Turkey honour guard & the Russian pilot dead body in Turkey

[Joe Shearer]

Analysis shows that the plane would have dropped out of the skies if it had been travelling at the speeds indicated by the initial Turkish technical analysis.

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explain it

Look up the technical explanation given by Turkey for the shooting.

Below post is my reply
it is confirmed violation of turk airspace.

It hardly matters if you choose to re-broadcast propaganda. It remains propaganda.

 

[Maarkhoor]

Look up the technical explanation given by Turkey for the shooting.



It hardly matters if you choose to re-broadcast propaganda. It remains propaganda.

Same for those who opposing Turk news.

 

[T-123456]

If the violation of Greek airspace was accidental, or if it was not intended to be provocative and was not a deliberate act, it would not have ended so abruptly and so completely.

The Greek situation is comparable to a warzone?
With the Greeks,it was nothing serious,if you take a look at the Aegean Sea,its normal that such incidents happen.
Syria is a warzone,the threat level is different,isnt it?
There is no threat from Greece,maybe the airforce is on red alert on the other sides(Syrian border,Black Sea region) and there is no time for games with Greece?
Common Joe,you knew all this,strange questions and comparison.

 

[Joe Shearer]

The Greek situation is comparable to a warzone?
With the Greeks,it was nothing serious,if you take a look at the Aegean Sea,its normal that such incidents happen.
Syria is a warzone,the threat level is different,isnt it?
There is no threat from Greece,maybe the airforce is on red alert on the other sides(Syrian border,Black Sea region) and there is no time for games with Greece?
Common Joe,you knew all this,strange questions and comparison.

I wasn't calling it a warzone, or equating the two. I was pointing out that the Turkish government has been acting very arrogant and provocative, and that it took this tension currently prevailing to stop those arrogant acts. It is precisely because of the red alert elsewhere that the pinpricks on Greece ceased.

That does not contradict my statement above. The stoppage may have been due to a red alert. That means it could be stopped earlier, since it was stopped later.

 

[T-123456]

I was pointing out that the Turkish government has been acting very arrogant and provocative, and that it took this tension currently prevailing to stop those arrogant acts.

Arrogant against the Greeks or do you mean something else?

 

[Joe Shearer]

Same for those who opposing Turk news.

Fine, have it your way. That last one was quite in a class by itself - "whatever you say, double of that...." kind of thing. Just repeating what I say and twisting it in your direction is pretty amusing - so go ahead and become a camp follower.

Arrogant against the Greeks or do you mean something else?

Not against the Greeks alone, but all around.

 

[T-123456]

Not against the Greeks alone, but all around.

Joe,i think you have a problem with the current Turkish government,our pilots didnt change attitude all of a sudden,the Russian fighter jets(bombers) were doing this for almost two months,we warned them many times not to.....,sometimes you just have to send a message,if it was the right one?
My answer is ''no'' but you musnt forget that this administration ''does'' first and thinks afterwards.
I guess manipulation works with Erdogan,im sure you get what i meant.

 

[Joe Shearer]

Joe,i think you have a problem with the current Turkish government,our pilots didnt change attitude all of a sudden,the Russian fighter jets(bombers) were doing this for almost two months,we warned them many times not to.....,sometimes you just have to send a message,if it was the right one?
My answer is ''no'' but you musnt forget that this administration ''does'' first and thinks afterwards.
I guess manipulation works with Erdogan,im sure you get what i meant.

I have a major problem with this government, you are right. I am a fervent fan of Ataturk, and the thought that these people are tearing down his legacy fills me with rage. What that great man built was a model for all eastern nations to emulate, and it looks like it is already lost to us.

 

[T-123456]

I have a major problem with this government, you are right. I am a fervent fan of Ataturk, and the thought that these people are tearing down his legacy fills me with rage. What that great man built was a model for all eastern nations to emulate, and it looks like it is already lost to us.

You should take a look at the Turkish section sometimes and see who is who,but never forget that the Turk(even with this government) will always defend his country(see the dilema we are in?).
It is what it is.
We tend to keep such issues,internal.
Btw,nobody can change the values of my country and Ataturks legacy.

 

[Joe Shearer]

You should take a look at the Turkish section sometimes and see who is who,but never forget that the Turk(even with this government) will always defend his country(see the dilema we are in?).
It is what it is.
We tend to keep such issues,internal.

So would I. I know exactly what you mean. Modi or no Modi, BJP or no BJP, RSS or no RSS, if it comes to that, the country comes first. This is not a dilemma, it is natural.

But I gulp hard and keep quiet (as long as I can) when people take potshots at India because of these unlovely louts blackening our reputation in the eyes of the world, and I feel very sorry for patriotic Turks who have to defend the actions of the imbeciles and bigots who are in office at the moment. At the same time, it is clear that it is their duty to defend their country, and I have no issues with that whatsoever.

Bash on.

 

[sady]

I have utmost respect for Turkish people but I think Turkey will come out weaker out of this. West never accepted Turkey, this will make Turkey more dependent on western support. Russia will intensify airstrikes on Turkmen and there won't be much Turkey will be able to do. Russia too will feel the heat and also overstreched. It is a lose.lose situation for both.

 

[matmat26]

Soldiers who died for all States is sacred for us. Russian, Australian, Arab or English. It does not matter. We respect every soldier who died for his enemies even if the Turkish State.


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"Those heroes that shed their blood and lost their lives... You are now lying in the soil of a friendly country. Therefore rest in peace. There is no difference between the Johnnies and the Mehmets to us where they lie side by side now here in this country of ours... you, the mothers, who sent their sons from faraway countries wipe away your tears; your sons are now lying in our bosom and are in peace. After having lost their lives on this land. They have become our sons as well."

In 1934 Atatürk wrote a tribute to the ANZACs killed at Gallipoli

 

[Oksoko]

hen Turk planes crossed the Greek sky and didn't respond anything
Greeks could have shot the planes

Maybe you became fun of Greek after you watched movie called 300

I suggest you first read more articles,books about Greek/Turk islands territorial waters conflict in Aegean Sea and then we can speak about it later with you.

 

[denel]

Russia intervened in Syria because there was a formal request by the present Syrian Government (Which can be termed as legitimate from political perspective) for Russian military assistance in Syria against the Accomplices Of Terrorist- Turkey, ISIL, AL Quaeda etc.. The apparent reasons for intervention is Protection of an old ally - the Assad regime from being overthrown by ISIL, Al Qaeda and several other US-backed rebel outfits.



His death will be avenged with the blood of your fellow terrorists and country men.

Excuse me friend, no legitimate govt gasses its own people and uses barrel bombs on civilians. get your head into a reality. Assad junior is following the cue from his father who also wiped of villages who challenged him.
Putin is leveraging his tactics from Caucasus - scorched earth policy but in a distant area.
The excuse of being invited is a falacy, the same was used by Soviets when they were in Afghanistan. Dont be surprised if history repeats itself.

 

[-SINAN-]

His death will be avenged with the blood of your fellow terrorists and country men.

Waiting.....