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TPP failure would cost the US trade dominance

You don't even make sense. First you accused people who are against TTIP to be peasants, now it's the landed aristocracy. Not only that, our economy has been dependent on free trade second to none and obviously we never had problems with free trade particularly with the US outside of the EU. In other words, this treaty has nothing to do with free trade. :lol:

BTW, practically all my friends are conducting free trade either by themselves or by members of their family, regardless whether it's commodity or service.

If you moan about the high taxes, this has nothing to do with free trade, well, actually yes it does, it's the criminal Wall Street banking system that causes high taxes for the ordinary worker. But that probably is too deep for you to understand.
You can't really depend on immigration!
What kind of people will demonise their own countrymen?
 
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US is no more economy power. Its military is still unrival but a strong military need a huge economy to sustain. Sooner or later, China will bust US dollar game and US needs to prepare for the worst.
China is our extended global economy. Welcome to the Global World :usflag::police:,:china::moil:....


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TPP failure would cost the US trade dominance
By Dong Yan and Bi Jing
Source: Global Times Published: 2016/11/2

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Impacted by the US presidential election, there is a slim chance that the US-led Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) free trade agreement will take effect by the end of this year. The US Congress is unlikely to ratify the agreement as US President Barack Obama expected and one of the TPP member countries, Vietnam, has decided to hold off on initiating any legal procedures until after the US presidential election.

Considering the 12 participating countries' varied levels of economic development, the standard of the trade deal is likely to be lower than the "gold standard" previously used to describe the trade pact. In this regard, the benefits of adopting the TPP standard in practice are to some degree negated.

In the US, the working class has spoken out against the deal, as they believe it will transfer more domestic jobs to foreign countries. Especially in the country's traditional industrial heartland, workers have been strongly against the TPP due to a large industrial recession, despite Obama's insistence that the TPP would offer more opportunities for domestic workers and small- and medium-sized enterprises in the coming years.

However, it is still possible for the TPP to be approved by the US Congress during the period between when a new president is elected this November and when Obama leaves offices in January 2017.

According to chapter 30 of the TPP titled "Final Provisions," all countries need to ratify the agreement within two years of signing or "it shall enter into force 60 days after the expiry of this period if at least six of the original signatories, which together account for at least 85 percent of the combined GDP of the original signatories."

If the TPP does not receive legal approval from the US, which has the largest economic volume among the participant countries - which in total account for nearly 40 percent of global GDP - the trade deal will be doomed.

It has been less than a year since the TPP was signed by 12 participant countries in February 2016. Even if the deal is not passed by the US Congress by the end of the year, the new president could still change his or her stance on the TPP to push for legal approval of the deal within the mandated two-year period.

The TPP agreement is in the US' interest. In fact, Obama's efforts to shape and push for TPP negotiations can be attributed to the country's sluggish economic recovery since the 2008 global financial crisis. During this same period, the Asia-Pacific region has shown robust growth momentum by swiftly recovering from the crisis and becoming increasingly significant in the global economy.

At the same time, negotiations in multilateral trade agreements have reached an impasse. But the new trade rules shaped by the TPP agreement could potentially change the current status of fledgling and even distorted trade relations under the multilateral framework, facilitate trade liberalization and protect US' edge in international trade, strengthen economic ties the US has with other nations and ultimately solidify the US' leading status regionally and globally. The US is absolutely wise in making its push for the TPP.

After nearly six years of negotiations, the final contents of the TPP agreement have garnered the interest of the member countries and relevant interest groups, suggesting that the agreement is not a game.

All those countries need now is respective legal approval. While the participating nations "wait and see" what the US Congress will do, the US should be the last country that gives up on the extremely advantageous trade deal.

In the long run, the TPP represents the future for US trade and global trade. If the TPP agreement comes to an end at this stage, it would be a situation no participating nation would hope to happen.

The authors are research fellows with the Institute of World Economics and Politics at the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences, and with the Institute of European and Eurasian Studies at the Chinese Academy of International Trade and Economic Cooperation, respectively. bizopinion@globaltimes.com.cn
 
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TPP failure would cost the US trade dominance
By Dong Yan and Bi Jing
Source: Global Times Published: 2016/11/2

be7e1844-cfc5-44cd-91c5-baf823175d3f.jpeg



Impacted by the US presidential election, there is a slim chance that the US-led Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) free trade agreement will take effect by the end of this year. The US Congress is unlikely to ratify the agreement as US President Barack Obama expected and one of the TPP member countries, Vietnam, has decided to hold off on initiating any legal procedures until after the US presidential election.

Considering the 12 participating countries' varied levels of economic development, the standard of the trade deal is likely to be lower than the "gold standard" previously used to describe the trade pact. In this regard, the benefits of adopting the TPP standard in practice are to some degree negated.

