Today in hisotry: September 9th 1976 - Mao dies | HISTORY CALENDAR

[beijingwalker]

Today in hisotry: September 9th 1976 - Mao dies | HISTORY CALENDAR

 

[Place Of Space]

If our country founder knew the Indian took out forward policy again, what he would do?

 

[Dungeness]

All modern Chinese owe their gratitude to Mao. Without Mao and his revolutionary comrades, China could have been not much better than India.

 

[vi-va]

Before Mao was in charge, a broken China. China was invaded by dozens of countries, Chinese were slaughtered, women got raped by invaders and colonizers. An agriculture country, weak, chaos, divided by warlords.

One century of humiliation.

When Mao died in 1976, his legacy is a not rich but strong China. Beat US and so called 18 countries in Korea Peninsula, push them back to 38°. Beat India in 1962, push back aggressive Forward Policy. Build railway, bridges, dam, steel industry, military industry, weapons.

No one dare to invade China again. No humiliation again.

Mao is one of most respected Chinese in China history.

 

[Figaro]

If our country founder knew the Indian took out forward policy again, what he would do?

The Indian members in this forum would be speaking Chinese then ...

 

[Song Hong]

The spirit of Mao live with us forever.

 

[samsara]

Before Mao was in charge, a broken China. China was invaded by dozens of countries, Chinese were slaughtered, women got raped by invaders and colonizers. An agriculture country, weak, chaos, divided by warlords.

One century of humiliation.

When Mao died in 1976, his legacy is a not rich but strong China. Beat US and so called 18 countries in Korea Peninsula, push them back to 38°. Beat India in 1962, push back aggressive Forward Policy. Build railway, bridges, dam, steel industry, military industry, weapons.

No one dare to invade China again. No humiliation again.

Mao is the one of most respected Chinese in China history.

“In 1949 the newly established People's Republic of China was the POOREST country in the world with a GDP of $439 per head compared with $619 in India and $852 in Africa” — DR. ANGUS MADDISON 2001, page 264

And CHINA has GDP Nominal #2 from many years ago and GDP PPP #1 as of 2014!


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Share of world GDP throughout history

Share of world GDP throughout history by Dave Drabble - Infogram

Infographic exploring the trends in world GDP from 1AD to 2008AD.

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Since 1AD until today the world's changed quite a lot. But until 1700AD the balance of wealth had not. For the past two centuries the share of the world's GDP has shifted to the west to Europe through imperialism, and technological innovation. With the rise of China that's changing again and this infographic explores the story of balance and unbalance in the world economy courtesy of the data from the Maddison Project.

• At the peak [of the Great Colonization Ages], just 10 countries left uncolonised by Western Imperialism.
• And 62 treaty ports established in China by Western powers, 1841-1941

The 19th century appears to be the key juncture when China and India declined and the West rose. IMPERIALISM appears to be the most obvious answer given that before China was 'opened' in 1842 in the first OPIUM WAR, it had its greatest share of world wealth. Within a century of these interventions China went from 32% of the world's GDP to just under 5%.

Some Key Charts:

1820AD:

1870AD:

1913AD:

1950AD:

Graphic: Percentage of World GDP from Year 1700 to 2008 (Line & Area charts)

In the graphic below, the area for each country represents the share of the world's wealth. The rise in the share of wealth by the US and Europe is of similar proportion to the decline in wealth of India and China. The total area shown represents the amount of wealth that the seven selected countries have collectively. Note the decline of collective wealth in the last century as the rest of the world has begun to take a greater share of the global economy.

ORIGINAL WORKS OF THE LATE DR. ANGUS MADDISON


A brief intro about ANGUS MADDISON (1926 - 2010)

Angus Maddison was a world scholar on quantitative macroeconomic history, including the measurement and analysis of economic growth and development. He was professor at the University of Groningen from 1978 to 1997, and a founder of the Groningen Growth and Development Centre. This website "THE MADDISON PROJECT" provides access to major parts of Angus' work as well as to new work that is being conducted in his spirit.

Maddison Historical Statistics

Maddison Historical Statistics

www.ggdc.net

 

[Song Hong]

Mao took the blame for many things 背黑锅. Many Mao policies are good and still in existence but they are vilified by Deng for some reasons.

