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You have to be dumber than a rock to believe thisYou are aware that the only country in the world spreading Liberalism is America, right? And with the culling of American Liberal Imperialism your fantasy of a Liberalized Pakistan will end too?
No one in their sane mind should take support from US on any issue as they can backstab you at any moment what you describe as a so called Umrikan sazish is anything but that Its something that is happening across the MENA region and America isnt actually the catalystFor me, American politics becoming radicalized is a great thing because then people like you in Pakistan will no longer have a Liberal power to support you.
I have been to America I had racial slurs hurled at me by other races when I was minding my own business. The least racist people in America are whites. I know a man that was told to leave an event because he was a white male. Some Universities in America have 'day without whites'. University papers are publishing anti white hate speech. Many minorities in the US feel that whites owe minorities their homes, inheritance and money. (This is not me blowing propaganda but actual prominent liberal activists have made these demands on news networks and twitter.
It is too soon for there to be any significant impact from the Trump tax cuts yet. Even the growth numbers being seen this past year are largely due to the policies put in place during Obama's administration. It'll be another year or two (if not more) before we really see any impact from Trump's policies.
The financers of both top republican and democrats are sameThat's the thing that confuses me. The leadership of the American Right is mostly White and Jewish, and the leadership of the American left is also mostly White and Jewish.
They are cannibalizing themselves. Not to mention the fact that statistically the average White person in America has a non-white ancestor in their not-too-distant past, usually Black. And almost all Black people in America have White genes somewhere down the line.
At least Russians are less hypocritical about this, since they are actually White and their leadership is not dominated by Jewish people.
This whole equality mumbo jumbo is made in America. Never existed before in the history of mankind.You have to be dumber than a rock to believe this
No one who believes in equality for all would root for an imperialist power such as America most Americans are good people but as a state it has time and time again caused nothing more than destruction for those unfortunate countries who dared to say no to their demands
No one in their sane mind should take support from US on any issue as they can backstab you at any moment what you describe as a so called Umrikan sazish is anything but that Its something that is happening across the MENA region and America isnt actually the catalyst
So America is ungrateful. Should I be surprised?The same way the so called aid came those two things were connected by the hip the NATO transit route wasnt free for US what they gave was for what they used but being the ungrateful imperialist lot they are they turned on us when they lost
Anyone with an iota of knowledge about geopolitics knows that none of this will win the Americans anything Afghanistan. Taliban are still a major force on the ground in terms of influence.What is the status of Afghanistan right now under Trump?More troops,more bombs and more trouble for neighbors of Afghanistan right?
The whole shitshow in Afghanistan started with both Soviet and American meddling in the country. @Psychic is more knowledgeable on this subject.Even the Soviets were better than the current govt which tolerates and promotes pedophilia among its forces and has 25% of its police in some cases hooked on drugs
Yes it did American events were just more vocal due to the influence of America but they werent the stand alone movementsThis whole equality mumbo jumbo is made in America. Never existed before in the history of mankind.
And that is a problem that a lot of Pakistanis disagree on and which needs to change and will in at best in 20 years of uninterrupted real corruption free democracyNo where else equality exists, including in Pakistan where Kafirs (non-Muslims) are not considered equal to a Muslim even before the law. Different? Yes, but not equal.
Before na ahli Nawaz said aur intezar karoopefully with the fall of American Liberal power (within my lifetime) this will cease to exist, and so will stupidity like faggot rights, feminism, equality of religion etc..
Yes it's becoming radicalized - because there is no middle ground to take against the racist, misogynistic and homophobic right .
I miss Anthony Scaramucci
Fruits of dictatorships and corrupt democracies require surgery for removalThis isn't the first time Americans used Pakistan for their purpose and then tossed it aside.
Taliban are barely one entity Afghanistan now again going to its primal stage a stage of bickering ethnic warlords living off the nature in extremely primitive conditionsAnyone with an iota of knowledge about geopolitics knows that none of this will win the Americans anything Afghanistan. Taliban are still a major force on the ground in terms of influence.
Because an absolute majority of the citizens are in love with their chainsQuestion is why do we allow our sellout political class to take us back into becoming a American lapdog?
The toxic dollar they gave us was worth sadly more than our livesAlso what's truly sad is we closed the NATO supply routes after Trump cut aid (which all went to our politicians anyway). But when our soldiers were attacked by NATO in the Salala incident the supply routes were never permanently closed.
I used the Soviet example mainly for comparison right now what i want is to leave Afghanistan to its fate and increase patrolling on the durand line US gives refuge to ttp in Noristan and Paktia we need to take measuresThe whole shitshow in Afghanistan started with both Soviet and American meddling in the country. @Psychic is more knowledgeable on this subject.
