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President Trump said Tuesday that he had spoken with the senior Taliban leader, a phone conversation that is apparently the first direct verbal communication between a U.S. president and the Afghan insurgent force since the more than 18-year-old war in Afghanistan began.

Trump confirmed the Taliban’s announcement Tuesday that he had spoken by phone with Mullah Abdul Ghani Baradar, the Taliban’s top political leader.

“I spoke to the leader of the Taliban today. We had a good conversation. We’ve agreed there’s no violence, we don’t want violence; we’ll see what happens,” Trump told reporters at the White House. “They’re dealing with Afghanistan, but we’ll see what happens. We had actually a very good talk.”


Baradar is a senior figure representing the insurgent group in talks with the United States in Doha, Qatar. Those talks concluded with the signing of an accord Saturday between the United States and the Taliban that would lead to the reduction of U.S. forces in Afghanistan.


Trump said Saturday that he intends to meet face to face with Taliban leaders but did not provide details.

“I’ll be meeting personally with Taliban leaders in the not-too-distant future. And we’ll be very much hoping that they will be doing what they say they’re going to be doing: They will be killing terrorists,” Trump said. “They will be killing some very bad people. They will keep that fight going.”



The Taliban is opposed to the Islamic State fighting force that the United States is also fighting in several countries. A large part of the rationale for leaving U.S. troops in Afghanistan has been to prevent the country from again becoming a base for terrorism aimed at the United States or its allies.

Trump has been explicit in his desire to end a war he calls little more than a police action that wastes U.S. military resources. He has also been clear he would set aside the qualms of previous presidents about dealing with the Taliban, which harbored 9/11 mastermind Osama bin Laden and then fought U.S. forces after the 2001 invasion.


Trump built on a stalled outreach to the Taliban begun under President Barack Obama, and he empowered an envoy, veteran U.S. diplomat Zalmay Khalilzad, to bargain toward a U.S. exit. Trump called off a planned signing ceremony at Camp David last year, but Khalilzad returned to the effort not long afterward.


The phone call is notable for the stature it confers on Baradar. U.S. presidents typically deal directly with other heads of state or government, although there are exceptions. Obama received a 2011 letter purporting to be from Taliban senior leader Mohammad Omar, but the two had no known direct contact.

Obama administration seeks talks with the Taliban

Earlier Tuesday, the Taliban had released a photo on Twitter showing Baradar and other leaders seated at a table with a large phone console in the center.

In a statement, Baradar welcomed the phone call and said that “we assure with full confidence that if the U.S. implements the agreement, this will have positive impact on the bilateral relations in future.”

In the statement, Baradar addressed Trump directly.

“Mr President! You should act on the withdrawal of foreign troops and positive relations, and shouldn’t allow anyone to act against the deal,” Baradar said. “They would engage you in this long war.”

That was apparently a reference to both Afghan President Ashraf Ghani, with whom Trump spoke Sunday, and domestic U.S. critics of the Taliban agreement. Ghani’s weak U.S.-backed government has balked at the upfront release of Taliban prisoners, which the Taliban says is a condition of negotiations.

The U.S. deal with the Taliban is supposed to be a precursor to a national peace accord between the insurgents and the elected government based in Kabul. The Taliban considers itself the real ruler of Afghanistan, as Baradar’s statement makes clear.


The “Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan is an organized political and military force, and is committed to have cordial bilateral relations with you and the international community,” Baradar said, adding the United States should help rebuild Afghanistan after years of war.



“This is the right of the Afghan people to have a government of their choice with full freedom. So as soon as possible, the agreement is implemented, there will be peace and the people will get their rights,” Baradar said.

The Taliban statement quotes Trump as saying the Taliban has been “fighting for your country” and that the time has come for the United States to leave. The Taliban said Trump also pledged that Secretary of State Mike Pompeo will speak to Ghani “to remove hurdles in the way of intra-Afghan dialogue.”


“We will take part in the rebuilding of Afghanistan.”

Baradar was a co-founder of the Taliban movement and served as deputy to Omar, the founding leader, who died in 2013.

Afghan Taliban leader’s death confirmed years later

Baradar was arrested in Pakistan in 2010 and released in 2018. He immediately resumed political power with the group.

