TURKEY KEEN TO JOIN CPEC

[wiseone2]

china has bigger pull for Iran than India turkeys announcement will put Iran in a difficult position either dump its ally India or become isolated in Asia..

Iran was isolated by Uncle Sam for 30 years and they survived. they have oil. something Pakistan and turkey do not have

 

[newb3e]

Iran was isolated by Uncle Sam for 30 years and they survived. they have oil. something Pakistan and turkey do not have

well there is a reason they shook hands with USA they want to progress and i dont see why Iran would support India if it can get better access to Eu,Central Asia ,China and Russian markets....dont you think you guys will sit in the corner moaning and regretting you dint become part of CPEC! or ull be posting on internet forums while your neighbors enjoy fruits of economic progression and prosperity!

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

It appears that not joining CPEC is not an option for the Eurasian landmass. Off course there are many other conceivable routes but who'll bell the cat?

 

[Shotgunner51]

The opening of the Hamidiye University in Beijing (1901)

In 1901, Sultan Abdülhamid sent one of his advisors, Enver Pasha, along with numerous Islamic scholars, to China. When they arrived in Shanghai, they were warmly greeted by the Chinese authorities, and especially so by the local Chinese Muslims, who had lived in China for centuries. Sultan Abdülhamid later helped establish a Muslim university in Beijing, called the Peking (Beijing) Hamidiye University.

Turkish participation to CPEC is no surprise - it's a rational outcome..

Very interesting to know of such a historical connection, wish the two nations re-connect in the 21st century!

 

[Menace2Society]

I like your optimism you do realize that US is still the sole superpower, Russia, China and what not though from time to time make noises but in the greater scheme of things they will ditch all of their smaller partners if it really went against US interests. Watching and reading too much sputnik,russia today is not good for health

Besides can you point me to some of the core converging point of interests between these so called new emerging bloc of yours?

We are heading into a multi polar world after 9/11. Asia is tired of war and interference. This bloc is a natural reaction to safeguarding peace and security of the region. Nobody wants another Afghanistan on their hands when Uncle Sam and NATO friends decide to fund their defense contractor buddies.

China is a major influencer and Pakistan is neighbor and key ally. An investment of CPEC's proportion is a strong indicator Beijing is entrusting Pakistan to play a part in their growth and are bringing Pakistan along with them for the journey. Indian hegemony in the region and a US vassal is a common threat. These mutual interests along with geography solidify the relationship.

Iran and Turkey clearly see the benefits of not just economic but socio economic benefits of collaborating more. A connected economic hub is the future. NATO will no longer be able to dictate war and "regime change".

 

[HAIDER]

Only if Iran join Pak-Turkey route...

 

[Shotgunner51]

@Sinopakfriend @Shotgunner51 ....Guyz, Can you highlight the importance of Turkey joining CPEC?

I didn't receive any tag, sorry for late response bro. Hands full now, gonna join discussion later, thanks!

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Question is will China, Russia, Turkey and others take a beating for Pakistan vis-a-vis US?

China will. Turkey would cling on but if the wind turned into gale force, she would let go. China. No. Period.

This does not make Turkey bad. Just that only China can stand upto USA. Russia would ditch Pakistan faster then you count upto 3.

And I am not basing this on emotional surge of hormones. but basing it on real strategic calculus.

 

[wiseone2]

well there is a reason they shook hands with USA they want to progress and i dont see why Iran would support India if it can get better access to Eu,Central Asia ,China and Russian markets....dont you think you guys will sit in the corner moaning and regretting you dint become part of CPEC! or ull be posting on internet forums while your neighbors enjoy fruits of economic progression and prosperity!

CPEC or no CPEC India does business with Russia, EU, China, Turkey, GCC and Iran. We will continue to do so.
Pakistan is the one that has opposed closer trade relations with India.

The only relevance of CPEC is whether Indian goods can access Afghanistan or Central Asia. Pakistan has refused access. That makes CPEC moot. India choose to go with the Chabahar port to accomplish it.

