Turkey may hold referendum to decide on fate of EU membership

[MarkusS]

million of Syrian refugees wants to go to Europe but Turkey closed border with Bulgaria ... because of The EU and Turkey signed a refugee deal

even when 60,000 Syrian refugees gathered in border province Edirne, Europeans got very anxious, and started wondering about whether all those people would cross into Bulgaria or Greece

also Turkey saved around 100.000 Syrian refugees in Aegean Sea ..

if Turkey block refugee deal with EU ...not only 3 million of Syrian refugees in Turkey .... also millions of refugees from Syria will flow into Europe

then so what You want beam them?

I think you notice that EU doesnt bother at all. After all we did not give you free visa.

 

[Boss Dragun]

As an Alternative way

http://aa.com.tr/en/turkey/erdogan-wants-turkey-in-asean/20877

 

[MarkusS]

really do you think Turkish people cares about free visa ? Turkish people dont give a sh1t about free visa

but We will give a gift to Europe ( millions of refugees ) ... soon very soon enjot it


also EU = Master Germany and slaves (france-italy-spain-polland-greece-others )

you give nothing, you do as ordered. So far it works great for us.

 

[MarkusS]

ERDOGAN says Turkish parliament will block EU refugee deal if no visa-free travel

wait for October

He said wait for june. Then wait for july. Now wait for octobre...you may udnerstand we dont take it serious anymore.

You either fullfill the 72 points or you dont. We wont change our laws for turkey. If you dont meet the criteria then you arent allowed to visit without visa.

 

[MarkusS]

ERDOGAN never said wait for june or july ...... ERDOGAN always said wait for octeber

because of October 2016 as the target date for visa exemption for Turkish citizens

and there were 29 meeting with Turkey between 2013 and 2016 and In December 2013, Turkey and the EU had signed an agreement on a visa liberalization dialogue in parallel with a readmission agreement that would result in illegal migrants who enter the EU from Turkey being returned to Turkey


but stupid traitor ex-prime minister Ahmet Davutoglu said that Turkey expecting Visa-free travel to the Schengen Area by June but Turkey should fullfill the 72 points

wtf 72 points ? Turkey has met 72 criteria on visa deal, no change on terror law

to save your Pkk terrorist friends ? never

we dont need EU and your useless free visa travel ..... EU needs TURKEY


and I am saying again ERDOGAN says Turkish parliament will block EU refugee deal if no visa-free travel

wait for October

You either fullfill the 72 points or dont and get no visa. Those 72 points must be fullfileld by evry country that wants visa free travel with EU. Argentina and Brazil fullfill them, so does Columbia. Turkey wont get a free meal. You either fullfill what all others do or dont get the deal.

We dont need you. You either do as agreed or drop it. Also if you dont need visa free travel in Europe why make a big fuss about it?

As said all EU nations agree on this. Thats why EU stopped talks. You dont make us hostage of your crazy dictator.

 

[Supply&Demand]

Turkey exiting EU discussions will save EU..Because the Turkey is the boogeyman for most Right wing groups in EU..If Turkey leaves..the threat of migration will be severely dented

Turkey exiting EU discussions will save EU..Because the Turkey is the boogeyman for most Right wing groups in EU..If Turkey leaves..the threat of migration will be severely dented

 

[MarkusS]

there were not 72 criteria when Turkey and the EU had signed an agreement on a visa liberalization dialogue in parallel with a readmission agreement that would result in illegal migrants who enter the EU from Turkey being returned to Turkey in 2013

Turkey is not Argentina and Brazil or Columbia ......... Turkey is fighting against terrorism since 1985

also Turkey saved Europe from millions of Syrian refugees .........

.and we dont need your poor indebted and decadent EU ..... even UK kicked your EU

and EU never can use Turkey as a pawn with your liar hypocrite leaders , especially dictator MERKEL

ready for millions of Syrian refugees after October

TURKEY has right to block EU refugee deal

Thats not true. Those 72 points stand since 2013 when turkey signed teh first agreement. Those points are static and never adapted or changed.

