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[Song Hong]

I can produce more etymology and writings of Indonesians using the IxxN word.

 

[nufix]

Etymology of "Indon". Indonesia use this word among themselves also especially long time ago. Since Malays are always using it, Indonesian peasants now sort of ban it and deem it as slur. Nevertheless many nations still use it in formal settings and Indonesian government never complaint.

So it shows that GoI dont really take it as insults.

https://media.neliti.com/media/publications/41636-none-4367adb0.pdf

The word Indon is pejorative. The word itself can be neutral but it has been used for quite long as an insult word that it is now commonly associated with insult. Address any Indonesian, especially those who have low to no exposure to Malaysians, with the word Indon and see how they react.

You basically took one example, namely Andik, who spent 6 years in Malaysia, and ignored millions of reactions from common Indonesians. That's not a good example now is it?

Similar word would be the use of word "Cina" in Indonesia. The word itself is neutral as it is only a word variation of China. But it has been used to insult Chinese and associated as an insulting word in Indonesia, that the Indonesian government officially banned the use of Cina to address Chinese Indonesia and China in official settings. Instead, it uses Tionghoa for Chinese Indonesian and Tiongkok for the country of China. Would non Chinese Indonesian think of the word "Cina" as an insult? Maybe yes, maybe no depending on the context. But Chinese Indonesians certainly do not appreciate to be addressed as such.

I can produce more etymology and writings of Indonesians using the IxxN word.


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You again took examples of people with exposure to Malaysia which neutralised the word to them.

 

[Song Hong]

The word Indon is pejorative. The word itself can be neutral but it has been used for quite long as an insult word that it is now commonly associated with insult. Address any Indonesian, especially those who have low to no exposure to Malaysians, with the word Indon and see how they react.

You basically took one example, namely Andik, who spent 6 years in Malaysia, and ignored millions of reactions from common Indonesians. That's not a good example now is it?

Similar word would be the use of word "Cina" in Indonesia. The word itself is neutral as it is only a word variation of China. But it has been used to insult Chinese and associated as an insulting word in Indonesia, that the Indonesian government officially banned the use of Cina to address Chinese Indonesia and China in official settings. Instead, it uses Tionghoa for Chinese Indonesian and Tiongkok for the country of China. Would non Chinese Indonesian think of the word "Cina" as an insult? Maybe yes, maybe no depending on the context. But Chinese Indonesians certainly do not appreciate to be addressed as such.



You again took examples of people with exposure to Malaysia which neutralised the word to them.

This are native Indonesians -- not Malays. These are even from Indonsian government.

 

[nufix]

This are native Indonesians -- not Malays. These are even from Indonsian government.




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Dude at this point you are just bringing up bad examples to deny and ignore Indonesian view of the word.

The Walasa Indon Homes is not even the official name of the Homestay. It only has Walasa Homestay. Find me one example where the homestay uses the word Indon casually on their homestays.

And did you even read the book title itself? Nowhere does it use the word Indon.

The text on the internet can be shortened for whatever reason but you would never find the word Indon as casually acceptable to Indonesians in Indonesia. Some with exposure to Malaysia (look at the linkedin profile you took, he spent 13 years in Malaysia) might tolerate the word but not common Indonesians.

If you want to know if one word is insulting, you should ask the one who's receiving it, not the one delivering it. But at this rate, I have to ask why is it so hard for you to accept the use of word is insulting to common Indonesians?

 

[Unknown-V]

This are native Indonesians -- not Malays. These are even from Indonsian government.




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I think the word "Indon" that you pointed is decapitated. Perhaps because limitation of words displayed on website.

 

[Song Hong]

See.... These are all Indonesians media

 

[beijingwalker]

 

[casual]

are there any plans to extend the line?

 

[siegecrossbow]

are there any plans to extend the line?

I think geography might be a pretty big challenge. If they can link the islands with HSR it’ll be really convenient though.

 

[casual]

I think geography might be a pretty big challenge. If they can link the islands with HSR it’ll be really convenient though.

there's supposed to be a phase 2. Just want to know how that's coming along.

 

[Luosifen]

Connect the islands via overland bridges or undersea tunnels?