For example, people commune 人民公社 are the most productive agricultural farm. The Manchurian farms and Xinjiang Contruction Corps are merely rebranding of people commune, The Great Leap Forward see success finally after its initial failure.

Many elites in China are afraid of people discovering Mao today.

 

[samsara]

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Mao's faces are still all over the renminbi bank notes, and his Mausoleum in Beijing is still frequented by thousands over thousands Chinese visitors every single opening day.

So let us all remember the great contributions by Mao Zedong (70%) to the founding of the New People's Republic as well as his mistakes (30%) as Deng Xiaoping once said. But there is no point to dig the past nation's injury, in particular to antagonize one past leader against the other leader(s).


For anyone with sincere interests to learn about China's bleak period of the failed Great Leap Forward program to fast track industrialization and self-reliance, please read following fascinating articles:

Another Look at the Great Leap Forward

Another Look at the Great Leap Forward

blog.hiddenharmonies.org

Did Millions Die in the Great Leap Forward: A Quick Note on the Underlying Statistics

Did Millions Die in the Great Leap Forward: A Quick Note on the Underlying Statistics

blog.hiddenharmonies.org

A Conversation with Boi Boi Huong on the Great Leap Forward

Recently I had a chance to speak with Boi Boi Huong (mp3, audio play link below). Her family emigrated to Holland from Vietnam when she was young. While in college, she took a stronger interest in China, and in fact completing her thesis on the Great Leap Forward. The timing of her work was interesting, because this had been just couple of years following 1989. Western academia and press at that time were especially hostile to China and China’s political system. The Great Leap Forward has always being used in the Western press and academia to vilify Mao Zedong and his policies, especially with the millions of deaths coinciding that period. Once Huong found out a bit about the circumstances of that period, she was able to quickly figure out the dominant narratives in the West were flawed. (Make sure to also read Ray‘s excellent post, “Another Look at the Great Leap Forward” and Allen‘s robust analysis of the death numbers, “Did Millions Die in the Great Leap Forward: A Quick Note on the Underlying Statistics.”)

To the Chinese, Mao was a symbol of modern China. Under his leadership, ordinary Chinese were finally freed from imperialism, invasions, and centuries of miserable life. Mao is more than the mere mistakes he has committed. Nor is he any of that exaggerated sins pinned against him in the West.

Hidden Harmonies China Blog » A Conversation with Boi Boi Huong on the Great Leap Forward

blog.hiddenharmonies.org

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

1870AD:
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Wow even in 1870 with only 35 million people the US had achieved 50% of China's GDP with 350 Million people (BTW the current US population is still under 350M)

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

Before Mao was in charge, a broken China. China was invaded by dozens of countries, Chinese were slaughtered, women got raped by invaders and colonizers. An agriculture country, weak, chaos, divided by warlords.

One century of humiliation.

When Mao died in 1976, his legacy is a not rich but strong China. Beat US and so called 18 countries in Korea Peninsula, push them back to 38°. Beat India in 1962, push back aggressive Forward Policy. Build railway, bridges, dam, steel industry, military industry, weapons.

No one dare to invade China again. No humiliation again.

Mao is the one of most respected Chinese in China history.

this is why India = Late Qing. If you read 《呼伦河传》 by 肖红 you will see how the superstition, colonial weakness and poverty of India is exactly like Late Qing.

Every 鲁迅 novel could describe India. In particular, Ah-Q is the best fit.

 

[vi-va]

Mao took the blame for many things 背黑锅. Many Mao policies are good and still in existence but they are vilified by Deng for some reasons.

For example, people commune 人民公社 are the most productive agricultural farm. The Manchurian farms and Xinjiang Contruction Corps are merely rebranding of people commune, The Great Leap Forward see success finally after its initial failure.

Many elites in China are afraid of people discovering Mao today.

Manchurian farms and Xinjiang Contruction Corps is working very good today. Less pesticide, less labor, less water, high tech, high quality, higher production.

 

[beijingwalker]

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Wow even in 1870 with only 35 million people the US had achieved 50% of China's GDP with 350 Million people (BTW the current US population is still under 350M)

Countries rise and fall, that was one of the darkness point in the Chinese history, why you are so surprised? Some experts estimate during the good times China's estimated GDP was 70% of the world.