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Turkey and Iran condemn UAE for getting in bed with Israel, is Pakistan asleep?

Easy comments to make from the USA. You speak as if Pakistan recognized Israel. This crisis has to be handled with diplomacy not emotions.

If being silent is what Pakistan's diplomacy looks like, then we are in big trouble.

UAE had recognized Israel informally for some time, but they were publicly silent for many years.

Pakistan is publicly silent and it is very worrying if Pakistan has quietly recognized Israeli occupation like UAE by not saying anything. Countries like Turkey that are enemies of Israel were not afraid to condemn UAE while Arabs that support Israel were silent just like Pakistan.

Pakistan is literally going down exact same road as UAE. We have not said anything against this move and are silent just like UAE was silent. Next thing you know, UAE recognizes Israel. Pakistan being silent on this issue is a bad sign.
 
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I must say that I cannot help but see the events of recent unfolding and Pakistan's deafening silence on it.

For a country that prides itself on supporting Muslims and the Islamic cause, Pakistan is absolutely silent on the one issue that defines oppression of Muslims in the world.

I hate how people on PDF always say that Pakistan always stands up for Muslims, but when the time actually comes to do it.......silence.

Honestly this is a terrible feeling as a Pakistani. Our government is witnessing blatant injustices by oppressors like the UAE and refuses to condemn it, at best looking the other way. UAE is so shameless that they feel like they can get in bed with Israel in broad daylight and they're not even pretending to hide it. UAE boasts about normalizing with Israel and they feel great about normalizing relations with a country that is a stated enemy of Muslims. Pakistan has conveyed through utter silence on the issue that they have seen the normalization of Israel and UAE and are ok with it, not feeling the need or any sense of urgency to even put out a simple statement condemning the UAE's tacit acceptance of an occupier that has locked up Palestinians as worse than animals.

Meanwhile, Turkey and Iran have blasted UAE for this move. Is Pakistan asleep? Not a word from Pakistan on a development that is simply too big to ignore unless Pakistan Foreign Office is dumber than a bag of rocks.

Which leaves 2 scenarios:

1. Pakistan doesn't have balls to criticize UAE for getting in bed with Israel
2. Pakistan is ok with UAE-Israel relations

Things like this make me ashamed of such a government that desires justice for Kashmir but either cannot or does not even have the sense to state the obvious when it comes to Muslims oppressed by Israel and hypocritical Khaleejis.

Turkey and Iran have taken a strong stand against this, where is Pakistan?

No wonder Pakistan struggles to get support on Kashmir, why would anyone support us when our voice is silent on the issues that matter. Pakistan claims to be a champion of Muslims but we cannot even put out a simple statement condemning UAE for normalizing an occupation that clearly deserves to be condemned?

Why should Pakistan get involved in middle east problems?

Pakistan should only care about Kashmir and Khalistan.
 
Name me one Muslim country which genuinely cares about Kashmir. There is simply no diplomatic solution to Kashmir issue and no country out there is willing to even raise voice on the issue. We are alone in this fight sooner we realize it the better.

People will care about Kashmir if we take a stand on other important issues.

Obviously no one cares about Kashmir right now because we are ignoring issues like this.

Pakistan does not have to be alone in the fight for Kashmir but we are not doing much to improve it.
 
Pakistan will not get support on Kashmir until we take a strong stand on other important issues that matter.

How hard is this to understand? Kashmir does not exist in a vacuum independent of other issues.

The silence of the world on Kashmir is directly related to the fact that Pakistan is silent on other issues like this.

Fighting Muslim oppression is not a part time job.
pakistan will not get جھانٹ of kashmir even if all the world گرم توے pr beth jaay . only our guns will decide fate of kashmir . fazool ki garmi sardi chor ker aram se beth jao :lol:
 
People will care about Kashmir if we take a stand on other important issues.

Obviously no one cares about Kashmir right now because we are ignoring issues like this.

Pakistan does not have to be alone in the fight for Kashmir but we are not doing much to improve it.

When you have China supporting Pakistan on Kashmir why do you need support from middle east countries?
 
Who is building the Arab front against Turkey?

İbrahim Karagül

Non-Arab Muslim countries are gaining power while Arab Muslim countries, especially those under the influence of Gulf Arabs (i.e. the United Arab Emirates (UAE), Saudi Arabia, and Egypt under the administration of Abdel-Fattah el-Sisi) are not only regressing, but in fact collapsing.