In the US, the working class has spoken out against the deal, as they believe it will transfer more domestic jobs to foreign countries. Especially in the country's traditional industrial heartland, workers have been strongly against the TPP due to a large industrial recession, despite Obama's insistence that the TPP would offer more opportunities for domestic workers and small- and medium-sized enterprises in the coming years.

However, it is still possible for the TPP to be approved by the US Congress during the period between when a new president is elected this November and when Obama leaves offices in January 2017.

According to chapter 30 of the TPP titled "Final Provisions," all countries need to ratify the agreement within two years of signing or "it shall enter into force 60 days after the expiry of this period if at least six of the original signatories, which together account for at least 85 percent of the combined GDP of the original signatories."

If the TPP does not receive legal approval from the US, which has the largest economic volume among the participant countries - which in total account for nearly 40 percent of global GDP - the trade deal will be doomed.

It has been less than a year since the TPP was signed by 12 participant countries in February 2016. Even if the deal is not passed by the US Congress by the end of the year, the new president could still change his or her stance on the TPP to push for legal approval of the deal within the mandated two-year period.

The TPP agreement is in the US' interest. In fact, Obama's efforts to shape and push for TPP negotiations can be attributed to the country's sluggish economic recovery since the 2008 global financial crisis. During this same period, the Asia-Pacific region has shown robust growth momentum by swiftly recovering from the crisis and becoming increasingly significant in the global economy.

At the same time, negotiations in multilateral trade agreements have reached an impasse. But the new trade rules shaped by the TPP agreement could potentially change the current status of fledgling and even distorted trade relations under the multilateral framework, facilitate trade liberalization and protect US' edge in international trade, strengthen economic ties the US has with other nations and ultimately solidify the US' leading status regionally and globally. The US is absolutely wise in making its push for the TPP.

After nearly six years of negotiations, the final contents of the TPP agreement have garnered the interest of the member countries and relevant interest groups, suggesting that the agreement is not a game.

All those countries need now is respective legal approval. While the participating nations "wait and see" what the US Congress will do, the US should be the last country that gives up on the extremely advantageous trade deal.

In the long run, the TPP represents the future for US trade and global trade. If the TPP agreement comes to an end at this stage, it would be a situation no participating nation would hope to happen.

The authors are research fellows with the Institute of World Economics and Politics at the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences, and with the Institute of European and Eurasian Studies at the Chinese Academy of International Trade and Economic Cooperation, respectively. bizopinion@globaltimes.com.cn
TPP means US can contain CN and VN get more trade benefit.

If US president stop TPP,then its their own loss. US market will keepbeing flooded by Cnese products,more job loss in USA.
 
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TPP means US can contain CN and VN get more trade benefit.

If US president stop TPP,then its their own loss. US market will keepbeing flooded by Cnese products,more job loss in USA.

I think TPP no longer matters to China.

Bilaterally and multilaterally, China is opening up the region for greater trade and communication. Think about CAFTA and the OBOR.

The US is a whistling the old tune, an ideologically rigid, militarist power, at best. That, for all I care, is in fact a very anti-thesis of a government like Vietnam, which is, by ideology, progressive and pragmatist.

That explains why recently Vietnam opened up, reciprocally, almost 97% of its market to China's products with lower or zero tariff.
 
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TPP means US can contain CN and VN get more trade benefit.

If US president stop TPP,then its their own loss. US market will keepbeing flooded by Cnese products,more job loss in USA.

With a low-IQ, poorly educated but highly paid workforce, the US cannot compete either with China (for high-end things) or with Vietnam (for lower end products). This way or that way, the US is doomed.
https://defence.pk/threads/tpp-failure-would-cost-the-us-trade-dominance.459311/page-11#ixzz4P1ajdeFE
 
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When Vietnam wants to climb up the supply chain, they will block you guys if you r in TPP.
first, we need surplus from America to offset trade deficit with other nations. for instance, we suffer trade imbalance with China, while we accumulated $31 billion in 2015 alone. if TPP comes into force, we expect a higher trade volume, hence a bigger surplus. second, we expect a higher inflows of foreign investments as many want to set up factories to enjoy zero tariffs when exporting to America and Japan. it is not all about politics. true, TPP will put enormous pressure on VN economy as other TPP advanced nations with their sophisticated goods and services flood our domestic market.

http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5520.html

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first, we need surplus from America to offset trade deficit with other nations. for instance, we suffer trade imbalance with China, while we accumulated $31 billion in 2015 alone. if TPP comes into force, we expect a higher trade volume, hence a bigger surplus. second, we expect a higher inflows of foreign investments as many want to set up factories to enjoy zero tariffs when exporting to America and Japan. it is not all about politics. true, TPP will put enormous pressure on VN economy as other TPP advanced nations with their sophisticated goods and services flood our domestic market.
USA is fading, so they need to rush TPP.
 
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