Only a court can decide that which Khalad Khawaja never got a chance to appear before.
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Only a court can decide that which Khalad Khawaja never got a chance to appear before.
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Who the hell is Hamid Mir? DG Military Operations? Why the hell he has all that information? Who in the military is leaking this kind of information (if accurate) to him only to be passed on to the terrorists? Are these kind of infromation not top secret? Surely you have not read Hamid's column otherwise you would have known that he has openly talked about his communication links with TTP in Sawat and elsewhere and that is a common knowledge. If I know this, the intelligence agencies must know more than me and if that is true, why is he allowed to do what he is being blamed for?
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I guess it would not harm if we also listen Hamid's point of view on this whole issue. Please read the last paragraph. I think the jury is out and either this is the last column by Hamid or Mr Taseer is going to feel the heat.
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Who is an ISI 'Agunt'? Hamid?
Oh I see, so if Hamid is an ISI 'Agunt', some rival intelligence agency recorded the conversation, right? The rival intelligence agency was so 'professional' that instead of acquiring 'warrants' from the court or simply 'abducting' Hamid for further prosecution, it decided to leak the 'top secret' and 'highly sensitive' information to the media. Thats kind of very interesting do you not agree?
When? Where? by whom?
I fully agree with you; some really interesting game is being played out there where instead of sharing sensitive intelligence information among various agencies, its being secretly released out in the media and selectively to the Pakistan Times that is owned by Salman Taseer.
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dont look at me - i am not DG-ISI
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Hamid Mir is speaking to someone from Asian tigers and while he was doing so, the call was intercepted by the ISI and released on the internet by some websites. That should make it clear. A few important questions which arise listening to the tape.
1. Why was KK telling the banned outfit NOT to burn NATO goods and instead use them? maybe they started putting tracking devices?
2. Why was Hamid Mir speaking to these members of a banned outfit as if he is their signal intelligence head?
3. Why was Hamid Mir so reluctant to in a way get KK harmed.
4. Is it true that KK's wife is a canadian passport holder?
Whatever the case, it proves one thing which is, that Hamid Mir is in direct contact with anti-Pakistan terrorist groups and that Hamid Mir's actions caused the death of a person. Shame on him regardless of whether KK was right or wrong. Shame on him for potraying himself to be an innocent tv anchor fighting for the rights of the people and protecting them. Its like he almost commited the murder himself.
1. Why was KK telling the banned outfit NOT to burn NATO goods and instead use them? maybe they started putting tracking devices?
2. Why was Hamid Mir speaking to these members of a banned outfit as if he is their signal intelligence head?
3. Why was Hamid Mir so reluctant to in a way get KK harmed.
4. Is it true that KK's wife is a canadian passport holder?
Whatever the case, it proves one thing which is, that Hamid Mir is in direct contact with anti-Pakistan terrorist groups and that Hamid Mir's actions caused the death of a person. Shame on him regardless of whether KK was right or wrong. Shame on him for potraying himself to be an innocent tv anchor fighting for the rights of the people and protecting them. Its like he almost commited the murder himself.
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Is there any way to contact geo and let them know that they will start losing viewers if they don't remove this person from their organization. This is high time he has been supporting the terrorists and has been trying to create sympathy for them since the very beginning. Though i am looking forward to seeing how Dawn covers this story.
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My friend GEO is well aware of his activities. In fact GEO is involved in this entire ordeal. Why do you think GEO always shows the negativities of our countries to such an exaggerated extent that it harms our National Interest. Its about time the people of Pakistan realized that what Geo is doing and showing is not in the interest of our country rather they are painted a Bad picture of Pakistan for the entire world to see.
Whose agenda do you think they are working on now?
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Hamid Mir awarded SAARC Lifetime Achievement Award|TV Explore
He is an Honest Journalist with lot of sources/links to get his stories.
We should not stop if some thing good is happening in the Media, other wise who else will bring these issues to the public.
I will take Hamid Mir's word against that lunatic characterless Governor Salman Tasser any time.
He is an Honest Journalist with lot of sources/links to get his stories.
We should not stop if some thing good is happening in the Media, other wise who else will bring these issues to the public.
I will take Hamid Mir's word against that lunatic characterless Governor Salman Tasser any time.
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What a criteria to judge an A$$...
If Musharraf have a house in isb then living there will make you an A$$.
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Editorial: Shocking revelations
An audiotape doing the rounds in the cyber world has taken the country by storm. One of the country’s top anchors and a prominent journalist, Hamid Mir, while talking to an alleged Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) member, made shocking comments about various things. A transcript of the conversation was published in this newspaper yesterday. The conversation took place a few days before Khalid Khawaja, a former ISI official, was killed last month by a militant group going by the name of the ‘Asian Tigers’. Some are speculating if Mir’s indiscretions played a role in Khawaja’s murder.
There should be a thorough investigation into the matter by the security agencies. It should first be ascertained whether it was actually Hamid Mir or an impersonator on the audiotape. If it is indeed a genuine transcript, Mir’s credentials should come under the scanner. Considering the fact that Mir is a very influential TV anchor, it comes as a surprise that he seems to be involved in murky areas where most journalists fear to tread. Being an investigative journalist does make one come in contact with militant groups so as to get exclusive scoops, but it does not give a journalist the right to incite violence and hatred. If these charges are proved against Mr Mir, he could attract the mischief of the Army Act and Pakistan Penal Code for aiding and abetting terrorists who have declared war on the state of Pakistan and against whom our forces are fighting and dying. These are serious charges and should be dealt with accordingly.
