Top 100 Most Influencial people in The Human History.

[Hyde]

JOIN : Muhammad Ali Jinnah

not an authentic source - anyway thanks

 

[Hyde]

@Zaki...

Well i tot its not better to bring it in this forum

But anyways since u touched on it i ll answer..

According to our mythology RAM
exactly didn exist in this age of man.
Let me go into detail:
There are 4 yugas in our belief (kreda,Threda,Thuvarabara,Kali)
In the first two Men were almost equal to God as they held truth in their hearts and Rakshas were the evil incarnations.
RAM existed in the Threda yuga and not in the Kali Yuga(present one) so he cant be included on the list.

Btw if that is included in the Game then sorry...Number 1 changes for me.

i know how RAM is...............you did not understand the intention of my last post............. and its off topic so lets get back to topic

 

[Kompromat]

not an authentic source - anyway thanks

Years in England
In 1892, Jinnah was offered an apprenticeship at the London office of Graham's Shipping and Trading Company, a business that had extensive dealings with Jinnahbhai Poonja's firm in Karachi.[10] Before he left for England, at his mother's urging, he married his distant cousin – Emibai Jinnah &ndash: who was two years his junior;[10] she died a few months later. During his sojourn in England, his mother too would pass away.[12] In London, Jinnah soon left the apprenticeship to study law instead, by joining Lincoln's Inn. It is said that the sole reason of Jinnah's joining Lincoln's Inn is that the welcome board of the Lincoln's Inn had the names of the world's all-time top-ten magistrates, and that this list was led by the name of Muhammad. No such board exists now, although there is a mural which includes a picture of Muhammad.[12] In three years, at age 19, he became the youngest Indian to be called to the bar in England.[12]

During his student years in England, Jinnah came under the spell of 19th-century British liberalism, like many other future Indian independence leaders. This education included exposure to the idea of the democratic nation and progressive politics. He admired William Gladstone and John Morley, British Liberal statesmen. An admirer of the Indian political leaders Dadabhai Naoroji and Sir Pherozeshah Mehta,[17] he worked with other Indian students on the former's successful campaign for to become the first Indian to hold a seat in the British Parliament.

By now, Jinnah had developed largely constitutionalist views on Indian self-government, and he condemned both the arrogance of British officials in India and the discrimination practiced by them against Indians. This idea of a nation legitimized by democratic principles and cultural commonalities was antithetical to the genuine diversity that had generally characterized the subcontinent. As an Indian intellectual and political authority, Jinnah would find his commitment to the Western ideal of the nation-state &ndasg: developed during his English education– and the reality of heterogeneous Indian society to be difficult to reconcile during his later political career.

Muhammad Ali Jinnah - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Hyde]

oh bas kar de chacha - I don't want Wikipedia or unreliable source.

Thanks for your time

 

[KS]

i know how RAM is...............you did not understand the intention of my last post............. and its off topic so lets get back to topic

Arey i think i ve answered the question in my last line....

though there is more than one contender in our religion...lol even the 100 places is not enuff...

 

[gubbi]

^ This is well researched article and they dont care about what you think about Mahatma and what we think about Jinnah .

Its based on their knowledge and understanding , that is why i have posted 3 different sources.

Regards:

You source, BB, is the work of a single person. All the sources you posted quote the only source found and that source is the list drawn by one Michael H. Hart! It was in his 1978 book that he drew up a list of 100 most influential people in history, the basis of the list being mostly ambiguous.

Did you purposefully leave out these parts?

FYI here is some info that you might want to go through:
The 100

The 100: A Ranking of the Most Influential Persons in History is a 1978 book by Michael H. Hart, reprinted in 1992 with revisions. It is a ranking of the 100 people who, according to Hart, most influenced human history.

Here is some more info on the author Michael H. Hart

Michael H. Hart (born April 28, 1932 in New York City) is a Jewish American astrophysicist who has also written three books on history and controversial articles on a variety of subjects. Hart describes himself as a Jeffersonian liberal, while his critics call him a conservative and a racial separatist.