It didn't. Want to know why? Because Liberalism is a White man's ideology as @Hassan_Ishtiaq stated. And the worlds first liberal state was America.Yes it did American events were just more vocal due to the influence of America but they werent the stand alone movements
Apprently they don't and they never will. Want to know how? Because some people are more equal than others in Pakistan.And that is a problem that a lot of Pakistanis disagree on and which needs to change and will in at best in 20 years of uninterrupted real corruption free democracy
Not sure what you mean by "you" but elites can say whatever they want, whether they are army officers or politicians because in the end they have the choice of relocating some place safe far from the average person who they detest. Elites make up tiny percentage of any population anyway. Even during Zia ul Haq's era Pakistani elites were westernized.Before na ahli Nawaz said aur intezar karo
On the lost two you are actually slowly losing out even in Pakistan where even the Army defended Ahmadis(without naming them) after captain safdar went apeshit in the parliament
here's hopingThe mooch will return
That is true and they used religion to suppress the masses(really i prefer to call them asses) and further the American interests in the region in exchange for dollars which mostly went in their pocketsEven during Zia ul Haq's era Pakistani elites were westernized.
The magic world is university graduate their direction sets the direction of nation,s future (but with 1.7% graduation we are in for a long haul )Elites make up tiny percentage of any population anyway
They kept the masses stupid,poor and uneducated for a reason a stupid population is easy to manipulate and oppressbecause in the end they have the choice of relocating some place safe far from the average person who they detest
No one is stopping anyone from atleast decreasing the inequality only a dead nation makes peace with inequality among its citizens we are far from dead(on icu maybe but not dead)Apprently they don't and they never will. Want to know how? Because some people are more equal than others in Pakistan.
True. But somehow Pakistan did much better in terms of stability under dictatorships than democracies. Perhaps that's telling something about the failure of democracy?Fruits of dictatorships and corrupt democracies require surgery for removal
How long has the US been in Afghanistan? 16, 17 years now? Have they defeated the Taliban? On the contrary the Taliban has become more stronger and influential than before. In districts where the Taliban does not rule other Islamist organizations control those areas.Taliban are barely one entity Afghanistan now again going to its primal stage a stage of bickering ethnic warlords living off the nature in extremely primitive conditions
So then you agree that democracy, which is rule of majority, is a corrupt system.Because an absolute majority of the citizens are in love with their chains
So then who's to blame in this case?The toxic dollar they gave us was worth sadly more than our lives
The best measure is to support groups that are pro-Pakistan. It worked before.I used the Soviet example mainly for comparison right now what i want is to leave Afghanistan to its fate and increase patrolling on the durand line US gives refuge to ttp in Noristan and Paktia we need to take measures
Elites will use anything to manipulate the masses. Kim Jong Un uses atheism to manipulate his people and any non-conformist is treated no differently in North Korea to a blasphemor in Pakistan. But the bottom point is proven that an elite will always rule the people and equality does not exist.That is true and they used religion to suppress the masses(really i prefer to call them asses) and further the American interests in the region in exchange for dollars which mostly went in their pockets
Massive majority of Pakistanis cannot afford education even of the elementary level. Those 1.7% are mostly children of elites who actually move out abroad for better opportunities. This the situation remains the same; masses of uneducated ruled by corrupt elites.The magic world is university graduate their direction sets the direction of nation,s future (but with 1.7% graduation we are in for a long haul )
And they're not going to change that anytime soon by giving education to the masses because then these same people will pull them down from power.They kept the masses stupid,poor and uneducated for a reason a stupid population is easy to manipulate and oppress
Sure no one is stopping it. There is nothing stopping anyone from doing anything. But certain things just don't work in real life because of regression to the mean.No one is stopping anyone from atleast decreasing the inequality only a dead nation makes peace with inequality among its citizens we are far from dead(on icu maybe but not dead)
Altaf Hussain,Nawaz Sharif and Taliban are fruits of dictatorsTrue. But somehow Pakistan did much better in terms of stability under dictatorships than democracies. Perhaps that's telling something about the failure of democracy?
Absolutely they tried to make bickering tribes a nation for their geopolitical ambitions and failed bigly Afghanistan as country in reality only exists in maps and among the refugee camps of EuropeHow long has the US been in Afghanistan? 16, 17 years now? Have they defeated the Taliban? On the contrary the Taliban has become more stronger and influential than before. In districts where the Taliban does not rule other Islamist organizations control those areas.
But that is the only JUST system sadlySo then you agree that democracy, which is rule of majority, is a corrupt system.
Support them with a handsoff approachThe best measure is to support groups that are pro-Pakistan. It worked before.
Irrationality of our so called leaders?So then who's to blame in this case?
That makes me feel better about myself oh wait i still only have rented house and a shitty khyber to call my ownThose 1.7% are mostly children of elites who actually move out abroad for better opportunities.
That country is a starved dictatorship where the only thing saving them from collapse are their nukesKim Jong Un uses atheism to manipulate his people and any non-conformist is treated no differently in North Korea to a blasphemor in Pakistan.
Those who cant afford education normally have too many kids they are forced to force their kids in work instead of educating themMassive majority of Pakistanis cannot afford education even of the elementary level.
And that is why those who do know and have little influence have to use whatever influence they have to help them move up even after facing oppositionAnd they're not going to change that anytime soon by giving education to the masses because then these same people will pull them down from power.