When asked by the unidentified man who Khawaja was working for, Mir opined that he was working for the CIA and not the ISI. He then went on to strengthen his allegation by citing incidents from the past and how close Khawaja was to former CIA chief William Casey and a character called Mansoor Ejaz. Mir alleges that Ejaz could have been an Israeli agent since he tried to persuade Benazir Bhutto to recognise Israel when she was in power. Mir is already on record as having written that Khawaja led a “highly complex underworld life, as a mediator, sometimes on behalf of the Americans, a power-broker, a mover and shaker”. In the audiotape, Mir discloses that Khawaja wanted him to arrange a meeting with Kashmiri mujahideen leader Syed Salahuddin, but he did not because of Khawaja’s links with the Indian government. Mir also implicates Khawaja in the Laal Masjid case and hints that the reason Maulana Abdul Rashid Ghazi opted for death was to wipe out the humiliation of his brother fleeing the mosque wearing a burqa. Mir talks about his friendship with PML-N member Javed Ibrahim Paracha, who is alleged to have spread sectarian terrorism in Kohat and has links to al Qaeda and other terrorist outfits.
Apart from Mir’s conspiracy theories about Khawaja being an agent of the CIA, India and Israel, the most horrifying aspect was to hear Mir spewing venom against the Ahmedis in the audiotape. He alleged that Khawaja was a “Qadiyani agent” and said, “I personally believe that Qadiyanis are worse than the kuffar (infidels)”. The Ahmedis are already a persecuted community in Pakistan and such views by a prominent journalist would put them in further danger. There is already a lot of intolerance because of the extremist mindset that prevails in our society. When such a prominent television commentator and anchor makes such comments, his journalistic ethics must be questioned. These days many anchors and journalists are challenging the credibility of the government, but one must now interrogate their own credibility. It is hoped that the media group Hamid Mir works for would, in its wisdom, distance itself from Mir. Not only has Mir acted in a criminal manner, he has violated all professional ethics as well. Mir must be taken to task so that the people of Pakistan are not misled by his ilk in the future.
http://thedailytimes.com.pk
An audiotape doing the rounds in the cyber world has taken the country by storm. One of the country’s top anchors and a prominent journalist, Hamid Mir, while talking to an alleged Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) member, made shocking comments about various things. A transcript of the conversation was published in this newspaper yesterday. The conversation took place a few days before Khalid Khawaja, a former ISI official, was killed last month by a militant group going by the name of the ‘Asian Tigers’. Some are speculating if Mir’s indiscretions played a role in Khawaja’s murder.
There should be a thorough investigation into the matter by the security agencies. It should first be ascertained whether it was actually Hamid Mir or an impersonator on the audiotape. If it is indeed a genuine transcript, Mir’s credentials should come under the scanner. Considering the fact that Mir is a very influential TV anchor, it comes as a surprise that he seems to be involved in murky areas where most journalists fear to tread. Being an investigative journalist does make one come in contact with militant groups so as to get exclusive scoops, but it does not give a journalist the right to incite violence and hatred. If these charges are proved against Mr Mir, he could attract the mischief of the Army Act and Pakistan Penal Code for aiding and abetting terrorists who have declared war on the state of Pakistan and against whom our forces are fighting and dying. These are serious charges and should be dealt with accordingly.
When asked by the unidentified man who Khawaja was working for, Mir opined that he was working for the CIA and not the ISI. He then went on to strengthen his allegation by citing incidents from the past and how close Khawaja was to former CIA chief William Casey and a character called Mansoor Ejaz. Mir alleges that Ejaz could have been an Israeli agent since he tried to persuade Benazir Bhutto to recognise Israel when she was in power. Mir is already on record as having written that Khawaja led a “highly complex underworld life, as a mediator, sometimes on behalf of the Americans, a power-broker, a mover and shaker”. In the audiotape, Mir discloses that Khawaja wanted him to arrange a meeting with Kashmiri mujahideen leader Syed Salahuddin, but he did not because of Khawaja’s links with the Indian government. Mir also implicates Khawaja in the Laal Masjid case and hints that the reason Maulana Abdul Rashid Ghazi opted for death was to wipe out the humiliation of his brother fleeing the mosque wearing a burqa. Mir talks about his friendship with PML-N member Javed Ibrahim Paracha, who is alleged to have spread sectarian terrorism in Kohat and has links to al Qaeda and other terrorist outfits.
Apart from Mir’s conspiracy theories about Khawaja being an agent of the CIA, India and Israel, the most horrifying aspect was to hear Mir spewing venom against the Ahmedis in the audiotape. He alleged that Khawaja was a “Qadiyani agent” and said, “I personally believe that Qadiyanis are worse than the kuffar (infidels)”. The Ahmedis are already a persecuted community in Pakistan and such views by a prominent journalist would put them in further danger. There is already a lot of intolerance because of the extremist mindset that prevails in our society. When such a prominent television commentator and anchor makes such comments, his journalistic ethics must be questioned. These days many anchors and journalists are challenging the credibility of the government, but one must now interrogate their own credibility. It is hoped that the media group Hamid Mir works for would, in its wisdom, distance itself from Mir. Not only has Mir acted in a criminal manner, he has violated all professional ethics as well. Mir must be taken to task so that the people of Pakistan are not misled by his ilk in the future.
http://thedailytimes.com.pk
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