To counter OBOR, India pushes its own idea of connectivity to the world

[faithfulguy]

It's funny when you guys teach others economics. It's a mulitlateral grouping. This route was not a counter group to OBOR, the beefed up news title is just to grab attention.

The works began in 2009 even before Xi became premier, back in 2002 the route was proposed.

Now every PDF economists have opinion on everything, and they know nothing. The dry run results show the shipment costs were reduced by $150/ton of cargo. Since the number of days are reduced from 40 to 21 when transporting to Russia.

What is there for India to sell to Russia? India only supply raw materials, which Russia can provide itself. Also, won't it be less expensive if India go through Pakistan.

 

[BHarwana]

It's funny when you guys teach others economics. It's a mulitlateral grouping. This route was not a counter group to OBOR, the beefed up news title is just to grab attention.

The works began in 2009 even before Xi became premier, back in 2002 the route was proposed.

Now every PDF economists have opinion on everything, and they know nothing. The dry run results show the shipment costs were reduced by $150/ton of cargo. Since the number of days are reduced from 40 to 21 when transporting to Russia.

A container on a ship while traveling to a destination of long distance under goes economies of scale. when it get loaded and unloaded it becomes a new cost on every port and thus breaks economies of scale. lol no matter how many days are reduced it is never cost effective and Azerbaijan will never let you cross in until you break ties with Armenia and if you break ties with Armenia Russia will suspend trade with India so it is a complex situation. Good luck tho.

 

[Chhatrapati]

If India want to send product to Europe, it should either go by land or by sea. No point of putting it in a container ship, unloaded in Iran and send it from Iran by rail. How stupid is that!!!!!

India just need to stop attack Pakistan and pursue a friendly policy toward its neighbors so it won't be box in by its neighbors. It can then send goods through Pakistan directly to Europe by rail.

Not as stupid as the trolls who calculate profit and losses (Checking viability and cost through dry runs is done prior to flag off). And the feasibility of the project is also calculated by more than one party in the grouping. Don't tell me only China can make connectivity projects.
It is not a loan spree. Also, the advantage of the route is not limited to Europe or Russia or AZB.

What is there for India to sell to Russia? India only supply raw materials, which Russia can provide itself. Also, won't it be less expensive if India go through Pakistan.

There is nothing we can sell Russia and Russia can sell us. Both of us are two arid deserts. Where nothing grows and nothing is being build. Now you can relax.

 

[BHarwana]

What is there for India to sell to Russia? India only supply raw materials, which Russia can provide itself. Also, won't it be less expensive if India go through Pakistan.

Pakistan ah is the main thing that is f*** Indian economy because if Pakistan makes it easy for India they can send direct goods to Russia and Europe but we are at war.

 

[faithfulguy]

A container on a ship while traveling to a destination of long distance under goes economies of scale. when it get loaded and unloaded it becomes a new cost on every port and thus breaks economies of scale. lol no matter how many days are reduced it is never cost effective and Azerbaijan will never let you cross in until you break ties with Armenia and if you break ties with Armenia Russia will suspend trade with India so it is a complex situation. Good luck tho.

India should look at the map can realize that instead of going around Europe, it can go directly up the Volga river through the Black Sea and Dardanelles. So they clearly come up with a even more ridiculous alternative to make their stupid idea sound good.

 

[Chhatrapati]

A container on a ship while traveling to a destination of long distance under goes economies of scale. when it get loaded and unloaded it becomes a new cost on every port and thus breaks economies of scale. lol no matter how many days are reduced it is never cost effective and Azerbaijan will never let you cross in until you break ties with Armenia and if you break ties with Armenia Russia will suspend trade with India so it is a complex situation. Good luck tho.

For the n'th time. That's why feasibility of the project is done prior to begin construction of the project. And that was found to be economically viable. Hence we continue to finance and support the project.

Also, your will's and will be's will be's can make you feel good. But sorry, this project is already being put to use.

 

[BHarwana]

For the n'th time. That's why feasibility of the project is done prior to begin construction of the project. And that was found to be economically viable. Hence we continue to finance and support the project.

Also, your will's and will be's will be's can make you feel good. But sorry, this project is already being put to use.

