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Believe me i personally feel there is more corruption in Pakistan than in China. One thing the writer should have identified specifically here is Pakistan's Province of Punjab. He should have had that in his title instead of Pakistan, which gives the impression the whole country is on right path. He should relate to the points he discusses below



Professor Dan Hough is director of the Sussex Centre for the Study of Corruption at the University of Sussex, UK

The Independent Commission Against Corruption is 40 this year. But any suggestion that the ICAC model can be transferred to mainland China is wide of the mark. If Chinese officials want to seriously tackle corruption, then they are going to have come up with more innovative ideas than that.

The ICAC has a formidable reputation. A recent scandal about the inflated expenses of Timothy Tong Hin-ming may have caused a degree of consternation at home, but when anti-corruption agencies are discussed outside Hong Kong, it is never long before the "ICAC model" is mentioned.

The ICAC is the Rolls-Royce of anti-corruption agencies. It therefore shouldn't be too much of a surprise when questions are asked about what the mainland can learn from the ICAC's experience. Given the way contemporary China works, the answer to this question is straightforward: depressingly little.

If an ICAC-like agency were to have any traction in Beijing, then China's entire system of governance would have to be reshaped and remoulded. It would have to be given an independence that would place it above and (far) beyond the Central Commission for Discipline Inspection. It would need to have strong leadership and ample resources. And, most importantly, it would need to be free from political interference. With the best will in the world, any mainland ICAC is not going to be granted these things.

Practical moves to tackle corruption in China will therefore have to begin from rather different starting points. One such method is to genuinely empower citizens to report on any incidences of corruption that they've experienced. All anti-corruption campaigns claim to want to empower citizens, but very few do so in anything more than a superficial way.

One approach that might have mileage on the mainland, however, can be found in Punjab, Pakistan. Corruption in land transactions in particular reached such proportions in Lahore that the chief minister, Shahbaz Sharif, introduced a system, the Citizen Feedback Model, that would enable people to report corrupt transactions. The authorities created a platform to send a text to citizens who had dealings with local government offices, asking them about the quality of the service they had received, and, most pressingly, whether they had been asked to pay a bribe.

Over 2.1 million text messages have been dispatched since 2010 and over 8,000 cases of corruption have been reported. From that, officers can create so-called heat maps, illustrating where bribes tend to be demanded and how much has generally been paid.

The information isn't there solely to enable law enforcement to arrest corrupt public servants; the aims are more subtle. On the one hand, public servants who are suspected of feathering their own nests can be tested out by so-called "mystery customers". Corrupt officials can then be caught in the act. On the other hand, the very knowledge that the text message service exists is hopefully enough to channel the minds of some potential bribers. The system therefore has both carrots and sticks in it, as well as a degree of subtlety.

The Pakistan system clearly can't simply be transposed on to the whole of China. It does, however, have the advantage of empowering citizens to take action. It also doesn't go against the ethos of the current anti-corruption drive.

One thing successful anti-corruption work has to do is under-promise in the hope of overperforming. All too frequently, anti-corruption campaigns do the opposite in practice; overpromise but ultimately underachieve. Lahore's experiment might be one small way that China could begin to make progress


To fight corruption, Beijing should look to Pakistan | South China Morning Post
 
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Believe me i personally feel there is more corruption in Pakistan than in China. One thing the writer should have identified specifically here is Pakistan's Province of Punjab. He should have had that in his title instead of Pakistan, which gives the impression of actions impacting the whole country. He should relate to the point he discusses below



Professor Dan Hough is director of the Sussex Centre for the Study of Corruption at the University of Sussex, UK

The Independent Commission Against Corruption is 40 this year. But any suggestion that the ICAC model can be transferred to mainland China is wide of the mark. If Chinese officials want to seriously tackle corruption, then they are going to have come up with more innovative ideas than that.

The ICAC has a formidable reputation. A recent scandal about the inflated expenses of Timothy Tong Hin-ming may have caused a degree of consternation at home, but when anti-corruption agencies are discussed outside Hong Kong, it is never long before the "ICAC model" is mentioned.