We are heading into a multi polar world after 9/11. Asia is tired of war and interference. This bloc is a natural reaction to safeguarding peace and security of the region. Nobody wants another Afghanistan on their hands when Uncle Sam and NATO friends decide to fund their defense contractor buddies.

China is a major influencer and Pakistan is neighbor and key ally. An investment of CPEC's proportion is a strong indicator Beijing is entrusting Pakistan to play a part in their growth and are bringing Pakistan along with them for the journey. Indian hegemony in the region and a US vassal is a common threat. These mutual interests along with geography solidify the relationship.

Iran and Turkey clearly see the benefits of not just economic but socio economic benefits of collaborating more. A connected economic hub is the future. NATO will no longer be able to dictate war and "regime change".

Afghanistan is a mess because of Pakistan policy of strategic depth. you have been backing some horse or the other for the past 40 years. blaming uncle sam is no good.

 

[Mrc]

CPEC or no CPEC India does business with Russia, EU, China, Turkey, GCC and Iran. We will continue to do so.
Pakistan is the one that has opposed closer trade relations with India.

The only relevance of CPEC is whether Indian goods can access Afghanistan or Central Asia. Pakistan has refused access. That makes CPEC moot. India choose to go with the Chabahar port to accomplish it.



Afghanistan is a mess because of Pakistan policy of strategic depth. you have been backing some horse or the other for the past 40 years. blaming uncle sam is no good.

please leave this thread than.....none of your concern.....

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

China will. Turkey would cling on but if the wind turned into gale force, she would let go. China. No. Period.

This does not make Turkey bad. Just that only China can stand upto USA. Russia would ditch Pakistan faster then you count upto 3.

And I am not basing this on emotional surge of hormones. but basing it on real strategic calculus.

Muhterem Kaptaan Bey, Turkey knows where her best interests lie and where the world is heading to. She also knows the roles she will be entrusted to play. InshaAllah she will not disappoint her well wishers if the past is any reference..

 

[Menace2Society]

Afghanistan is a mess because of Pakistan policy of strategic depth. you have been backing some horse or the other for the past 40 years. blaming uncle sam is no good.

Uncle Sam created Taliban and funded Al Qaeda. Pakistan merely dealt with the mess they left. Lets not go changing history to suit your perverted agenda.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

Question is will China, Russia, Turkey and others take a beating for Pakistan vis-a-vis US? I highly doubt it. Pakistan and as matter of fact all other tiny countries are insignificant when it comes to strategic interests of bigger folks like China, US.



Turkey and Iran on the same side, no! But leadership in both countries keep economics separate from politics, something Pak, India and Afg can learn from.

If I were an Afgan with the Kabul government instead of thinking about Pak or Turkey I'd have studied Vietnam. With >70% divorce rate, the western folks can change their mind in no time and are gone before you know it...

 

[wiseone2]

Uncle Sam created Taliban and funded Al Qaeda. Pakistan merely dealt with the mess they left. Lets not go changing history to suit your perverted agenda.

Uncle Sam funded the Mujahdeen. The ISI choose the factions that got the money. After 1990 Uncle Sam washed their hands. The ISI choose to back the Taliban.

 

[Tamilnadu]

well there is a reason they shook hands with USA they want to progress and i dont see why Iran would support India if it can get better access to Eu,Central Asia ,China and Russian markets....dont you think you guys will sit in the corner moaning and regretting you dint become part of CPEC! or ull be posting on internet forums while your neighbors enjoy fruits of economic progression and prosperity!

If you look at the map Iran already have access to Eu,Central Asia ,China and Russian markets ... Its Pakistan which needs Iran to get access to these markets.....wont you think we had done good with out CPEC all these years....and also as some of your country men said ,we cannt join CPEC with out giving up Kashmir... First lets have fruits then we can deside if they are enjoyable or not,but till then we wish you guys all the best.

Uncle Sam funded the Mujahdeen. The ISI choose the factions that got the money. After 1990 Uncle Sam washed their hands. The ISI choose to back the Taliban.

Dont post off topic posts,most of post by them are like their wish list and not actually whats on the ground.