Sir which project is being put to use?
The road going from Iran to Azerbaijan was already there and is used by Pakistan as well and China as well to send goods. India never made those roads. Taking credit of already built road lol wtf.

 

[faithfulguy]

Not as stupid as the trolls who calculate profit and losses (Checking viability and cost through dry runs is done prior to flag off). And the feasibility of the project is also calculated by more than one party in the grouping. Don't tell me only China can make connectivity projects.
It is not a loan spree. Also, the advantage of the route is not limited to Europe or Russia or AZB.



There is nothing we can sell Russia and Russia can sell us. Both of us are two arid deserts. Where nothing grows and nothing is being build. Now you can relax.

India is not making any connectivity project. It just announce that it's using existing ports to do things in a round about way that is not cost efffective. But to make it look good, it's being compare with another round about way. This might fool you Indian gullible but one look at the map will reveal that this is a publicity stunt. Nothing will come out of it.

 

[Chhatrapati]

Pakistan ah is the main thing that is f*** Indian economy because if Pakistan makes it easy for India they can send direct goods to Russia and Europe but we are at war.

Through troubled Baluchistan, then to Iran and Russia. Or through war torn Afghanistan?
Man, the Pakistani route do not help us to connect to Russia easily. But we can have access easily to other central Asian countries through Pakistan. Although the trade with these countries are still meager.

 

[BHarwana]

Through troubled Baluchistan, then to Iran and Russia. Or through war torn Afghanistan?
Man, the Pakistani route do not help us to connect to Russia easily. But we can have access easily to other central Asian countries through Pakistan. Although the trade with these countries are still meager.

I have gone 30 time to Iran by road and to Azerbaijan. For Pakistanis Azerbaijan has Visa on arrival.

 

[Chhatrapati]

India is not making any connectivity project. It just announce that it's using existing ports to do things in a round about way that is not cost efffective. But to make it look good, it's being compare with another round about way. This might fool you Indian gullible but one look at the map will reveal that this is a publicity stunt. Nothing will come out of it.

Ok Einstein. Anymore gibberish?

Sir which project is being put to use?
The road going from Iran to Azerbaijan was already there and is used by Pakistan as well and China as well to send goods. India never made those roads. Taking credit of already built road lol wtf.

Who said anything about India giving incentives for construction? That's why I already said, this is not a loan spree one country dominated project. May be it's too much for you to grab.

https://en.trend.az/business/economy/2313106.html

https://azertag.az/en/xeber/_039Con..._railway_to_be_launched_this_year_039-1024897

http://www.railway-technology.com/projects/northsouthtransnatio/

 

[Jlaw]

India will succeed.haters gonna hate. After US , India is the other supapowa. I sense Chinese jealousy lol.
India will make it work via vedic math or whatever it takes.

 

[Chhatrapati]

I have gone 30 time to Iran by road and to Azerbaijan. For Pakistanis Azerbaijan has Visa on arrival.

Good for you. Like I said, we don't think it's a loss to exclude Pakistan or for Pakistan not allowing transit of Indian goods. We simply took alternative ways.

 

[BHarwana]

For the n'th time. That's why feasibility of the project is done prior to begin construction of the project. And that was found to be economically viable. Hence we continue to finance and support the project.

Also, your will's and will be's will be's can make you feel good. But sorry, this project is already being put to use.

I think it time to remind you that Pakistan is a member country of ECO the big summit that took place in Pakistan about which Modi sarkar was crying. all the countries India plans to use it route through are in ECO lol noobs.

Economic Cooperation Organization

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_Cooperation_Organization

 

[Chhatrapati]

I think it time to remind you that Pakistan is a member country of ECO the big summit that took place in Pakistan about which Modi sarkar was crying. all the countries India plans to use it route through are in ECO lol noobs.

Lol, so how much trade you have done. Why is that your country is still struggling with exports.

Also why is Pakistan important in the discussion? Coffee club (Which Pakistan is a member (anti UNSC)) groupings doesn't matter much. This is in no way connected to Pakistan trade. Or have any effect on Pakistan. Unlike our trades with Afghanistan.

Keep spinning theories, it's a good read.

and there you go nice and clean lines and short distance lines on paper. Great achievement.

Yeah it is an achievement. The project is almost completed and the lines become a reality.