Non-Muslim Arab countries are rapidly leaving the West’s custody, escaping tutelage, unveiling their own dynamics, while Arab countries are further entrenching into Western protection, building even more dependent relations.

Non-Arab Muslim countries are defending the Islamic world, and the Muslim community’s rights even more fervently, while the Arab countries in question are running like the wind, far away from these claims and legacies. The new UAE-led front is doing this explicitly, and openly rejecting the Islamic political legacy.

UAE, Saudi Arabia, Sisi bringing Western troops to the region

Non-Arab Muslim countries completely reject the West’s “front country” position it has assumed in the Middle East and Asia. Once upon a time, Turkey, Pakistan, and Indonesia formed the “South Zone” against Soviet and Chinese communism and protected the West’s interests. These three countries have come a long way since then.

However, Arab countries, especially Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Egypt, are turning themselves into garrisons against the countries that the U.S., Europe and Israel deem as threats in our region. The relations they established both in our region and in South Asia are deploying Western powers to those regions, sending a threatening message.

Attacking those within using foreign power

As non-Arab Muslim countries are striving to combat foreign attacks, Arab Muslim countries are fighting among themselves and their regions – and while doing this, they are calling Western countries to their aid.

Non-Arab Muslim countries are building a power inside-out, struggling, activating their own strengths, while Arab Muslim countries are attacking from abroad, reinforcing their own aptitudes and strengths with foreign power.

Why do wars always take place on Arab territories?

The war between Iran and Iraq was an Arab-Persian war. The 1991 invasion of Iraq was really an Arab-Persian war. The 2003 invasion of Iraq was also characteristically the same. The Arab world lost in all of these wars and invasions. All the wars that took place in our region during the last three decades have occurred on Arab lands, and these wars were never won.

Arab weakness is not the reason underlying this but rather the unilateral dependency relations, which their administrations establish with the West. This relation has almost always been against the Arab people and their countries.

Two princes, one dictator: An apocalypse is on its way

This dependency relationship is now being renewed. It is becoming even more destructive. It is now being led by Mohammed bin Zayed (UAE), Mohammed bin Salman (Saudi Arabia), and Sisi (Egypt).

They initially used Arab regimes against Iran. Yet, this form of exploitation was based not on their interests, but rather on Israel’s priorities and U.S. plans. They have been fighting within this context for three decades and always losing.

This is because their defeat is being pursued. Those exploiting them are also depleting their resources.

Thus, the Arab-Persian border was drawn back all the way from the Iran-Iraq border to the Mediterranean. They lost Iraq and Syria, and they are now going to lose Lebanon and Yemen.

Now the ‘Turkey front’ has been launched: An undeclared war!

This time around, the same mentality activated Arab power against Turkey. They established an “Anti-Turkey Front” comprising of the UAE, Saudi Arabia, Gulf countries, and Sisi’s Egypt.

This front attempted unfathomable moves against Turkey in the entire region. Managing terrorist organizations, economic attacks, assassinations and executions included, from Africa to South Asia, it is trying to weaken Turkey in every field.

They are carrying on an undeclared war with Turkey in Libya, in the East Mediterranean, in the Caucasus, in the Persian Gulf, around the Red Sea, and in Central Africa. While they do this, they are building partnerships with Israel, France, the U.S., Europe and, in fact, with Greece and the Greek Cypriot Administration.

Pakistan is the next target

It is quite interesting that the same front has recently been targeting Pakistan. Saudi Arabia and the UAE established a rapport with India and started targeting Pakistan, which is celebrating its founding today.

Joint investments are being annulled, support given is being retracted, and India’s plans regarding Kashmir are being promised explicit support.

Why?

After Turkey, are these Arab countries going to be used against Pakistan as well? Which countries will follow? Indonesia? It is highly likely.

After Shiite-Sunni war, a Sunni civil war is now on the horizon!

Something sinister lies behind every move. How so?

A project titled, “Civil Democratic Islam: Partners, Resources and Strategies,” was published in 2003 in the U.S. It entirely explains how the “Islamic civil war” could be broken out.

A year later, another 567-page report titled, “U.S. Strategy in the Muslim World,” was published. This report discusses the details of the Islamic civil war. Among the fronts to be formed, first is the Shiite-Sunni war, while the second front is identified as Arab Muslims against non-Arab Muslims.

