Turkey faces big losses as Russia sanctions bite

[Aepsilons]

not to mention the first tourists of 2016 in Turkey were Russians

To be honest the government-government fallout won't necessarily change the people to people interaction and interests between Russia and Turkey.

@Sinan @xenon54

My new business plan is to export high-quality Diyarbakir watermelons to Japan.

Now it’s time for me to raise the funding to get my business off the ground. Who wants to support me?

"Büyüklüğü 40 kiloyu bulan Diyarbakır karpuzlarının tanesi yurtdışına 100 dolardan satılıyor."

That's some seriously GOOD business proposal man !

@Azeri440

You know, bro, Japan and Russia haven't had a peace treaty even tho the war ended 70 years ago. Yet the Russians are one of largest oil and gas suppliers , haha. And our crossborder trade is over $30 Billion per year. Its mostly Japan buying their oil and gas, coal, wood , etc. On a people to people level -- many of our folks go to their far east territories like kamchaktya , vladivostok, sakhalin for vacation. And there are even talks of Russia and Japan having non-visa status for visitors. So political differences is really relative.

End of the day: Money talks.

 

[-------]

 

[Aepsilons]

Okay for those of us that don't understand Turkish, what did she say?

 

[-------]

Okay for those of us that don't understand Turkish, what did she say?

Why didn’t Russia ban Turkish lemons?

 

[-SINAN-]

Yes they are super expensive, but in some parts of Japan it is normal to be that expensive, especially when its not in season. Japan is very mountainous, bro, so we cannot grow our own goods that much. We depend on importing it from countries like Indonesia, Vietnam, Philippine, India, Pakistan. What's popular now is Pakistani and Indian mangoes, they usually go quick during mango season. I think its not that expensive now , the prices are $5 per pound?



Haha, not rich, just average bro. Man i wish Japan had more land and more fertile soil like Turkey and rest of mainland Europe / Asia where you guys grow everything!!!

Heck even Koreans, too, have to import stuff hahaha @sEoulman556

Am i right Kankukojin buddy? @sEoulman556



wow, the tomato juice looks delicious ! ha ha ha !

I think it's better to produce high-tech.

Mate, i saw some of your discussion with my Korean bro. Why can't you get along....you are a very polite and elegant guy. He is like that also....did something happened between you guys.

kay for those of us that don't understand Turkish, what did she say?

Kind of mocking Russians.

 

[Aepsilons]

Mate, i saw some of your discussion with my Korean bro. Why can't you get along....you are a very polite and elegant guy. He is like that also....did something happened between you guys.

hahaha, to be honest i think @sEoulman556 just gets very emotional when it involves Japan, and for me i really have no dislike or disapproval of South Korea, but it seems that from my interaction with Korean nationalists , whenever they interact with Japanese patriots, the thought of the war and history results in their blood to boil. And its understandable since Korea, for a long time, had ceased to exist and was part of the Japanese Empire and divided into Japanese provinces. In fact their people were even forced to adopt Japanese names and take up Japanese identity , and it was almost forbidden for them to even be proud of their Korean identity. So I can understand the Korean animosity and antagonism towards Japan, it is understandable.

However i think relations between @sEoulman556 and I have recently somewhat improved since we were able to discuss with civility and respect in the thread "Korean Sejong the Great Destroyer" with relative decorum. I'm trying to be better with him and to try to understand his point of view, even excusing his emotional responses to me most of the time. I do honestly want to build more rapport with him since he seems to know a lot about Korean military and high tech information. And he seems to be a good guy from how i see how he interacts with Indonesian, Turkish, Pakistani, Indian and even Russian and American members.

So yea, bro, hopefully Mr. @sEoulman556 will be more amicable with me, too.

 

[-SINAN-]

@Sinan @xenon54

My new business plan is to export high-quality Diyarbakir watermelons to Japan.

Now it’s time for me to raise the funding to get my business off the ground. Who wants to support me?

"Büyüklüğü 40 kiloyu bulan Diyarbakır karpuzlarının tanesi yurtdışına 100 dolardan satılıyor."

Yeah, seems like we are at fault at this.

We are world second watermelon producer after China...but exports are only %5 of the total production....we seriously need to export these.... Big bro @T-123456 would know it better.

 

[Eminent Mainstream Media]

For $ 2 I can buy 8kg Tomato here these days- When tomato production is very low we can still by 2kg tomato for $ 2-

 

[-SINAN-]

hahaha, to be honest i think @sEoulman556 just gets very emotional when it involves Japan, and for me i really have no dislike or disapproval of South Korea, but it seems that from my interaction with Korean nationalists , whenever they interact with Japanese patriots, the thought of the war and history results in their blood to boil. And its understandable since Korea, for a long time, had ceased to exist and was part of the Japanese Empire and divided into Japanese provinces. In fact their people were even forced to adopt Japanese names and take up Japanese identity , and it was almost forbidden for them to even be proud of their Korean identity. So I can understand the Korean animosity and antagonism towards Japan, it is understandable.

However i think relations between @sEoulman556 and I have recently somewhat improved since we were able to discuss with civility and respect in the thread "Korean Sejong the Great Destroyer" with relative decorum. I'm trying to be better with him and to try to understand his point of view, even excusing his emotional responses to me most of the time. I do honestly want to build more rapport with him since he seems to know a lot about Korean military and high tech information. And he seems to be a good guy from how i see how he interacts with Indonesian, Turkish, Pakistani, Indian and even Russian and American members.