Racial conferences
In 1996, Hart addressed a conference organized by Jared Taylor's "race-realist" organization, American Renaissance, on the need for a racial partition of the United States.[2] Hart proposed a three-way division with one part for white separatists, one part for black separatists, and one part left as multiracial nation. He said that that a peaceful, voluntary partition is the only way to prevent violence.[3]
At the 2006 American Renaissance conference, Hart, who is Jewish, had a public confrontation with David Duke, the former Grand Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan and former Louisiana state representative, over Duke's "antisemitic" remarks.[4][5]
Hart organized a conference held in Baltimore in 2009 with the title, Preserving Western Civilization. It was billed as addressing the need to defend "America’s Judeo-Christian heritage and European identity" from immigrants, Muslims, and African Americans.[6] Invited speakers included: Lawrence Auster, Peter Brimelow, Steven Farron, Julia Gorin, Lino A. Graglia, Henry C. Harpending, Roger D. McGrath, Pat Richardson, J. Philippe Rushton, Srdja Trifković, and Brenda Walker.[7]

So all my dear desi people, dont pay any attention to the list. Its just one man's list based on whatever preferences he might have had that day, including a sour mood after a bitter fight with his spouse!

Hope this is an eyeopener to y'all.

 

[Kompromat]

^ Refer to My Links provided.

 

[gubbi]

^ Refer to My Links provided.

I think in your excitement, you forgot to read that all your sources point out Hart's book as their source. The phrasing/reasons mentioned is almost exactly the same that there is in Hart's list.

Sorry, BB, but IMHO, you should have read the list and the source carefully before posting it.

I dont argue about the greatness of individuals on that list - each in his/her own right, but I do not agree with the list or the ranking. Some don't deserve to be on that list, some are not there on the list.

 

[Kompromat]

Gubbi if you have issues with the author then its not my problem , i have posted what i think was a well done research.

Obviously it is hard to get an accurate list as it is a big topic to cover but still its reasonable to me.

Thanks

 

[gubbi]

Gubbi if you have issues with the author its not my issue , i have posted what i think was a well done research.

Obviously it is hard to get an accurate list as it is a big topic to cover but still its reasonable to me.

Thanks

I dont have issues with the author. He is immaterial and his credentials are not noteworthy. His is but an arbitrary list. One man's arbitrary list doesnt work for the rest of humanity.

What I dont understand is you quoting this phrase "well done research". What exactly is this well done research? Can you please elaborate as to what were the criteria for selecting individuals for this list? You listed "3 sources" - which ultimately quote Hart's book! And yet you want to argue that the list is a well researched one?

It might be reasonable to you and a handful of few others, but IMHO and in the opinion of many many others, the list is as arbitrary/random as a list of your favorite fast foods or your favorite fast cars!

 

[Kompromat]

gubbi what exactly makes you think that this particular documant is not right ?

 

[gubbi]

gubbi what exactly makes you think that this particular documant is not right ?

Its just an arbitrary list! Simple.

For eg: Just speaking of the top 10, what is Confucious doing in the top 10? Or even Buddha? IMHO, there are philosophers and thinkers who have had much more profound impact on human history than Confucious. What kind of pathbreaking changes or influences did Buddha bring to earn a slot in top10? Why not Ram or Krishna - whose words on the battlefield are encompassed in a book entitled "The Bhagvad Gita" - who actually had a much more profound impact on the people of the sub-continent than anyone else - apart from Gandhi. Religious figures being in the top 10 list, IMHO, doesnt make any sense. Don't get me started on the reasons, its just sufficient that I dont care.

The list contains Martin Luther King. Great man, no doubt. But his effort was for the equal rights of Blacks only in the US. Thats it. Blacks had their freedom in Europe far before the US recognized them. Where is Abe Lincoln, who started it all in the US? Where is Mandela who fought against apartheid? And to top it all, Mahatma Gandhi was an inspiration to King and Mandela! No mention of his name?

