TPP failure would cost the US trade dominance

[AndrewJin]

Because of the history of slavery and discrimination, I dont mind Blacks supporting Obama which was very much needed for their belongings in America. At least they cant complain anymore.

So after Obama, i guess many of them have lost their final saver.....

 

[Russell]

Cruz and Rubio are Cuban-Americans. Cubans are usually the best out of the Hispanic groups. I think Cubans are the most successful out of the Hispanic groups in America.

If you see the violence in the streets, gangs and pure racist filth spewed, the Mexicans are the absolute worst. They make these white racists look like amateurs by comparison.

And I don't need to tell you about the behaviour of Blacks in America.

The Black and Hispanic neighbourhoods are not places you want to live in America.

Because Blacks and Hispanics are minorities, they get a free pass in the media because calling out their racism, violence and intolerant is considered bullying minorities. Media refuses to talk about them. So only whites are exposed by media because they are the majority and are easy targets to pick on. This leads to everyone thinking whites are bad and blacks and Hispanics are good.

58% of white people voted for Trump. But 95% of blacks voted for Obama twice. I bet you many of those black people voted for Obama just because of his skin colour.

Mexicans aren't close to being the worst.

Be it in Cali or in places like DC/Virginia - those coming from places like El Salvador, Guatemala, Nicaragua are at the pointy end of criminality. Gangs like MS-13 (with tens of thousands of members) are involved in everything from petty crime to prostitution, drug dealing, human trafficking to contract killings.

Cubans are the 'best' - because of the sort of Cubans who came and how they were looked upon historically. Their integration process has been a hell of a lot easier than other Latin groups. Not to mention, there are only 1.7mil of them.

Wanna know how many Mexican Americans? Close to 36mil.

 

[TopCat]

Mexicans aren't close to being the worst.

Be it in Cali or in places like DC/Virginia - those coming from places like El Salvador, Guatemala, Nicaragua are at the pointy end of criminality. Gangs like MS-13 (with tens of thousands of members) are involved in everything from petty crime to prostitution, drug dealing, human trafficking to contract killings.

Cubans are the 'best' - because of the sort of Cubans who came and how they were looked upon historically. Their integration process has been a hell of a lot easier than other Latin groups. Not to mention, there are only 1.7mil of them.

Wanna know how many Mexican Americans? Close to 36mil.

Cubans never had to be illegal.
Any Cuban reaches american soil is eligible for political asylum, thats the law.

 

[AndrewJin]

Mexicans aren't close to being the worst.

Be it in Cali or in places like DC/Virginia - those coming from places like El Salvador, Guatemala, Nicaragua are at the pointy end of criminality. Gangs like MS-13 (with tens of thousands of members) are involved in everything from petty crime to prostitution, drug dealing, human trafficking to contract killings.

Cubans are the 'best' - because of the sort of Cubans who came and how they were looked upon historically. Their integration process has been a hell of a lot easier than other Latin groups. Not to mention, there are only 1.7mil of them.

Wanna know how many Mexican Americans? Close to 36mil.

36 million???
What?
So one they will have more mexican murico than in Mexico?

 

[powastick]

Mexicans aren't close to being the worst.

Be it in Cali or in places like DC/Virginia - those coming from places like El Salvador, Guatemala, Nicaragua are at the pointy end of criminality. Gangs like MS-13 (with tens of thousands of members) are involved in everything from petty crime to prostitution, drug dealing, human trafficking to contract killings.

Cubans are the 'best' - because of the sort of Cubans who came and how they were looked upon historically. Their integration process has been a hell of a lot easier than other Latin groups. Not to mention, there are only 1.7mil of them.

Wanna know how many Mexican Americans? Close to 36mil.

And Hillary wants to give them citizenship. LOL.

 

[Russell]

36 million???
What?
So one they will have more mexican murico than in Mexico?

Yup.

Mexicans/Mexican Americans make up 11-12% of the total population of the US and they make up 2/3rds the total population of Hispanics and Latinos.

And Hillary wants to give them citizenship. LOL.

You think Trump is going to do something different? LOL

Obama in 8 years kicked out over 2.5mil illegals - that's more than Bush!

