TTP bases hit with artillery in Kunar by Pak Army

[Aesterix]

Now wait for "Akhpal margaray" brigade to cry rape.

This is interesting.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1493324530642604033

Pakistan doesn't need their permission.
Even afghan previous government didn't allow, but couldn't do anything.

 

[Oom]

This is interesting.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1493324530642604033

What should interest you even more is that the BLA release was done unseen MoI - Haqqanis gave the order.

And fencing issues on the Afghan border is being done under the MoD - yaqoob umar.

Both of these individuals albeit not in love with each other have a common approach to Pak. Pak is pretty much out of options with regard to IEA as both these individuals lead the entire IEA forces, no third option.

And all of this was not unexpected. We knew that TTP would give harder time post Ghani.

 

[Tornado23]

Any result of the shelling?

Afghans and indians are claiming 60 cattle dead, but only show the remnants of a hut hit by an arty shell. No cattle can be seen.

 

[Areesh]

2001

Afghan Taliban: We won't hand over Usama bin Laden since he is our guest

Result: USA invades Afghanistan. A war rages on for 20 years. Hundreds of thousands Afghans dead. The whole country destroyed

2021

Afghan Taliban: We won't take action against TTP. They are our guests

Result: The whole country is literally on the brink of starvation. Nobody likes Afghan taliban in the world. No economy. And pissing off the only country in that world that has some soft corner for Afghan Taliban

Conclusion: Afghan Taliban are circus clowns

 

[Sayfullah]

Afghan Taliban: We won't hand over Usama bin Laden since he is our guest

That’s false. Taliban offered Osama to USA if they could prove he was responsible for 9/11 or if they would accept to try him in a shariah court.

Video 1 of Taliban wanting to put Osama on trail in shariah court:

Video 2 of Bush denying to let Osama be put on trail:

Video 3 of Taliban press conference asking for Osama to be put on trail and trailed fairly in court and punished fairly if responsible:

Video 4 once again Taliban willing to put him on trail even after concluding there isn’t enough evidence to say he’s guilty:

Also Taliban offered Saudi to take Osama as well.
When usa started bombing Afghanistan then Taliban refused to hand him over. Usa was the aggressor

 

[Zhukov]

Hit by artillery? So their bases are like few kilometers away in line of sight of Pakistan border out in the open? Like right across the border seriously?

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

Hopefully, brother TB2 is in action....

 

[Oom]

That’s false. Taliban offered Osama to USA if they could prove he was responsible for 9/11 or if they would accept to try him in a shariah court.

Video 1 of Taliban wanting to put Osama on trail in shariah court:

Video 2 of Bush denying to let Osama be put on trail:

Video 3 of Taliban press conference asking for Osama to be put on trail and trailed fairly in court and punished fairly if responsible:

Video 4 once again Taliban willing to put him on trail even after concluding there isn’t enough evidence to say he’s guilty:

Also Taliban offered Saudi to take Osama as well.
When usa started bombing Afghanistan then Taliban refused to hand him over. Usa was the aggressor

I don’t think you understand how deep the relationship of Taliban and Al Qaeda runs. Taliban gave cover to OBL terror, and Afghanistan paid the price.

 

[ziaulislam]

As a rule one would use artillery over drones whenever you can use them. A drone is an aircraft that is expensive and complicated to get to target and launches tiny explosives at a target. Yes, it has its use-case but this is not it. Why not use artillery which is muuuuch cheaper, can deliver a LOT more firepower, QUICKLY?

With lot of colateral damage
Leading to more support

Choose one drone buy in numbers peoduce ammuntion at home
Its 20 years and PA still confused which drone to operate and which MRAP to buy

Lastly
IMO pakistan should not lobby for IEA unless IEA settle all issues with pakistan
1- settle the boarder officially AGAIN. It should just be reaffirmation not opening the pandora box
2- settle the no terrosim call

If IEA doesnt do this, than its times to bring another proxy..northern allaince should be armed and trained..

 

[Maula Jatt]

Hit by artillery? So their bases are like few kilometers away in line of sight of Pakistan border out in the open? Like right across the border seriously?

yeah

 

[Chacha_Facebooka]

With lot of colateral damage
Leading to more support

Should it matter to us if TB have support in Afghanistan or not? All we care about is them not attacking us. If they attack us, our attack will be 10 times worse. They'll think twice before attacking us.