Your president lies.

http://ec.europa.eu/dgs/home-affair...y_progress_visa_liberalisation_roadmap_en.pdf

here you can check them. Those points stand since 16 December 2013.

You either fullfill them or not. You signed it.

Do you say you are better than Brazil? Better than Argentina? Better than Columbia? Will you tell them or should we tell them? Even USA fullfills those 72 points. Are you more important than USA?


In the end counts only one thing, does a turk stand to the deal he signed yes or no?

Also poor EU? Turkey has a lower living standard than our poorest member romania.

But to give you one thing...

How exactly should europe change the criteria only for turkey and explain to other nations why turkey is special? And hown should this be explained to the people of europe who are against it?

 

[MarkusS]

Turkey is not Brazil .Argentina or the US ... Turkey is special ..... because of Turkey is fighting against 3 terrorist groups PKK--DHKPC and FETO ....

also TURKEY saved Europe from millions of Syrian refugees ..... what about Brazil .Argentina or the US ?

even EU should say thanks to Turkey

Our National Security more Important than visa free travel ... and Turkey never will change anti-terror law for useless visa free travel

today TURKEY is rising Power and Turkish People dont care about visa free travel

and ok EU can block visa free travel then TURKEY has right to block EU refugee deal in October




""""Turkey has a lower living standard than our poorest member romania.""""""" Nahhhh

even only ISTANBUL is bigger and richer than 12 EU Member Countries

problem is Turkey terrorism since 1985 and poor uneducated Kurdish population ..I remind you every Kurdish Familiy has 8 or 10 childs


on the other hand The recent economic crisis demonstrated many of the weaknesses of EU

and there are over 100 million of poor population in EU ..... EU is over .. no job no future


Romania--Bulgaria--Spain--Croatia-Polland-Portugal--Greece even Italy have more population below poverty line than Turkey

only read but dont cry ok ? POPULATION BELOW POVERTY LINE

Belgium 15.1%
Germany 15.5%
Poland 17.3%
Portugal 18.7%
Croatia 19.5%
Spain 21.1%
Bulgaria 21.8%
Romania 22.4%
Italy 29.9%
Greece 36%

UK 15%
THE US 15.1%
TURKEY 16.9%

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/fields/2046.html

poverty in italy is middle class in turkey. Our poorest region is economically more powerful than your richest.

That said you may understand that it is not in our security interests to allow turks in without visa. Given the fact that turkey supports ISIS its more than likely that turkey smuggles terrorists into Europe.

We too have interests and letting turkey in is none of our interests.

You said you dont want visa free ravel so i dont understand your cries.

Again you fail to adress how european leaders should tell their people who dont want turks in europe without visa why turkey gets a special deal against the interests of the european people.

You arent special. But i can calm you down. Georgia wont get visa free travel as well.

 

[Kutsanan]

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they wont let us in i vote for referendum

 

[MarkusS]

29% of Italian population is poor ...... Spain-Portugal-Greece--Bulgaria-Romania-Italy-etc ae sick men of the EU

even tiny Netherlands has over $2.5 trillion of external debt .. 316% of GDP and $ 226.503 per capita debt

tiny Belgium has around $1.3 trillion of external debt .... 266% of GDP and $ 113,603 per capita debt


and you are still dreaming with rich Europe ..... EU never can pay around $39 trillion of debt

and UK saved itself from indebted and decedant EU



btw TURKEY has only $405 billion of external debt ...... 55% of GDP and only $ 5,216 per capita debt


and only TURKEY build mega projects in Europe

-- $400 billion for Urban renewal project ....over 20 million of new buildings will be built in Turkey until 2023
( Turkish Construction Industry is the 2nd in the World after the China)

-- $62 billion for 3 Nuclear Power Plant
-- $45 billion for 10.000km high spedd rail line ..(the second longest in the world after China )
-- $35 billion for New Istanbul Airport is poised to be the largest airport in the world, with a 150 million passenger annual capacity

