this may lead to the leak of critical NATO information to the Chinese, albeit inadvertently. So this is dangerous, one Western expert said.
There are technical ways to prevent the Chinese and the Russians from getting access to NATO information, but this would drastically raise the price, the expert said. One explanation is that Turkey itself doesnt plan to select the Chinese or Russian alternatives, but is still retaining them among the options to put pressure on the Americans and the Europeans to curb their prices.
Turkish and NATO systems
Turkeys long-range air and missile defense systems program, T-Loramids, has been designed to counter both enemy aircraft and missiles.
Separately, under a NATO plan approved during a summit meeting in Lisbon in November, the Western alliance will create a collective defense system against potential incoming ballistic missiles from rogue countries. Ankara agreed to the decision only after NATO accepted a Turkish request that Iran or other countries would not be specifically mentioned as potential sources of threat.
NATO now seeks to deploy special X-band radars in Turkish territory for early detection of missiles launched from the region.
Ideally, in the event of such a launch, U.S.-made SM-3 interceptors based on U.S. Aegis destroyers to be deployed in the eastern Mediterranean and possibly in Romania would then be fired to hit the incoming missile mid-flight.
Turkeys national air defense system will be independent and separate from the NATO missile shield. But since both systems are, by nature, anti-ballistic missile schemes and both are supposed to protect Turkish soil, they will have to be integrated in some way.
The United States and some of its Western partners are opposed to the integration of any Russian or Chinese system into the NATO missile shield. American officials already have said that non-NATO elements would cause serious interoperability problems, said one Turkish diplomat.
The governments of the competing companies are also involved in a diplomatic campaign to woo Turkey.
According to a release of highly classified U.S. diplomatic correspondences by the whistleblower website WikiLeaks, U.S. Defense Secretary Robert Gates has lobbied Turkish counterparts to select the U.S.-built PAC-3.
In a Feb. 16, 2010, cable sent to Washington by then-U.S. Ambassador to Ankara James Jeffrey, Gates was quoted as saying nothing can compete with the PAC-3 when it comes to capabilities.