So yea, bro, hopefully Mr. @sEoulman556 will be more amicable with me, too.

I see, it's something like Ottoman Empire - Greece, Greek - Turkish relations....can understand that....

Anyways i hope both @sEoulman556 and you, Korean and Japanese people can get along in the future. I admire and respect both nations very much.

 

[Eminent Mainstream Media]

haha, yes, that's true there are some watermelons that can cost as much as £150 ! But for the more affordable watermelons we can get it cheap for £15 or so.

Bro, some people even buy sweet melons that are ¥31,000 , thats about $250-260 USD. Per melon, lol!!!

For $ 250 you can buy a small pickup truck full of water melons here- some people are looting the Japanese very bad- lol

 

[Aepsilons]

See it's something like Ottoman Empire - Greece, Greek - Turkish relations....can understand that....

Absolutely it is very similar to the Ottoman - European interaction in history. The Ottoman Empire was the military threat of continental Europe for a long time, and understandably because the Ottoman Empire had then conquered most of Ukraine, the entire Crimea, all of present day Moldova, Romania, Bulgaria, Greece, Macedonia, Albania, parts of Serbia, Austria, parts of Italy, and all of the Middle East.

Most of these countries in southern and eastern Europe were part of the Ottoman Empire for nearly half a millenia, so there is some kind of deep historical animosity of Turks since the Turks were equated with imperial invaders.

The same goes with Japan in context to Korea and China, bro. Japan had attempted to invade Korea and practically conquered them in the 16th century, but we were beaten back after Hideyoshi died. Mind you the Chinese helped the Koreans against us in the 16th century as if it was not for the Ming Dynasty, Korea was already conquered.

Japan later intervened again in the 19th century when we defeated the Chinese in the Sino Japanese War , and after defeating the Russians in the Russo Japanese War, we made the Chinese and Russians concede Korea as a Japanese protectorate. Then in 1910 we formally subsumed Korea and it became part of the Japanese Empire, the same for Taiwan and other Chinese territories.

So for the Korean mindset, the Japanese or "ILBON" as they refer to us, they always see as an imperial invader, with lust to take over Korea again. It is absurd and emotionally driven generalization, of course, but given Japan's historical interventionalism in Korean peninsula, their fears are not without warrant.

 

[T-123456]

We are world second watermelon producer after China...but exports are only %5 of the total production....we seriously need to export these.... Big bro @T-123456 would know it better.

Most of whats left for export,already goes to Western Europe(Germany,France,Belgium,the Netherlands etc).

 

[babul]

this is still a debate who is bigger loser over this sanction. one thing are pretty sure Russia and turkey both going to loss over this sanction . but one thing turkey have gain over this is turkey becoming to world stage economically and militarily .
world 2nd powerful military like Russian done nothing after turkey shot down there fighter jet. this huge gain by turkey. in fact sanction is just please and cool down Russian people rather than punishing turkey.

 

[-SINAN-]

Absolutely it is very similar to the Ottoman - European interaction in history. The Ottoman Empire was the military threat of continental Europe for a long time, and understandably because the Ottoman Empire had then conquered most of Ukraine, the entire Crimea, all of present day Moldova, Romania, Bulgaria, Greece, Macedonia, Albania, parts of Serbia, Austria, parts of Italy, and all of the Middle East.

Most of these countries in southern and eastern Europe were part of the Ottoman Empire for nearly half a millenia, so there is some kind of deep historical animosity of Turks since the Turks were equated with imperial invaders.

The same goes with Japan in context to Korea and China, bro. Japan had attempted to invade Korea and practically conquered them in the 16th century, but we were beaten back after Hideyoshi died. Mind you the Chinese helped the Koreans against us in the 16th century as if it was not for the Ming Dynasty, Korea was already conquered.

Japan later intervened again in the 19th century when we defeated the Chinese in the Sino Japanese War , and after defeating the Russians in the Russo Japanese War, we made the Chinese and Russians concede Korea as a Japanese protectorate. Then in 1910 we formally subsumed Korea and it became part of the Japanese Empire, the same for Taiwan and other Chinese territories.

So for the Korean mindset, the Japanese or "ILBON" as they refer to us, they always see as an imperial invader, with lust to take over Korea again. It is absurd and emotionally driven generalization, of course, but given Japan's historical interventionalism in Korean peninsula, their fears are not without warrant.

I need to read more about Japanese history...it's very intriguing...i'm off to wikipedia now.

 

[Aepsilons]

I need to read more about Japanese history...it's very intriguing...i'm off to wikipedia now.

Turks and Japanese have very similar beginnings, and apex, my friend. Civilization-wise, we are a fusion of many races, ethnic groups. Japanese, like Turks, originally came from mainland Asia , and migrated east and west, respectively. Turks migrated West, whereas we Japanese went east into the islands.

We both absorved civilization cues and culture from neighboring powers; Japan absorbed much from China and to an extent Korea, whereas Turks absorbed much from Abbasid Caliphate, Arab, Persian and Greek culture. Then we made it into our own. We both have very militaristic characteristics; Japan was at war with itself for almost half a millenia in the Sengoku Jidai; thereby perfected its killing culture. Ottoman Empire was the conqueror of 10 directions, subduing the entire middle east and threatening even the heart of Europa.

I suppose Japanese and Turks have a migratory nature, adaptive focus, and a taste for...militarism. hehehe.

Turks and Japanese can be peaceful, naturally, but when we go to war, we can be a bit too 'brutal' on our enemies, yes? lol.