-- $23 billion for 217 new Planes for Turkish Airlines until 2020
(Turkish Airlines is the best in Europe in the last 5 years)

and many more


--11 of 100 best Luxury Hotels in the World are in Turkey .... Turkey is the 6th most visited Country in the World with more than 39 million of Tourists

--Turkish Hospitals are like 5 stars Hotels and Turkey is the sixth most visited tourism destination in the world..and Turkey has been the best medical tourism destination after the U.S. and Germany in quality


TURKEY is rising Power and Turkey was lucky NOT to be in the EU during the financial crisis, since it has recovered much more quickly and robustly than Europe

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no more your lies and cheap propaganda dont work .......only Turkey is fighting against ISIS ..not UK...or Germany or Italy

even ISIS attacked Turkish Tank in Turkish Military base -- Bashika-IRAQ with Russian KORNET anti tank missiles

also ISIS many times attacked on Turkish city from Syria with Russian KATYUSHA rockets ...and over 20 civilians died in Turkish cirty

so Turkish Armed Forces killed over 1000 ISIS militants in the last 1 year

also Turkey recognised ISIS as terrorist organization before than EU and the US


even TURKEY warned both Belgium and the Netherlands about airport suicide bomber
..but stupid Belgium ignored warning about ISIS attacker


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Germany-Uk-France-Italy and many more EU member countries suppots and gives weapons to PKK Terrorist to attack Turkey

and your criminal terrorist sporter EU killed thousands of innocent childs-women-civilians in Turkey since 1985

Italy gave military mines to PKK Terrorist ........... Germany gave Missiles to PKK terrorists even the US gave UAV to PKK terrorists

even I am not talking about Russian weapons for PKK terrorists

you are terrorist sporter ..not me understand ?


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and You Europeans cried for helping from TURKEY when 60,000 Syrian refugees gathered in border province Edirne, ...... You Europeans got so very anxious, and started wondering about whether all those people would cross into Bulgaria or Greece

A.MERKEL came for begging to TURKEY 5 times in 4 months .......

I really dont care visa free travel .... I can visit Europe and Russia .....even I more like Russia..the US..Canada..Australia than Europe

even most of Turkish population dont care visa free travel .......this is not 1980s - 1990s this is 2016 and TURKS are getting richer year by year ..also Turkey is one of the most beautiful Country in the World

and I so hate people who wants to go to Europe ..... Europe is over ..no job no money no future .....

and today over 2 million of Europeans are working and living in TURKEY

even there are over 3 million of Syrian and Iraqi refugees in Turkey and they never will return to Syria and Iraq..... and Turkish government and people spent around $20 billion for 3 million of Syrian and Iraqi refugees in Turkey


problem is EU wants to use Turkey as a pawn ...... ok no free visa for the TURKS and no EU refugee deal

cool then there is no problem.

We dont want give you free visa. You dont want free visa. Problem solved. If evry problem could be solved that easy things would be much better on earth.

 

[MarkusS]

yes you dont want give free visa and we dont want refugee deal with EU


we will block EU refugee deal in October and Problem solved

same here. So i dont see why you are so angry?

 

[ultron]

Turkey split into 2 countries. The European part would be allowed to join EU.

 

[MarkusS]

Turkey split into 2 countries. The European part would be allowed to join EU.

Europe decides about this and even then...no.

The EU does not want a border with syria, iraq and iran.

 

[-SINAN-]

Statics of Turkish users

Turkey should end the negotiations with EU
18 votes %78 (Sinan, revojam, T-123456, Kedikesenfare, bsruzm, CrimsonFury,Zulkarneyn,Timur,Trick2UAV, damm1t,Azeri440,Turk-Power,TrMhMt,tesla, TurkeyForever,Kartal1,XILLAX, u.MP,Deliorman)

Turkey should continue the negotiations with EU
5 votes %21 (xenon54, BordoEnes, UkroTurk, Quasar, Wave)

 

[ito]

As far as I know Turkey is not a member of EU, so where is referendum coming here?