TLP - Ittna Sannata Kyon Hai, Bhai? / Brother, Why There Is So Much Silence?

[Hamza913]

They haven't been silent idk where this came from

Hafiz Saad Hussain Rizvi urges authorities to take decisive steps against India after blasphemy

He was addressing a rally in Lahore when TLP organized Namoos e Risalat rallies across the country

tlyp.org.pk

TLP is a mercenary faction of DGISPR.

Then why have they condemned their actions in Balochistan?

 

[Sayfullah]

Remember this is the same TLP which threatened nation wide protests if Supreme Court supported Imran Khan’s decision on NCV.
These guys were ready to burn the country again just a couple weeks ago over “defending the constitution”

 

[Sayfullah]

When TLP was holding protests and making noise people were calling them names. Now they are censored by the media and face threats by the establishment, people are calling them out to protest. Double standards. When Sahd Rizvi was arrested by PTI for 6odd months without any charges, wasn't that illegal? Against the law? I believe TLP have been warned by the top Ulema to take it easy and not cause big issues otherwise things will go out of control, they are still speaking against blashphemy, India. They already know the establishment will not allow them any power. Karachi elections were rigged to remove TLP from NA seats. The establishment cannot tolerate Imran Khan never mind someone like TLP.

Before they weren’t holding protests, they were burning down the country.
Speaking is easy
Jamaat e Islami faces many more challenges yet still with their little support and many challenges they held protests against Indias blasphemy
Saad Rizvi was arrested because his own close people filled a case against him and he was arrested for just 6 months. What’s that compared to people of Jamaat Ud Dawa or others who’s members and leaders have been killed, arrested or silenced while they never did anything to harm Pakistan
Hafiz Saaed despite having massive backing still and despite having thousands of fighters ready still hasn’t uttered a word against the state or army while they illegally detain him for years an press all sorts of “terrorism” charges against them
Karachi elections were not rigged, TLP lost all its support when it tried to burn down the country
Establishment was giving handouts to TLP protestors and getting all arrested protestors released
What has TLP ever done to harm india ever? Words don’t harm anyone. TLP can only talk or make excuses
Just few years back when TLP was busy with its political protests, mujahideen from Jamaat e Islami and other parties were wrecking havoc on Indian posts on LOC and busy hunting down khawarij deep inside Afghanistan
All TLP has ever done is destroy and burn Pakistan.

 

[Hussain93]

They are active but they are not getting any media coverage.

every party has adopted path of violence in the past. TLP is still facing media censorship. Their social media accounts are still being blocked/suspended. Mainstream media has been barred by PEMRA to give any kind of media coverage to TLP.
They are calling the govt of Pakistan to declare JIHAD against india since day 1.

Bro its typicall of these zehni bonays who have malafide intention whenever they speak about religious person or parties , they know damn well tlp is treated way worse then Any other political party of Pakistan. They are the only who protest whenever its rigilious issue of national issue while these cleanshaves and their leaders never come on street when its religious case . These ppl know and expect only molvis to come out while these ppl and their leader Just give islamic touch to things behind the camera.

they are such low LIFE who Will never come on street for protest when it Comes to religiouse cause but Will talk on the sidelines against molvis and religious folks who are protesting and letting their voices heard to these begairats ruling us.

 

[Parwaz e Ishq]

The open blasphemous remarks by Indian politicians in the media against Islam forced many Muslim countries to register their protest and condemnation, which even forced the Indian government on the back foot.

One thing is seemed very irritating in the Pakistan scenario:
TLP which always shows her face as the most loyal 'Islamic' party to Islam and Prophet Muhammad SAW is criminally silent in registering their protest. Even they didn't claim to ouster the Indian High Commissioner and sever all diplomatic links with India.

Last time, they were very active against France and wanted to expel the French Ambassador, for the purpose even they adopted the path of violence.

My questions are:

• Is this party really a loyal party as it claims?
• A pawn of the establishment for arm twisting - as and when required by the establishment to reign the political parties?

When TLP was holding protests and making noise people were calling them names. Now they are censored by the media and face threats by the establishment, people are calling them out to protest. Double standards. When Sahd Rizvi was arrested by PTI for 6odd months without any charges, wasn't that illegal? Against the law? I believe TLP have been warned by the top Ulema to take it easy and not cause big issues otherwise things will go out of control, they are still speaking against blashphemy, India. They already know the establishment will not allow them any power. Karachi elections were rigged to remove TLP from NA seats. The establishment cannot tolerate Imran Khan never mind someone like TLP.

Bro its typicall of these zehni bonays who have malafide intention whenever they speak about religious person or parties , they know damn well tlp is treated way worse then Any other political party of Pakistan. They are the only who protest whenever its rigilious issue of national issue while these cleanshaves and their leaders never come on street when its religious case . These ppl know and expect only molvis to come out while these ppl and their leader Just give islamic touch to things behind the camera.

they are such low LIFE who Will never come on street for protest when it Comes to religiouse cause but Will talk on the sidelines against molvis and religious folks who are protesting and letting their voices heard to these begairats ruling us.