Talk about Christopher Columbus. He just discovered the Americas or rather the Caribbean islands. The real discoverer of the Americas was the Italian seafarer, Amerigo Vespucci. His name isn't on the list.

Where is Che'? What about Edwin Hubble? If Jean Cousteau helped us understand the undersea world and developed the SCUBA gear, Hubble helped understand the expanding universe - the sequel to the BigBang, and his namesake orbital telescope is furthering our knowledge about the universe!

Llike I said, its an arbitrary list of individuals according to the whims of one man, who also, co-incidentally, happens to be a racist mofo.

 

[Kompromat]

Yet again you are judging him on your parameters , things dont work your way.

 

[gubbi]

Yet again you are judging him on your parameters , things dont work your way.

I gave you some of my reasons. I am not judging the author on my parameters. His work speaks for him.

Now I want to see your reasons for believing in the list or the reasons given by the original author for drawing up the list.

 

[AUSTERLITZ]

These are the Top 100 Most Influencial Human beings of Human History.

The 100 Most Influential People in History history - 3 years ago.

1. Prophet Muhammad (PBUH)

2. Isaac Newton

3. Jesus Christ

4. Buddha

5. Confucius

6. St. Paul

7. Ts'ai Lun

8. Johann Gutenberg

9. Christopher Columbus

10. Albert Einstein

11. Karl Marx

12. Louis Pasteur

13. Galileo Galilei
14. Aristotle

15. Lenin

16. Moses

17. Charles Darwin

18. Shih Huang Ti

19. Augustus Caesar

20. Mao Tse-tung

21. Genghis Khan

22. Euclid

23. Martin Luther

24. Nicolaus Copernicus

25. James Watt

26. Constantine the Great

27. George Washington

28. Michael Faraday

29. James Clerk Maxwell

30. Orville Wright and Wilbur Wright

31. Antoine Laurent Lavoisier

32. Sigmund Freud

33. Alexander the Great

34. Napoleon Bonaparte

35. Adolf Hitler

36. William Shakespeare

37. Adam Smith

38. Thomas Edison

39. Anthony van Leeuwenhoek

40. Plato

41. Guglielmo Marconi

42. Ludwig van Beethoven

43. Werner Heisenberb

44. Alexander Graham Bell

45. Alexander Fleming

46. Simon Bolivar

47. Oliver Cromwell

48. John Locke

49. Michelangelo

50. Pope Urban II

51. Umar ibn al-Khattab

52. Asoka

53. St. Augustine

54. Max Planck

55. John Calvin

56. William T.G. Morton

57. William Harvey

58. Antoine Henri Becquerel

59. Gregor Mendel

60. Joseph Lister

61. Nikolaus August Otto

62. Louis Daguerre

63. Joseph Stalin

64. Rene Descartes

65. Julius Caesar

66. Francisco Pizarro

67. Hernando Cortes

68. Queen Isabella I

69. William the Conqueror

70. Thomas Jefferson

71. Jean-Jacques Rousseau

72. Edward Jenner

73. Wilhelm Conrad Rontgen

74. Hohann Sebastian Bach

75. Lao Tzu

76. Enrico Fermi

77. Thomas Malthus

78. Francis Bacon

79. Voltaire

80. John F. Kennedy

81. Gregory Pincus

82. Sui Wen Ti

83. Mani

84. Vasco da Gama

85. Charlemagne

86. Cyprus the Great

87. Leonhard Euler

88. Niccolo Machiavelli

89. Zoroaster

90. Menes

91. Peter the Great

92. Mencius

93. John Dalton

94. Homer

95. Queen Elizabeth

96. Justinian I

97. fJohannes Kepler

98. Pablo Picasso

99. Mahavira

100. Niels Bohr

http://www.digalist.com/list/242
The 100 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Some mistakes obviously like euclid,beethoven.
if kennedy is in i can't see how they kept out gandhi and martin luther king and churchill.Also no karl von bismarck?

Number 1 is of course none mentioned on the list.
Its 'the man who discovered fire.'anonymous.