 

[TheSolution]

Should it matter to us if TB have support in Afghanistan or not? All we care about is them not attacking us. If they attack us, our attack will be 10 times worse. They'll think twice before attacking us.

Even if they don't attack us in the short-term, they will switch to an aggressive policy the moment they get a bit of power. They have always opposed Pakistan.

A militarily powerful Afghanistan will always be a threat. Even with a bit of stability they'll probably start their own Indian-like shenanigans within Pakistan by fuelling sectarian movements

 

[SIPRA]

Long way to go. IEA is proving to be far worst than was being expected, at least, by the common public.

 

[Flight of falcon]

Talibans are like wild hogs….. brainless and stupid. What do we do when hogs charge at you and you have the gun in your hands ?

 

[KaiserX]

Artillery strikes are nothing new. These have been ongoing for the last few decades. During Raheel sharifs tenure there were almost daily A100 rocket strikes into kunar.

For these terrorist we need precision strikes utilizing a combination of UAVs, Surface-Surface missiles, and Fighter jets equipped with precision targetting pods that we have amply available. All these options should be backed by SSG/army raids into afghanistan territories. The military measures will be taken alongside a parallel diplomatic course to convince the IAE to take action against TTP/BLA.

At the same time all of these options would entail a definate loss of life and equipment on our side which we should be prepared for before hand. At the end of the day even if we lose a few dozen tanks, a few jets, and hundreds of men we would save ourselfs from decades of terror that we have suffered the last few decades from continuing into the next few decades.

It should follow an escalation ladder. Week 1 We start off with UAV strikes via Shahpurs/TB2s/CH4s and minor incursions 30-40km into the border. A few dozen key terrorist TTP/BLA leaders from kunar to balochistan will be targetted in unison. Keep the terrorist on their toes.

If that does not stop the problem within a few weeks and we continue taking losses we should escalate to launching surface to surface missiles and airstrikes. Week 2 would entail at least 126 strikes on key TTP/BLA targets representing the number of students lost in peshawer at army school. If the IAE military elements are found at TTP bases they too shall not be spared and should be targetted by fighter jets. This should continue to be supported by SSG raids into afghanistan. This should be carried on for a period of 1 week simultaneously to not give terrorist a chance to think.

If the secondary escalation ladder does not work then we utilize the final option which would be to effectively change elements of the taliban regime in power that are anti-pakistan. Many here do not understand that the Taliban is not a unified force and has many factions. Some of these factions are pro-pak and some are anti-pak. We may have no choice but to strike kabul and take out those in leadership that are anti-pak and replace them with pro-pak leaders.

For this on week 3 Pak would inititate a No Fly Zone over all of Afghanistan to bring international attention to this issue. Close all border crossings into afghanistan including trade, commerce, travel, etc... Economically strangulate the Taliban terrorist while launching simultanious air strikes across afghanistan. The UN would be convened and a final diplomatic push will take place while Pak masses forces to its western border.

The initial strikes would start off with the PDF using baburs/fatehs/shaheen 1B to target powerplants, communication centers, IAE military command centers, and air bases.The airforce would shoot down any IAE air asset that challenges PAFs air presence. Within a few days the all IAE air bases are levelled with all eqquipment destroyed.

Simultaneously PDF would have to dedicate a mechanized armoured divison consisting of 80k troops, 2k SSG, 300 tanks/1000 IFV/200 MRAP backed by UAVS/Mirages/JF17s/J10C/F16s. Incurisions will take place at 4-5 different points accross the border. The IAE would never be able to mass so much firepower in so many place at once. PDF would be able to break through enemy gaps, encircle the enemy, inflict mass damage. While the breakthrough occurs in 2-3 different place. The key force would be a SSG battalion backed by an al-khalid tank brigade and Hamza IFV battalion that would continue onwards and mount a surprise and deep incursion into Kabul itself.

SSG comandos will themselves be dressed in the uniforms of the Bhadri 313 to sow confusion and infiltrate their ranks while delivering the final fatal blow which would be the assasinate/arrest of anti-pak taliban terrorist and replacing them internally with a new regime. As soon as mission is accomplished PDF would retreat back into Pak territories. ANytime during the conflict IAE forces could surrender unconditionally and PDF could retreat. Either way Pakistan would prove its resolve and the IAE would understand that the cost of using its territory against pak would be way to risky due to us targetting their national infrastructure in retaliation.

We have the capabilities in place and have invested billions over decades to go this route but lack the political will to do so.