Trump has all but decided to withdraw from Iran nuclear deal: sources

[Sineva]

I found this recently,its a very interesting reworking of a certain scene from a tv miniseries on hitlers last days.I thought it worked really well and gave me a much needed laugh in these troubled times.
https://www.captiongenerator.com/147692/Hitler-reacts-to-Trump-grabbing-that-pussy

 

[Ich]

Iran should skip this JCPOA and build the bomb asap. Iran needs at least 35 missiles with an atomic warhead. Turkey fucked russia and still go into bed with US. Syria will be schreddered in peaces, also Irak. Dont wait for european countries. There will be war in europe. Some would call it civil war, but it will be the same war as in Syria. Build the bomb.

 

[Battle of Waterloo]

Iran should skip this JCPOA and build the bomb asap. Iran needs at least 35 missiles with an atomic warhead. Turkey fucked russia and still go into bed with US. Syria will be schreddered in peaces, also Irak. Dont wait for european countries. There will be war in europe. Some would call it civil war, but it will be the same war as in Syria. Build the bomb.

There will not be a war in Europe.

As I understand, JCPOA works well (in theory) for Iran because it buys time for Iran to fix problems with IR-6/IR-8 centrifuges (need 3-5 more years). Then Iran can replace IR-1/2 centrifuges and become a latent nuclear power (cascade of 1000 IR-8 centrifuges hidden deep underground would give Iran a very short 'breakout time' compared to today with inefficient IR-1 centrifuges).

 

[Ich]

There will be war in europe. Not that war you think a war has to be. And not countries are in war. And as far as i read/heared: There are no more IR1 anymore in use.

 

[Battle of Waterloo]

There will be war in europe. Not that war you think a war has to be. And not countries are in war. And as far as i read/heared: There are no more IR1 anymore in use.

You heard wrong about IR-1. I think all of the current 5000 centrifuges in operation in Iran are IR-1 (if I'm wrong someone can correct me).

 

[Ich]

Sat Jan 28, 2017 8:19

https://en.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13951109001888

And in the year 2014: The order to replace the old ones

“We have about 19000 centrifuges installed and about 9000 of them are working” Salehi told Al-Alam, but these are previous generations and Iran has a plan to renew them with new generation one. The plan has not become operational yet because Iran waiting for final result of negotiations with P5+1, but it could not be delayed more.

http://en.seyedali.qomblog.ir/?tag=irans-ir8-centrifuges

 

[Battle of Waterloo]

Sat Jan 28, 2017 8:19

https://en.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13951109001888

And in the year 2014: The order to replace the old ones

“We have about 19000 centrifuges installed and about 9000 of them are working” Salehi told Al-Alam, but these are previous generations and Iran has a plan to renew them with new generation one. The plan has not become operational yet because Iran waiting for final result of negotiations with P5+1, but it could not be delayed more.

http://en.seyedali.qomblog.ir/?tag=irans-ir8-centrifuges

If you read JCPOA you will know that Iran is only allowed to operate 5,000 IR-1 centrifuges for now.

Iran is allowed to conduct limited testing of more advanced centrifuges such as IR-6 and IR-8, but only in very small numbers (such as 3 for IR-8) and is not allowed to make them operational.

 

[Ich]

Where are you living? Is BBC your mind-feed?

You easily can search the web and can find out that even the big lier BBC told you so long before JCPOA

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-22629920

 

[Battle of Waterloo]

Where are you living? Is BBC your mind-feed?

You easily can search the web and can find out that even the big lier BBC told you so long before JCPOA

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-22629920

Sigh.

This is from the text of the 159 page JCPOA document itself (annexed to UNSCR 2231):

"Iran will begin phasing out its IR-1 centrifuges in 10 years. During this period, Iran will keep its enrichment capacity at Natanz at up to a total installed uranium enrichment capacity of 5060 IR-1 centrifuges" [page 6]

http://www.europarl.europa.eu/cmsdata/122460/full-text-of-the-iran-nuclear-deal.pdf

 

[Ich]

Yes, the "capacity". But not what centrifuges do that "capacity". Also it is allowed to replace the IR-1. The phrase "phasing out" gives you the hint.

 

[Battle of Waterloo]

Yes, the "capacity". But not what centrifuges do that "capacity". Also it is allowed to replace the IR-1. The phrase "phasing out" gives you the hint.

Phasing out after 10 years, yes. It has not been 10 years from 2016, so for now the only centrifuges in operation in Iran remain 5060 IR-1 centrifuges.

Zero IR-2, IR-6 or IR-8 centrifuges are spinning and enriching uranium in Iran right now. This is a very basic fact.

 

[Ich]

Show me Annex I

Edit:

And Annex II

There you can read that also the EU violate this JCPOA if you bring the tankership in Gibraltar in mind. Or freeze of Iran money in EU. Or sanctions. All this happened after commiting to JCPOA. Let alone US.

I dont know why Iran commit to this paper. But it is not broken by Iran, but all other signatory. So in real this JCPOA is dead born. One can use it instead of water while his "private big business".

 

[Galactic Penguin SST]

I dont know why Iran commit to this paper. But it is not broken by Iran, but all other signatory. So in real this JCPOA is dead born. One can use it instead of water while his "private big business".