The ICAC is the Rolls-Royce of anti-corruption agencies. It therefore shouldn't be too much of a surprise when questions are asked about what the mainland can learn from the ICAC's experience. Given the way contemporary China works, the answer to this question is straightforward: depressingly little.

If an ICAC-like agency were to have any traction in Beijing, then China's entire system of governance would have to be reshaped and remoulded. It would have to be given an independence that would place it above and (far) beyond the Central Commission for Discipline Inspection. It would need to have strong leadership and ample resources. And, most importantly, it would need to be free from political interference. With the best will in the world, any mainland ICAC is not going to be granted these things.

Practical moves to tackle corruption in China will therefore have to begin from rather different starting points. One such method is to genuinely empower citizens to report on any incidences of corruption that they've experienced. All anti-corruption campaigns claim to want to empower citizens, but very few do so in anything more than a superficial way.

One approach that might have mileage on the mainland, however, can be found in Punjab, Pakistan. Corruption in land transactions in particular reached such proportions in Lahore that the chief minister, Shahbaz Sharif, introduced a system, the Citizen Feedback Model, that would enable people to report corrupt transactions. The authorities created a platform to send a text to citizens who had dealings with local government offices, asking them about the quality of the service they had received, and, most pressingly, whether they had been asked to pay a bribe.

Over 2.1 million text messages have been dispatched since 2010 and over 8,000 cases of corruption have been reported. From that, officers can create so-called heat maps, illustrating where bribes tend to be demanded and how much has generally been paid.

The information isn't there solely to enable law enforcement to arrest corrupt public servants; the aims are more subtle. On the one hand, public servants who are suspected of feathering their own nests can be tested out by so-called "mystery customers". Corrupt officials can then be caught in the act. On the other hand, the very knowledge that the text message service exists is hopefully enough to channel the minds of some potential bribers. The system therefore has both carrots and sticks in it, as well as a degree of subtlety.

The Pakistan system clearly can't simply be transposed on to the whole of China. It does, however, have the advantage of empowering citizens to take action. It also doesn't go against the ethos of the current anti-corruption drive.

One thing successful anti-corruption work has to do is under-promise in the hope of overperforming. All too frequently, anti-corruption campaigns do the opposite in practice; overpromise but ultimately underachieve. Lahore's experiment might be one small way that China could begin to make progress


To fight corruption, Beijing should look to Pakistan | South China Morning Post
well hooray for our chief minister.
 
Corruption does not hinder a nation but efficiency.
Problem is Babus in South Asia take money then also they dont do work effectively,effectively and timely unlike China and other countries..
 
Corruption does not hinder a nation but efficiency.
Problem is Babus in South Asia take money then also they dont do work effectively,effectively and timely unlike China and other countries..
We dont call them babus! Lol funny name!
 
South China Morning Post is a news paper from Hong Kong and not under strict Chinese censorship. Chinese members are generally not very fond of this paper. They like their news censored. :lol:
 
South China Morning Post is a news paper from Hong Kong and not under strict Chinese censorship. Chinese members are generally not very fond of this paper. They like their news censored. :lol:

A very strong argument, and I support it completely, to all those pesky Chinese members, listen up look at our Fox news lovers, we'll show you objective.

Learn from us, you stupid Chinese members. You suck!

 
There is a lot of corruption in China, without any doubt. Especially with regards to local politicians.

However, they have to live with this knowledge:

China Sentences Former Railway Minister to Death - WSJ.com

Doesn't matter how powerful you are, doesn't matter how many friends you have in the Politburo.

Powerful politicians like Bo Xilai, even members of the Standing Committee itself, like Zhou Yongkang.

The Standing Committee is composed of the most powerful people in China. Yet even they are being caught in the net.

There is an old saying in Chinese:

"天网恢恢,疏而不漏" - The net of Heaven is wide and sparse, but nothing can escape its justice.
 
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