Susannah George in Kabul and Haq Nawaz Khan in Peshawar, Pakistan, contributed to this report.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...a01a4e-5d87-11ea-9055-5fa12981bbbf_story.html
 
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Trump is desperate for any deal , he doesn't care about the aftermath.
The Taliban wont suddenly call for elections after American withdrawal and become democratic. They will declare victory and try to finish off the present Kabul regime. The present Kabul Government knows this and wont agree to a half hearted treaty. Trump has done this before with the Kurds recently.
Highly bloody few years in the offing for Afghanistan with the Taliban already started killing civilians and government troops.
Maybe a UN peacekeeping force is required in Afghanistan.
 
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And yesterday he was calling them great fighters.
Deal is done American are leaving within 14 months. Rest of Afghanistan if political settlement happens is good if not see U next time
 
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Trump is desperate for any deal , he doesn't care about the aftermath.
The Taliban wont suddenly call for elections after American withdrawal and become democratic. They will declare victory and try to finish off the present Kabul regime. The present Kabul Government knows this and wont agree to a half hearted treaty. Trump has done this before with the Kurds recently.
Highly bloody few years in the offing for Afghanistan with the Taliban already started killing civilians and government troops.
Maybe a UN peacekeeping force is required in Afghanistan.
Why don't Bharat sends it's army for aiding Afghan Govt?

“We never negotiate with terrorists.”
They never designated them as a terror group.
 
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There's a new great fighters political trend in the town and Indians are pulling their hairs off over whether to move on or live with the old fake news's fundamentalist, terrorists kinda jargons

And we’ll be very much hoping that they will be doing what they say they’re going to be doing: They will be killing terrorists,” Trump said.

He did sound like Joe pesci arranging a meet up with another mob leader coz at the end we are all good fellows ain't we? :lol:
 
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Trump is desperate for any deal , he doesn't care about the aftermath.
The Taliban wont suddenly call for elections after American withdrawal and become democratic. They will declare victory and try to finish off the present Kabul regime. The present Kabul Government knows this and wont agree to a half hearted treaty. Trump has done this before with the Kurds recently.
Highly bloody few years in the offing for Afghanistan with the Taliban already started killing civilians and government troops.
Maybe a UN peacekeeping force is required in Afghanistan.


I agree UN should be there with indian soldiers and paid by the Indian government.

“We never negotiate with terrorists.”


Taliban will fight terrorists according trump... hence not terrorists? 8-)

Why don't Bharat sends it's army for aiding Afghan Govt?


cos the know they got their arse kicked in Sri Lanka... and sri lankans are pussies compared to pashtons Afgans,
 
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Highly bloody few years in the offing for Afghanistan with the Taliban already started killing civilians and government troops.
Afghan troops killed more civilians than Taliban last year.

Source: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...lled-or-wounded-in-first-half-of-2019-un-says
Maybe a UN peacekeeping force is required in Afghanistan.
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NATO couldn't do anything in past 2 decades.
The Taliban wont suddenly call for elections after American withdrawal and become democratic.
Yes, they won't and USA knows this.
This demand was made by the US and rejected by the Taliban; the US acquiesced.
Highly bloody few years in the offing for Afghanistan
1996-2001 were most peaceful in Afghan modern history.
 
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Afghan troops killed more civilians than Taliban last year.

Source: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...lled-or-wounded-in-first-half-of-2019-un-says

LoL

NATO couldn't do anything in past 2 decades.

Yes, they won't and USA knows this.
This demand was made by the US and rejected by the Taliban; the US acquiesced.

1996-2001 were most peaceful in Afghan modern history.
Fail to understand the Pakistani support here for the Taliban ? They killed a lot of Pakistanis too.
Aim is to have a neutral force not a occupying force in afghnistan. In civil wars this is the most common route.
 
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Fail to understand the Pakistani support here for the Taliban ? They killed a lot of Pakistanis too.
TTP =/= Taliban

Pakistan's insurgents used the name Taliban for themselves.

Ask any Pakistani. Good Taliban bad Taliban used to be a big thing, looks like you don't know what was the story behind it.
 
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