Must concur, from day one the JCPOA was a trap meant to delay Iran's nuclear development.
And look, North Korea that has instead speed up its own WMD program is now treated as an equal by the U.S.!


Ex-U.S. diplomat suggests Trump could accept North Korea as nuclear weapons state

August 17, 2019

WASHINGTON, Aug. 16 (Yonhap) -- A former senior U.S. diplomat has suggested President Donald Trump could eventually accept North Korea as a nuclear weapons state, although he has shown no indication of doing so yet.

Kurt Campbell, former assistant secretary of state for East Asian and Pacific affairs, aired the view in a recent interview with the Center for Strategic and International Studies, posted on the think tank's website this week.

"One hears persistent rumors and feedback that, on occasion, the president will ask: 'What's wrong with just letting them have -- acknowledging that? He seems like a perfectly reasonable guy. We can live with these guys. So what? We can manage the results,'" Campbell said, apparently referring to North Korean leader Kim Jong-un.

Discussing the possibility of an agreement under which North Korea would partially dismantle its nuclear weapons program in exchange for recognition as a nuclear weapons state and sanctions relief, he added: "I think there have been enough people that have pushed back on this now that I don't think the president has as yet been prepared to move in that direction. But my instinct tells me that he would take that deal."

Campbell also suggested that Trump could aggressively push his agenda if he wins reelection next year.
...
Campbell served as the top U.S. diplomat for East Asia from 2009-2013 under then-President Barack Obama, who has frequently been accused by Trump of mishandling the North Korean nuclear threat.

http://web.archive.org/web/20190817...co.kr/view/AEN20190817000500325?section=nk/nk ; http://archive.fo/MUJaC

 

[Galactic Penguin SST]

Persian Language And The Language Of Diplomacy

The gradual entry of a large number of loan words into Persian from European languages and most notably from French began in the 19th century and continued through the 20th century as part of the process of modernization of culture and society in Persia. Several political and educational factors played a significant part in the selection and provenance of these borrowings. Although France did not have the perennial political and military influence of Russia or Britain on Persia, it served, particularly in the 19th and early part of the 20th century, as the most important model of modern secular culture for Persia as well as many other countries of the region. French was not only the language of the corps diplomatique and haute couture but was also used as a second language in European royal courts and aristocratic circles particularly when refinements of cuisine, manners, and etiquette were discussed.

This process continued into the 20th century with the educational system at all levels modeled on the French system, in organization as well as curricula, and with the textbooks, particularly in the sciences, based on translations from French.


http://www.iranicaonline.org/articles/france-xvi-loan-words-in-persian-

By the 17th century, French was known as the language of diplomacy and international relations throughout the world.

Iranians know what to expect when dealing with foreign leaders, as the French meaning of their names give a pretty good hint!

Here a small list:

•Shinzo Abe is a Japanese politician who has been Prime Minister of Japan since 2012:
Shinzo The Abbot (French: abbé; Meaning: abbot)

•Imran Ahmed Khan Niazi HI PP is the 22nd and current Prime Minister of Pakistan:
Imran The Rod (French: canne; Meaning: stick)

•Narendra Damodardas Modi is an Indian politician serving as the 14th and current Prime Minister of India since 2014:
Narendra The Cursed (French: maudit; Meaning: cursed)

•George Walker Bush is an American politician who served as the 43rd President of the United States from 2001 to 2009:
George The Big Mouth (French: bouche; Meaning: mouth)

•Donald John Trump is the 45th and current President of the United States, in office since January 20, 2017:
Donald The Cheat (French: trompe; Meaning: deceive)

•Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin is a Russian statesman and former intelligence officer serving as President of Russia since 2012:
Vladimir The Whore (French: putain; Meaning: prostitute)

 

[Sineva]

https://www.bourseandbazaar.com/new...our-sanctions-waivers-on-iran-nuclear-program
https://www.bourseandbazaar.com/new...our-sanctions-waivers-on-iran-nuclear-program

The Trump administration will extend sanctions waivers allowing limited work on Iran’s civil nuclear program for another 60 days, two people familiar with the matter said.

At the same time, the administration will announce sanctions on the Atomic Energy Organization of Iran and its chief, Ali Akbar Salehi, according to the people, who asked not to be identified discussing a decision that hasn’t been publicly announced.

The decision to extend the waivers follows an internal disagreement between Secretary of State Michael Pompeo, who had advocated ending the waivers, and Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin, who wanted them extended.

The sanctions are meant to punish Iran for what the U.S. says is Tehran’s recent nuclear proliferation efforts, one of the people said.

Iran had earlier announced it would no longer be bound by uranium enrichment limits imposed by the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action, the nuclear deal President Donald Trump quit in 2018.

Trump has since imposed a raft of sanctions on Iran’s economy but had held off ending the four waivers that allowed other participants in the deal, including China, Russia and the U.K., to cooperate on limited nonproliferation work with Iran.

The decision to extend the waivers for now avoids a confrontation with European nations who argue that the nonproliferation work allows them and the U.S. to keep an eye on Iran’s nuclear program.

Whats the bet one of these bullsh~t waivers is for the redesign of the arak reactor?.Iran should be working on getting the chinese to pull out of the redesign effort just like the russians pulled out of the fordow isotope production plan,as this will both allow fordow to remain as a uranium enrichment facility and arak to be built to its original non enriched design.