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TTP absolved as Uzbeks claim killing 17 soldiers

This is funny. We all know that the Punjabi Taliban, the Uzbeks, the now seemingly defunct Ilyas Kashmiri group all operated/operate in conjunction with the TTP if not as veritable arms for them. It would be wise to remember that in 2004 TTP and Nek Mohammed did indeed support the Uzbeks and it was Nazir who fought them and drove them out of South Waziristan.

As far as the Uzbeks are concerned its amazing how people from a country Pakistan does not even share a border with can find their way to Waziristan. We have no wish to do anything about the TTP for some reason. This rubbish here anyone who is from the Wazir or Dawar regions can throw in the bin. Uzbeks form a huge section of the TTP. This article should settle it:

ISLAMABAD: The December 16 blatant assault by the fidayeen attackers of Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) targeting the Pakistan Air Force (PAF) base inside the Peshawar Airport has proven beyond any iota of doubt that the Waziristan-based Uzbek militants have become an integral part of the TTP which is mostly using them to conduct deadly guerilla attacks against sensitive military installations in all four corners of Pakistan.



Those investigating the TTP attack on Bacha Khan International Airport say the Taliban have stepped up a bloody campaign of retribution against the Pakistani security forces ever since al-Qaeda chief Osama bin Laden was hunted down in Abbottabad on May 2, 2011. While revising its previous strategy of carrying out massive attacks in big cities and killing civilians in large numbers, the TTP is now concentrating on military targets. Within weeks of Osama’s killing, a group of fidayeen attackers of the TTP had attacked the Mehran Naval base in Karachi [on May 22, 2011] and destroyed two of the four Orion maritime surveillance aircrafts besides killing ten highly-trained commandos of the Special Services Group (SSG). In a ferocious battle which lasted for 15 hours, the attackers had lost four of their men who were later identified as Uzbeks. The TTP had claimed that the attack was a revenge for the deaths of Baitullah Mehsud and Osama bin Laden.



Almost two months later, on August 16, 2012 terrorists once again went on rampage and targeted the Kamra Air base of the Pakistan Air Force. At least eight militants were killed in a counter operation that lasted over five hours, killing a PAF security official in the fire exchange. Most of the attackers were foreign nationals and described as Uzbek militants. The Kamra attack was claimed by the TTP. Those investigating the December 16 audacious assault on the PAF Air base inside the Peshawar Airport say it was almost a replay of the TTP-sponsored fidayeen attacks on the military installations in Karachi and Kamra. And significantly, most of the five fidayeen attackers who were killed in the gun battle with the security forces inside the airport were identified as Uzbek nationals. The TTP spokesman Ehsanullah Ehsan claimed responsibility, saying, “Our target was jet fighter planes and gunship helicopters [of PAF] and soon we will target them again”. Peshawar airport is a joint military-civilian facility.



A day after TTP’s raid in Peshawar, the security forces stormed an under construction building close to the airport and killed the five remaining militants who had conducted the fidayeen assault. Inter Services Public Relations (ISPR) spokesman Major General Asim Bajwa has already stated that the three terrorists killed and two others who had detonated their suicide vests during the Peshawar operation appeared to be Uzbek. As a matter of fact, Uzbek militants have been active in Pakistan since the 1990s, with the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan (IMU) being the main group which organizes and directs these militants. Formed in 1998 by Tahir Yuldashev, the main focus of the IMU has always been ousting the Uzbek President Islam Karimov and to install an Islamic regime in Uzbekistan. Yuldashev oversaw the expansion of the IMU’s membership base from Uzbeks, Tajiks, and Kyrgyz to multiple other nationalities, including Uyghurs, Turkmen, Turks, Afghans, Arabs, Chinese, Chechens, Germans, Norwegians, as well as Russians.



As far as the bond between the TTP and the IMU is concerned, the two groups have a long history of collaboration, even before the TTP’s launching by Baitullah Mehsud. Tahir Yuldashev was the first one to have offered the services of his 2,500-plus fighters to Baitullah when he had decided to take ups arms against the state of Pakistan. The TTP provided sanctuary for the IMU in exchange for its assistance re-sourcing the fight against Pakistani security forces. This sanctuary, however, was short-lived as successive military operations in South Waziristan in 2009 [which were backed by Maulvi Nazir] and the killings of Baitullah Mehsud and Tahir Yuldashev in American drone attacks in August 2009 forced the IMU out of the region.



