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TTP ready for talks with Pakistan: Maulvi Faqir

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What I meant was, YRG said disarmament was not a pre-condition for talks as carrying arms was a tribal culture and Pakisyan respects that.

So today TTP is not supported by RAW, MOSSAD, NORTHERN ALLIANCE? depth of hypocrisy!

Looks like the 'offenses' were not so sucessful after all.

It may well be the Army mouthpieces in politics who are behind this suggestion and which was adopted by all parties.
 
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So today TTP is not supported by RAW, MOSSAD, NORTHERN ALLIANCE? depth of hypocrisy!

Well, you are free to criticise anything pertaining ISI but if you think TTP is not being supported by agencies you mentioned then it looms you are living in a fool's paradise. Actual hypocrisy comes into account when you choose Taliban of your choice for negotiations. And above all its not Pakistan who presented this offer of talks, mind it.
 
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Well, you are free to criticise anything pertaining ISI but if you think TTP is not being supported by agencies you mentioned then it looms you are living in a fool's paradise. Actual hypocrisy comes into account when you choose Taliban of your choice for negotiations. And above all its not Pakistan who presented this offer of talks, mind it.

PESHAWAR: Tehreek-e -Taliban Pakistan (TTP) welcomed Prime Minister Yousaf Raza Gilani’s statement regarding talks with militants on Monday.
 
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What I meant was, YRG said disarmament was not a pre-condition for talks as carrying arms was a tribal culture and Pakisyan respects that.

let me say you have some incredible sources in Pakistan..
 
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PESHAWAR: Tehreek-e -Taliban Pakistan (TTP) welcomed Prime Minister Yousaf Raza Gilani’s statement regarding talks with militants on Monday.

Please refer to my earlier posts in this thread, you'll get my point.
 
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Fool me once shame on you fool me twice shame on me.

IF TTP really wanted to negotiate they will surrender unconditionally then and only then there should be any negotiations.
 
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TTP will join hands with Pakistan against USA....
it wasnt a war between them and pakistan.....it was a war between the
and USA via Pakistan.....
 
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I say tell the TTP to come and answer to all those people it has killed in Blasts..
let them take their revenge on them.. and then we will talk.
 
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TTP ready for talks with Pakistan? However its not any government its ANP........


If govt talks to these criminals , Then it will be betrayal of the jawans serving in the armed forces

and the brave shaheeds of the nation.

Peace

If they do get into talks with the government, it will be the first defeat for Pakistan. But it will not stop at just a defeat, it will start a chain reaction among all the insurgents groups. It will culminate into a very strong motivation for all such groups to get as ruthless as they can to get their holds on chunks of areas under their control.

The first piece of such strong motivation came from the SWAT deal in 2009. Second came from the Pakistan Army's refusal to go in NW under any circumstances. Entire NW is under the hold of Haqqanis who enjoy all the "taxes" they can collect, tapping the money that should have gone to the government.

Now every group is looking for similar hold in their area, and will give a very strong, and worse - a valid reason, for those others to rise and be fierce because the government that buckles once, will buckle again and again.
 
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Those who are getting sentimental regarding talks with TTP read the clause no 3 of APC resolution.

http://www.defence.pk/forums/national-political-issues/132973-apc-resolution_complete.html#post2163378

Also read the clause 10.

It tells us about the must implementation of previous parliament resolution. And we all know that the previous resolution have made it clearly to stop drone strikes with in Pakistani territory. It means Pakistan army will take action against it when the time suits them.
 
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ISLAMABAD: The Haqqani network has started its efforts to push the Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) to negotiate a peace deal with the Pakistan government.

A delegation of Pakistani tribal elders recently met Khalil Haqqani, brother of Sirajudin Haqqani, in Paktia province of eastern Afghanistan and requested him to use his influence to make peace between anti-Pakistan and pro-Pakistan militants in North Waziristan. These elders were worried about mounting pressure from the US on Pakistan to start another operation in North Waziristan. Khalil Haqqani first consulted Sirajudin Haqqani and then sent messages to some TTP leaders not to fight against Pakistani forces.
It is also learnt that the TTP leadership has yet not reached any decision. TTP head Hakimullah Mehsud is reportedly hiding somewhere in the Orakzai area. He is reluctant to trust the Pakistani security establishment but has recently sent a message to JUI leader Maulana Fazlur Rehman that “we can think of making peace with the Pakistan Army but without surrendering.”
Maulana Fazlur Rehman shared this offer with government officials but the government wanted some mandate from opposition parties to restart peace efforts with the TTP. Some elements in TTP do not trust Pakistani security establishment, especially ISI. These disgruntled commanders of TTP are hiding in Kunar province of Afghanistan.