The Arab streets must awaken!

This is what is happening today. The UAE, Saudi Arabian, and Egyptian regimes were utilized for the Shiite-Sunni war. They have now been driven to the ground for a civil war among Sunnis, and Turkey was presented to them as the primary target.

These regimes lost in every war and destroyed the region. They are going to lose this war as well.

However, the Arab people, its patriots should know that this is nothing other than preparation for suicide. They set the trap on Arab lands and countries. These leaders, these regimes are going to drag the Arab region to destruction and carve up Arab lands into city states. Let us reiterate: Why is it that non-Arab Muslim countries are gaining power while Arab Muslim countries are constantly losing power?

The Arab streets must wake up now!

We must resist against the new colonialism!

https://www.yenisafak.com/en/column...uilding-the-arab-front-against-turkey-2047558
 
People will care about Kashmir if we take a stand on other important issues.

Obviously no one cares about Kashmir right now because we are ignoring issues like this.

Pakistan does not have to be alone in the fight for Kashmir but we are not doing much to improve it.

Issues like Palestine and Kashmir dont get solved with diplomatic niceties. Time has passed to shore up support over the issue of Kashmir. Every one from Nawaz, Benazir, Zardari to musharaf have made too many compromises over past 2-3 decades over kashmir issue just so we could be buddy buddy with India but in the End they churned out a Modi from pile of Garbage. Lets focus on realistic things like fixing our internal issue and economy.
 
When you have China supporting Pakistan on Kashmir why do you need support from middle east countries?

We don't need support of UAE and Saudis, we need backing of Turkey and Iran who actually support us in Kashmir.

Best way to get backing of Turkey and Iran was to condemn UAE for normalization with Israel so that Turkey and Iran will increase their support for Kashmir.
 
If being silent is what Pakistan's diplomacy looks like, then we are in big trouble.

We are on the right track for the first time, I want to see full diplomatic relations with the state of Israel, we have given a massive advantage to India by towing Arab lines as our foreign policy.

And stop with this none sense that if we care they will help us on Kashmir issue, we have been vocal about anything that went wrong anywhere in the Muslims world and all we go in return was dead silence for last 70 plus years now all of sudden you saying things will change if we start the old failed policies again......
 
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uae was not independent country from the beginning and they depend on u.s for their security so this was expected from them as their economy is badly affected from covid19 and need loans from jewish bankers
 
Issues like Palestine and Kashmir dont get solved with diplomatic niceties. Time has passed to shore up support over the issue of Kashmir. Every one from Nawaz, Benazir, Zardari to musharaf have made too many compromises over past 2-3 decades over kashmir issue just so we could be buddy buddy with India but in the End they churned out a Modi from pile of Garbage. Lets focus on realistic things like fixing our internal issue and economy.

Yeah but Pakistan isn't even doing the minimum to reasonably expect this issue to get solved.

Pakistan should at least pretend to get some support on Kashmir and if it doesn't work then at least we can say we tried it. But if we haven't even tried, then of course its not gonna work.
 
Who is building the Arab front against Turkey?

İbrahim Karagül

Non-Arab Muslim countries are gaining power while Arab Muslim countries, especially those under the influence of Gulf Arabs (i.e. the United Arab Emirates (UAE), Saudi Arabia, and Egypt under the administration of Abdel-Fattah el-Sisi) are not only regressing, but in fact collapsing.

Non-Muslim Arab countries are rapidly leaving the West’s custody, escaping tutelage, unveiling their own dynamics, while Arab countries are further entrenching into Western protection, building even more dependent relations.

Non-Arab Muslim countries are defending the Islamic world, and the Muslim community’s rights even more fervently, while the Arab countries in question are running like the wind, far away from these claims and legacies. The new UAE-led front is doing this explicitly, and openly rejecting the Islamic political legacy.

UAE, Saudi Arabia, Sisi bringing Western troops to the region

Non-Arab Muslim countries completely reject the West’s “front country” position it has assumed in the Middle East and Asia. Once upon a time, Turkey, Pakistan, and Indonesia formed the “South Zone” against Soviet and Chinese communism and protected the West’s interests. These three countries have come a long way since then.