You notice how, Trump said, he'll kick out a couple of million...yet, said nothing about the remaining 10+mil? Because, he knows election season is over and 12mil people are never ever going to get kicked out.

Cubans never had to be illegal.
Any Cuban reaches american soil is eligible for political asylum, thats the law.

Yeah...that's my point. They've had always had special consideration and support.

 

[TopCat]

 

[powastick]

You think Trump is going to do something different? LOL

Obama in 8 years kicked out over 2.5mil illegals - that's more than Bush!

You notice how, Trump said, he'll kick out a couple of million...yet, said nothing about the remaining 10+mil? Because, he knows election season is over and 12mil people are never ever going to get kicked out.

If Trump can't kick them all out, is still better than giving citizenship. Vote rigging strategy under the guise compassion.

 

[艹艹艹]

http://www.stripes.com/news/pacific...window-to-fill-post-trump-trade-void-1.440867
December talks give China a window to fill post-Trump trade void
By David Tweed | Bloomberg | Published: November 23, 2016

HONG KONG (Tribune News Service) — Even before Donald Trump enters the White House and formally abandons a U.S.-led trade deal that represented a cornerstone of his country’s economic policy in Asia, Chinese President Xi Jinping will get a chance to prove his willingness to step into the leadership vacuum.

The U.S. withdrawal from the 12-nation Trans-Pacific Partnership — reaffirmed by Trump in a videotaped statement Monday — has focused attention on a competing set of trade talks planned for Indonesia next week. The negotiations, which unlike TPP include China and not the U.S., aim to synchronize existing pacts across much of Asia and would cover 30 percent of the global economy and almost half the world’s population.

The proposed Regional Comprehensive Economic Partnership, or RCEP, has become the next best hope for trade-hungry Asian nations after Trump’s surprise presidential win signaled a shift toward more protectionist policies in the U.S. Securing a deal would help cement China’s role as a geopolitical leader and further enmesh the world’s second-largest economy in the region.

“Unless the U.S. steps up its economic game, all the countries of this region will be pulled into the orbit of China economically,” said Kishore Mahbubani, a former diplomat and now dean of the Lee Kuan Yew School of Public Policy at the National University of Singapore. “As long as China becomes the economic center of gravity, its political influence will grow.”


The next round of RCEP talks will be held in Bumi Serpong Damai city, near Jakarta, from Dec. 2 to Dec. 10.

Unlike TPP, which was sold by U.S. President Barack Obama, Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe and other proponents as the prototype for a new generation of trade deals, RCEP doesn’t try to impose higher standards in areas such as labor and environmental protection. The 16-member pact would level tariffs and rules governing the region’s complicated supply chains, while improving market access and introducing dispute-resolution mechanisms.

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Chinese president Xi Jinping attends the 24th APEC Economic Leaders' Meeting in Lima, Peru, on Nov. 20, 2016. Xi is positioning China to take advantage of U.S. president-elect Donald Trump's opposition to the Trans-Pacific Partnership.
JU PENG, XINHUA/SIPA USA/TNS

The talks would amalgamate agreements already hashed out between the 10-member Association of Southeast Asian Nations and Australia, China, India, Japan, South Korea and New Zealand. China is the largest trading partner for most of the participants, a distinction it achieved with South Korea in 2003, Japan in 2005, India in 2008 and Asean in 2009.

While free-trade advocates argue the two deals would compliment rather than conflict with each other, RCEP talks had taken a backseat as Obama promoted the TPP as a way to keep China from writing the rules of the global economy. Trump’s Democratic opponent, Hillary Clinton, had also opposed the TPP, but many expected the former secretary of state to revisit it in some form if she won the election.

Trump pledged to act on Day One of his scheduled Jan. 20 inauguration to withdraw the U.S. from the TPP, which he called a “potential disaster for our country.” He said he would pursue two-way trade deals instead.

Xi, meanwhile, reaffirmed China’s commitment to trade and said deals such as RCEP would help integrate his country into the global economy. “We should deepen and expand cooperation in our region,” he said while attending the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation summit last weekend in Lima, Peru.

In talks in the Philippines just days before the U.S. election, ministers from RCEP nations issued a statement that “underscored the urgency” of reaching a deal due to the “soft outlook for world trade growth and increasing protectionist sentiment.”