According to some credible sources in the Afghan media these commanders have established contacts with Afghan Intelligence officials. Sources in Kabul have claimed that Maulvi Faqir Muhammad, Hakimullah Mehsud’s deputy, is living in an area close to Asadabad, the headquarters of Kunar province. He recently travelled from Kabul to Delhi. Afghan intelligence arranged a meeting of some local journalists with Faqir Muhammad recently in Asadabad.

He had turned against the Pakistan Army after the drone strikes in Bajaur in 2006. He joined hands with Maulana Fazlullah of Swat and now they are fighting against Pakistan Army in Swat and Bajaur. His fighters recently abducted some children from Bajaur and imprisoned them in Kunar under the supervision of Afghan intelligence.

Maulvi Faqir was also involved in attacks on some Pakistani border posts in Dir. He conducted those attacks from Kunar province where US troops are present in heavy numbers. Maulvi Faqir is opposing a peace deal with Pakistani government while another important TTP commander from South Waziristan, Maulana Waliur Rehman Mehsud, is in favour of such a deal.
Waliur Rehman also supported a peace deal between Shias and Sunnis of Kurram in February 2011 which was brokered by Haqqani Network. Initially TTP opposed the efforts started by Khalil Haqqani because some local TTP commanders in Kurram were involved in crimes like kidnapping for ransom and they were not interested in any peace deal.


Khalil Haqqani used an old confidant from Kurram, Fazal Saeed Haqqani, as a bargaining chip and he parted ways with TTP. Fazal Saeed Haqqani established his own group and expelled all criminals from his area by force.
Pakistani security establishment also helped Fazal Saeed Haqqani and the local elders successfully bargained a peace deal after a decade long bloodshed. According to sources close to Sirajudin Haqqani, Afghan intelligence was interfering in Kurram and has provided arms to different tribes for fighting against each other. When Haqqanis brokered a deal between the local tribes the Afghan intelligence contacted Sirajudin Haqqani and offered him to become part of the peace process initiated by President Hamid Karzai.

This scribe reported in this newspaper on Sunday that Karzai recently approached Sirajudin and even offered him governorship of Paktia. Sirajudin confirmed this information to BBC on Monday evening and said that Afghan intelligence and Americans contacted him many times. His confirmation will strengthen the impression in Pakistan that the US started accusing Haqqani Network of attacking its Embassy in Kabul after Haqqani’s refusal to become part of the peace process initiated by Washington and Kabul.

President Hamid Karzai suspended his talks with Taliban on Saturday and landed in Delhi on Tuesday. His visit to India in the current tense situation will raise many questions in Islamabad where many people accuse India of using Afghan territory to destabilise Balochistan and FATA.
Pakistani establishment is already disturbed over India’s growing influence in Afghanistan and now the reported contacts of Maulvi Faqir Muhammad with India and Karzai’s visit of India will create more misunderstandings between Kabul and Islamabad.


Top government sources in Islamabad have clearly said that Pakistan Army will not conduct any operation in North Waziristan under any foreign pressure because it will create more enemies for Pakistani state in FATA and Afghan intelligence will adopt these enemies of Pakistan as their new sons like they adopted Maulvi Faqir Muhammad.

Many analysts think that Pakistani establishment signed peace deals with Taliban between 2004 and 2009 but there was no positive result and any new peace deal will also fail but many people think otherwise.
They think that most of the peace deals in the past were sabotaged by US drone attacks. These deals were masterminded by security establishment but this time political forces must take the lead.
Any future peace deal between TTP and the Pakistani government could bring dividends only if it is approved by Parliament. Prime Minister Gilani has openly said that he was prepared to talk with Taliban and Haqqani Network but all those who gave him support on September 29 in APC for talking to people in FATA have parted ways within one week.


Haqqani network pushing TTP to make peace with Pakistan
 
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Mixing all taliban together can bring worse result in future. And no talks should be made with TTP. Only the Taliban's working under Mullah Umer should be facilitated in talks.

Yunkies don't look at me like this, it's all your fault that we are going to start talks with Taliban. You could avoid this while not backstabbing pakistan in this war
 
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Why not, if you guys love the Taliban so much that you wan them in afg, I am sure you will want them in Pak too
 
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The primary reasons why the TTP took over FATA was the implementation of Sharia, they were also doing the same thing and the same fight in Afghansitan before 9/11. So they have a reason to oppose Pakistani gov unless Pak accepts their terms.
 
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