The new IMU ameer decided to relocate his militants to North Waziristan where it, once again, found some new allies, including al-Qaeda and the Haqqani Network. The new TTP Ameer Hakeemullah Mehsud adopted the same strategy by relocating his fighters to North Waziristan after Baitullah’s death. The TTP-IMU bond had strengthened under the command of the new leaders of the two groups which are working in tandem with each other to target the Pakistani security forces in every nook and corner of the country. A video posted online by the IMU in September 2010 had featured footage of Yuldashev’s successor Abu Usman Adil meeting with Hakeemullah Mehsud and his second-in-command, Waliur Rahman. Abu Adil was killed in a US drone strike in April 2012 and succeeded by his deputy, Usman Ghazi.



In a most recent development, the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan has moved from its Uzbek roots and re-branded itself under the Persian Dari name of the Tehrik-e-Islami-e-Uzbekistan rather than the Uzbek name of Uzbekistan Islami Harikati. Despite having suffered some major losses in recent years, the IMU remains one of the most militarily capable and media savvy jehadi outfits operating in the Waziristan region. Even though IMU-trained Uzbek militants have taken part in several deadly fidayeen attacks against the Pakistani security forces being a key ally of the TTP, the April 15 Bannu Jailbreak this year was perhaps the only event which was filmed by the militants and marketed.



The 25-minute Uzbek-language video, which was released on June 14, was primarily meant to prove that the IMU and other al-Qaeda-linked foreign terrorists masterminded the jailbreak that freed 384 prisoners, including a top al-Qaeda militant, Adnan Rashid. If the contents of the video are to be believed, the Bannu jailbreak was planned after Adnan Rashid wrote to the ameer of the Uzbek jehadis, seeking help to getaway. The jailbreak plot was subsequently orchestrated with the support of the Tehrik-e-Taliban.

Anyone who tries to defend the TTP of this and prove that they are cuddly-wuddly fluffy little angels does not have a grasp on the deteriorating situation in Waziristan. I mean its amazing how we can go into territory we virtually left as a playground for Nazir to arrest Gul Baradar and we can't take down those leaders taking part in killing Pakistanis like Hakimullah and his gang?
 
This is funny. We all know that the Punjabi Taliban, the Uzbeks, the now seemingly defunct Ilyas Kashmiri group all operated/operate in conjunction with the TTP if not as veritable arms for them. It would be wise to remember that in 2004 TTP and Nek Mohammed did indeed support the Uzbeks and it was Nazir who fought them and drove them out of South Waziristan.

As far as the Uzbeks are concerned its amazing how people from a country Pakistan does not even share a border with can find their way to Waziristan. We have no wish to do anything about the TTP for some reason. This rubbish here anyone who is from the Wazir or Dawar regions can throw in the bin. Uzbeks form a huge section of the TTP. This article should settle it:
Thanks for the article (can you give the link, please). Very close to what I just said, IMU is allied with Al Qaeda, TTP and Afghan-Taliban's. Notice the link between Al Qaeda, TTP and Afghan-Taliban.

Actually they are not new allies, IMU, AQ and Afghan-Taliban's jointly fought the North alliance way before September 11. IMU’s first leader Jama Namangani was a close friend of mullah Omar.

The new IMU ameer decided to relocate his militants to North Waziristan where it, once again, found some new allies, including al-Qaeda and the Haqqani Network.
Here's an interesting point to note, all the leaders of IMU were killed by the Americans. Its first leader Jama Namangani was killed in Afghanistan, Tahir Yuldashev and Abu Usman Adil (second and third) were killed in FATA.

I have a question?

How come America keeps on killing leaders of an terrorist organization who are allied with “Americans sponsored TTP”.

Anyone who tries to defend the TTP of this and prove that they are cuddly-wuddly fluffy little angels does not have a grasp on the deteriorating situation in Waziristan. I mean its amazing how we can go into territory we virtually left as a playground for Nazir to arrest Gul Baradar and we can't take down those leaders taking part in killing Pakistanis like Hakimullah and his gang?
Could you please elaborate on the highlighted part?

Thanks.
 
may be.....the uzbeks carried out the attack on the army so that an operation can commence in Waziristan thus targeting TTP..... i bet TTP will get rid of them now or if not now then perhaps later !!!

But how come people of Uzbekistan come to your tribal area? Are they also part of Terrorist shell? Is it different that Taliban ideology or they are in parallel with them?
 
They are nothing but Afgan Uzbek soldiers, of northern alliance haters!

Come from north of Afghanistan.

Nope, they are uzbeks of uzbekistan , belonging to islamic movement going on there. Uzbeks of afghanistan under dostum are noted for their anti-taliban history.
 
But how come people of Uzbekistan come to your tribal area? Are they also part of Terrorist shell? Is it different that Taliban ideology or they are in parallel with them?

