Trump pardons 15, Including 4 Blackwater employees involved in killing Iraqi civilians

[PakPrinciples]

Really ironic after referring to Mexican migrants as "drug dealers, criminals and rapists" and lambasting the Obama government in 2016 for apparently releasing them onto American streets he lets loose criminals, murderers and rapists onto US streets:
https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-us-canada-37230916

He's doing this on purpose.

He wants to create as much outrage as possible, so when he pardon's his family and himself, people will already be too tired to care.

I don't think he can pardon his family and himself before he's found guilty of anything otherwise what's there to pardon?

Lol, maybe he's trying to get in good with the White Supremacists so when he is sent to prison he can join the Aryan Nation. A big bonus is that he's a blonde German.

Trump is pure SCUM.

These killers are clearly psychopaths. They aren't even military, they are contract killers. This is clearly just fucking evil and racist.

Honestly, I'm left speechless.

This is the guy who was going off on how Democrats were releasing drug dealers, murderers, criminals of all sorts onto American streets but then does the same thing.

This is the guy who calls Covid19 the "China Virus" that's lead to a surge of attacks on the Asian community in the US and globally so there's not much to expect from him.

He honestly doesn't care about anyone or anything other than the White Supremacists that follow him on Twitter and Facebook.

I thought the us cared about muslims

He does... as long as they're giving him hotel deals and lots of money.

i second that. i wonder what his hidden motivations for this move were. they can't be good.

I'm wondering the same thing.

I feel like he wants to leave behind nothing but chaos and problems for Biden to have to handle.

Biden will benefit from the Covid19 vaccine's release and upsurge in the economy that's going to follow particularly after the Stimulus package is released.

However, Trump is going to leave behind a bunch of disasters and headaches for Biden to handle like this issue which is only going to enrage the Iraqi's, Iranians, etc... while coupling a failing Netenyahu government with desperate Arab despots against Iran fomenting more violence across the Middle East.

What I'm really afraid of is this deranged pumpkin is going to launch attacks on Iran which is just going to set the powder keg off and Pakistan really does NOT want an escalation of violence in the region that would affect our economic recovery.

 

[That Guy]

I don't think he can pardon his family and himself before he's found guilty of anything otherwise what's there to pardon?

Do you remember how GWB jr found a lawyer to interpret laws to find ways to legalize torture?

So yeah, as long as he can legally interpret the laws in his favor, he can get away with it. Besides, he's in the midst of several dozen lawsuits against him, so that could help in his quest for pardoning everyone he's associated with.

 

[Beast]

Iraq shall bring the case to UN.

This will repeat and Australia will follow Trump by pardon those Afghan killer.

@Oldman1 @gambit

This must be the typical few isolated cases and US military admit the crime and so called justice served then shove under table and treat it as nothing happened?

Iraqi lives must be cheap in eyes of American?

 

[thewayoftheworld]

America is morally bankrupt. I feel for the Iraqi.

American president also pardon the only person prosecuted in a platoon that massacred 400-500 of mostly women in children in My Lai during the Vietnam war. Aussie solider are killing Afghani for sport. There is no justice for non-white people in the world. No other race of people killed people of other race than Anglo-American.

As you see, nothing has changed. They value their white skin more than justice for the killings of your brothers, sister, mother and father.

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

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No other race of people killed people of other race than Anglo-American.
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Not defending the Trump pardoning of war criminals, which were justifyably convicted and unjustifyably pardoned, but the comment above is one of the most ignorant comments I have read on PDF.

 

[Beidou2020]

America is morally bankrupt. I feel for the Iraqi.

American president also pardon the only person prosecuted in a platoon that massacred 400-500 of mostly women in children in My Lai during the Vietnam war. Aussie solider are killing Afghani for sport. There is no justice for non-white people in the world. No other race of people killed people of other race than Anglo-American.

As you see, nothing has changed. They value their white skin more than justice for the killings of your brothers, sister, mother and father.

Well said

 

[hualushui]

Why does Trump want any war criminals? This obviously hurts the international image of the United States.

 

[zectech]

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Why does Trump want any war criminals? This obviously hurts the international image of the United States.

Washington wants to be known as the worst thug in the world. It is bullying that made the USA. Washington hates liberty, freedom, democracy, human rights and peace.

 

[PeaceGen]

Washington wants to be known as the worst thug in the world. It is bullying that made the USA. Washington hates liberty, freedom, democracy, human rights and peace.

no... the US honors their first responders (hospital staff, firemen/women, cops, and soldiers) as all being a hero for risking their lives in some way on a daily basis.

and they're actually not all that united. they're divided into groups that share a world-view. most notably the Democrats and the Republicans.

Trump gains hundreds of millions of dollars in donations as he exits the Presidency, all based on severely hyped-up "election integrity testing", and his supporters are divided into groups and professions too, which means basically that he can feed *some* of these sub-groups lies that they get to hear over and over again in all of the mass media.

among the more hawkish, the more right-wing ultra-conservatives or even right-wing extremists, you'll find plenty of people who indeed don't care about Iraqi "collateral damage". So you're not entirely wrong.

BUT : where you *are* wrong, is seeing either Washington or the US or NATO as filled with people who will giggle when innocents far away from their own country get killed. We don't. We weep for the victims, and we wish we could prevent such events in the future.

And there are many many table discussion points that people in the west discuss before going to the voting booth to elect a politician.

You know this first hand, zectech, you're part westerner, so you know that people over here simply do not like violence at all, and that they gladly hand over authority to use force to the police and military.

And yes, we do honor the fallen cops, soldiers, firemen, hospital staff, generally speaking.
Some of us just don't care about violence happening far far away at all, and that's under our laws perfectly acceptable.

It all boils down to what i wrote above here, and our free speech investigative mass-media companies together with our education system and especially our history-classes in highschool, to create hurdles for any western President or Government to cause mass-suffering, whether that's due to lead in water pipes to homes, or wars that escalate, and i could name a few more of such scenarios.

*We* already went through our "border-defining wars". That period came to an end after WW2.
And we can't always fix the problems of hawkish/hardliner people elsewhere without ending up with small amounts of collateral damage. If you go in, or are forced into, a warzone, then you risk killing the innocent.

Such are the pressures of war, and when you bring politics into it, it basically boils down to this :
- Trump pardons people accused of what you call war-crimes, but he might well be doing this for the basic cultural values of the whites living in the US, and all those other-skin-colored people that the whites anywhere DO have business ties and friendship ties with.

- The US, and all western countries, do their best to clean up[2] the collateral damage mess that their armies create while engaging in some regional war somewhere.
[1] which for reasons i don't fully understand yet, also engage in political rivalry (communists vs capitalists, shia vs sunni, atheists vs the religious, etc, etc) that *does* create both small under-reported suffering *as well as* mass-suffering of the innocents, and anything in between really.
[2] via for instance the (2) Red Cross'/Crescent's activities (and organisations like those).
[2a] or via the foreign aid donations made by the west to troubled countries/regions.

All in all, i understand your frustrations. i can even respect them and let your insults slide right off me.
But you *are* wrong about westerners and whites in general. i hope that at a later age you can realize that (A) you were right to talk the way you do now, while at your current age, and (B) that i did have a valid point or 2 to make about my own people, white westerners.

TO ALL : feel free to ask me any question you like about the average day to day life of a white westerner.

lastly, (A) i'm not usually this long-winded about something, and (B) i hope you can enjoy your days ahead a bit more, after reading this. you might want to bookmark it, just in case.