However, Arab countries, especially Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Egypt, are turning themselves into garrisons against the countries that the U.S., Europe and Israel deem as threats in our region. The relations they established both in our region and in South Asia are deploying Western powers to those regions, sending a threatening message.

Attacking those within using foreign power

As non-Arab Muslim countries are striving to combat foreign attacks, Arab Muslim countries are fighting among themselves and their regions – and while doing this, they are calling Western countries to their aid.

Non-Arab Muslim countries are building a power inside-out, struggling, activating their own strengths, while Arab Muslim countries are attacking from abroad, reinforcing their own aptitudes and strengths with foreign power.

Why do wars always take place on Arab territories?

The war between Iran and Iraq was an Arab-Persian war. The 1991 invasion of Iraq was really an Arab-Persian war. The 2003 invasion of Iraq was also characteristically the same. The Arab world lost in all of these wars and invasions. All the wars that took place in our region during the last three decades have occurred on Arab lands, and these wars were never won.

Arab weakness is not the reason underlying this but rather the unilateral dependency relations, which their administrations establish with the West. This relation has almost always been against the Arab people and their countries.

Two princes, one dictator: An apocalypse is on its way

This dependency relationship is now being renewed. It is becoming even more destructive. It is now being led by Mohammed bin Zayed (UAE), Mohammed bin Salman (Saudi Arabia), and Sisi (Egypt).

They initially used Arab regimes against Iran. Yet, this form of exploitation was based not on their interests, but rather on Israel’s priorities and U.S. plans. They have been fighting within this context for three decades and always losing.

This is because their defeat is being pursued. Those exploiting them are also depleting their resources.

Thus, the Arab-Persian border was drawn back all the way from the Iran-Iraq border to the Mediterranean. They lost Iraq and Syria, and they are now going to lose Lebanon and Yemen.

Now the ‘Turkey front’ has been launched: An undeclared war!

This time around, the same mentality activated Arab power against Turkey. They established an “Anti-Turkey Front” comprising of the UAE, Saudi Arabia, Gulf countries, and Sisi’s Egypt.

This front attempted unfathomable moves against Turkey in the entire region. Managing terrorist organizations, economic attacks, assassinations and executions included, from Africa to South Asia, it is trying to weaken Turkey in every field.

They are carrying on an undeclared war with Turkey in Libya, in the East Mediterranean, in the Caucasus, in the Persian Gulf, around the Red Sea, and in Central Africa. While they do this, they are building partnerships with Israel, France, the U.S., Europe and, in fact, with Greece and the Greek Cypriot Administration.

Pakistan is the next target

It is quite interesting that the same front has recently been targeting Pakistan. Saudi Arabia and the UAE established a rapport with India and started targeting Pakistan, which is celebrating its founding today.

Joint investments are being annulled, support given is being retracted, and India’s plans regarding Kashmir are being promised explicit support.

Why?

After Turkey, are these Arab countries going to be used against Pakistan as well? Which countries will follow? Indonesia? It is highly likely.

After Shiite-Sunni war, a Sunni civil war is now on the horizon!

Something sinister lies behind every move. How so?

A project titled, “Civil Democratic Islam: Partners, Resources and Strategies,” was published in 2003 in the U.S. It entirely explains how the “Islamic civil war” could be broken out.

A year later, another 567-page report titled, “U.S. Strategy in the Muslim World,” was published. This report discusses the details of the Islamic civil war. Among the fronts to be formed, first is the Shiite-Sunni war, while the second front is identified as Arab Muslims against non-Arab Muslims.

The Arab streets must awaken!

This is what is happening today. The UAE, Saudi Arabian, and Egyptian regimes were utilized for the Shiite-Sunni war. They have now been driven to the ground for a civil war among Sunnis, and Turkey was presented to them as the primary target.

These regimes lost in every war and destroyed the region. They are going to lose this war as well.

However, the Arab people, its patriots should know that this is nothing other than preparation for suicide. They set the trap on Arab lands and countries. These leaders, these regimes are going to drag the Arab region to destruction and carve up Arab lands into city states. Let us reiterate: Why is it that non-Arab Muslim countries are gaining power while Arab Muslim countries are constantly losing power?

The Arab streets must wake up now!

We must resist against the new colonialism!

https://www.yenisafak.com/en/column...uilding-the-arab-front-against-turkey-2047558

I wish more Pakistanis understood this
 

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