Yara these are Afghan Uzebk... Please stop using the word "terrorist shell". It is one giant movement. Yemeni, Afghans, Uzbek, Arabs, North Africans, Somali, Europeans, Uyghur etc etc... All are there.

Is it different that Taliban ideology or they are in parallel with them?
AQN, simple as that!
 
Yara these are Afghan Uzebk... Please stop using the word "terrorist shell". It is one giant movement. Yemeni, Afghans, Uzbek, Arabs, North Africans, Somali, Europeans, Uyghur etc etc... All are there.


AQN, simple as that!

Thanks for your answer...But donot you guys think that this is one of big challenge for your GOV to flush out all these foreign nationals on your soil?
 
Thanks for your answer...But donot you guys think that this is one of big challenge for your GOV to flush out all these foreign nationals on your soil?

Is it really that easy, do you know the size of the terrain in tribal belt and agencies? It's not like the enter Pakistan via the normal ports of entry. Secondly the thing which foreign observers miss out, many of these people are now married into Pakistani tribes around the belt.

A perfect example is Khoratabad in Quetta, Baluchistan. People think Taliban and militants are limited to FATA and the Pashtun tribal belt... Wrong! This is a very long and arduous process, there is not simple effervescent tablet for instant relief when it comes to dealing with this headache.
 
Hang on a minute..
So we have Pakistani Taliban, Afghan Taliban,Uzbek taliban,The Alqaeda and what else? And none of them are interconected?...
So the Afghan government cannot safeguard their borders and allow people from Uzbekistan to cross Afghanistan and enter Pakistan...
Now which Tribal area will hold a demonsteration against Afghanistan or Uzbekisran?
After all these killings of Pak Army exclusively happen in Tribal areas by whoever..
 
Hang on a minute..
So we have Pakistani Taliban, Afghan Taliban,Uzbek taliban,The Alqaeda and what else? And none of them are interconected?...
So the Afghan government cannot safeguard their borders and allow people from Uzbekistan to cross Afghanistan and enter Pakistan...
Now which Tribal area will hold a demonsteration against Afghanistan or Uzbekisran?
After all these killings of Pak Army exclusively happen in Tribal areas by whoever..

Yeah exactly, it's not like they enter Pakistan via Peshawar Airport? And people think there is a magic button somewhere in Islamabad that will deactivate the Taliban and the AQN/network sponsored militants operating in the Af/Pak belt.
 
Nope, they are uzbeks of uzbekistan , belonging to islamic movement going on there. Uzbeks of afghanistan under dostum are noted for their anti-taliban history.
Exactly, the most active Uzbek terrorist organization in FATA is called Islamic movement of Uzbekistan (IMU), it was started in Uzbekistan, it's founding member Jama Namangani and Tahir Yuldashev (first and the second leaders) were both from Uzbekistan.

While originally an Uzbekistan-based movement it now include many nationalities.
 
Hang on a minute..
So we have Pakistani Taliban, Afghan Taliban,Uzbek taliban,The Alqaeda and what else? And none of them are interconected?...
So the Afghan government cannot safeguard their borders and allow people from Uzbekistan to cross Afghanistan and enter Pakistan...
Now which Tribal area will hold a demonsteration against Afghanistan or Uzbekisran?
After all these killings of Pak Army exclusively happen in Tribal areas by whoever..

And Punjabi talibans, punjab can not safegaurd its border and allow these punjabi talibans to cross and enter into KPK and FATA, should tribals also hold demonstration against punjab?. And they all are inter-connected. Most of uzbek talibans are settled in the region before 9/11 so dont blame afghanistan, infact ISI sponsered talibans are sent in large number to Afghanistan who fight against NATO, it is actually Pakistan who is playing with fire, has double standards and still supports a portion of talibans, thus not serious in eliminating talibanization, its own creation. Why you are holding tribals responsible? Their social structure and framework is since long time destroyed, their tribal elders and malaks mysteriously killed one by one.
And let me remind you mangal bagh of khyber agency is one of the pet of pak army/ISI. Why Pak army is supporting these so called "good talibans", why it is not sincere in war on terror and only is doing it for dollors as if they are "kiraiy key qatil".
You can blame tribal parents for raising their childern as religous extremists but who sowed the seeds of jihadism and religous extremism in tribal areas? It was ISI during zia ul haq times. It was ISI who told locals to take good care of their arab and uzbek guests. Then after 9/11 army/ISI turned its back on its talibans for dollars, proving that they are not to be trusted and according to mullah zaeef they have two tongues in one mouth and can even milk from bull.
Tribals are simple-mined fools, were always used as cannon fodder by pakistan. In order to suppress pashtun nationalism Pakistan has dangereously experimented on these fools and on Afghans by nurturing jihadism and talibans.
 

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