 

[PakAlp]

Before they weren’t holding protests, they were burning down the country.
Speaking is easy
Jamaat e Islami faces many more challenges yet still with their little support and many challenges they held protests against Indias blasphemy
Saad Rizvi was arrested because his own close people filled a case against him and he was arrested for just 6 months. What’s that compared to people of Jamaat Ud Dawa or others who’s members and leaders have been killed, arrested or silenced while they never did anything to harm Pakistan
Hafiz Saaed despite having massive backing still and despite having thousands of fighters ready still hasn’t uttered a word against the state or army while they illegally detain him for years an press all sorts of “terrorism” charges against them
Karachi elections were not rigged, TLP lost all its support when it tried to burn down the country
Establishment was giving handouts to TLP protestors and getting all arrested protestors released
What has TLP ever done to harm india ever? Words don’t harm anyone. TLP can only talk or make excuses
Just few years back when TLP was busy with its political protests, mujahideen from Jamaat e Islami and other parties were wrecking havoc on Indian posts on LOC and busy hunting down khawarij deep inside Afghanistan
All TLP has ever done is destroy and burn Pakistan.

Jamat e Islami? The same Jamaat which refused to support Pakistan army military operations in Tribal areas? The same Jamaat which declared the terrorists as mujahdeens and martyrs? The same Jamaat which declared Pakistan army soldiers are not martyrs. Remember this was at the time when Pakistan army was stuck, if they start the operations they would be declared as Usa agents and if they stayed quiet then terrorism would have destroyed Pakistan. Jamat Dawah who brainwash young children for deadly suicide attacks? I would certainly say they are no better.

TLP is a new Jamaat, and I dont agree with them as I believe they don't know much about politics, and at times make wrong statements. PTI and other Jamaats also protested and blocked Pakistan, other Islamic jamaats supported the terrorists and Lal Masjid mullahs. I dont see any condemnation.

 

[Parwaz e Ishq]

I have observed in this thread that almost all IK fanboys have anti-TLP mindset/mantra. or they want religious parties out of politics.

Keeping above in mind, IK fans have some questions to answer.

1. What is Islamic Touch? (esp. on 26May2022)
2. Some posters were against TLP's demand of expelling French Ambd back then. It was illegal for them. Now, when IK is not in power, demand of expelling endian ambd becomes legal ?
3. IK & his fans didn't come back after 25thMay2022 brutality of Federal & Provincial (except KPK & GB) establishments. IK barely lasted 1 day in Islamabad. IK's govt dished out same tyranny on TLP in 2019 & 2021. In what moral capacity, his fanboys are demanding/wishing TLP should be on streets? (b/w TLP protests lasted more than 1day in 2021)

& I think TLP is no longer the same force as it was in 2020.

IK first entered into agreement with them but later took usual u-turn.

 

[PakAlp]

I have observed in this thread that almost all IK fanboys have anti-TLP mindset/mantra. or they want religious parties out of politics.

Keeping above in mind, IK fans have some questions to answer.

1. What is Islamic Touch? (esp. on 26May2022)
2. Some posters were against TLP's demand of expelling French Ambd back then. It was illegal for them. Now, when IK is not in power, demand of expelling endian ambd becomes legal ?
3. IK & his fans didn't come back after 25thMay2022 brutality of Federal & Provincial (except KPK & GB) establishments. IK barely lasted 1 day in Islamabad. IK's govt dished out same tyranny on TLP in 2019 & 2021. In what moral capacity, his fanboys are demanding/wishing TLP should be on streets? (b/w TLP protests lasted more than 1day in 2021)

& I think TLP is no longer the same force as it was in 2020.

IK first entered into agreement with them but later took usual u-turn.

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They desperately want TLP to come and fight against PDM. I have seen plenty of anti TLP posts but it was the same TLP which PTI government shelled, made false accusations against, killed 35+ people, then declared them as terrorists. PDM did exactly the same with PTI.

My issue is why whenever a government comes in power then suddenly they become all untouchable, why not follow the same principles and values you preach when not in power. Pakistani people need to stop falling for these traps, don't blind follow leaders and parties, hold them accountable.

Why didn't PTI make reforms in the first year of power? EVM, overseas Pakistani votes, powerful Independent election commission, new provinces, changes in the health system, police system, lawyers, new tax authority etc, they should have made these changes straight away, I understand Judicial reforms are difficult but is there 1 police station in Pakistan which doesn't do corruption, take bribery, 1 lawyers office which will help us get justice or give us right advice or make sure when we buy property they will get the paperwork right so we don't get robbed?

Imagine all Pakistani awaam praising and trusting a corruption/bribery free police station in Islamabad, a lawyers office. Why couldn't this be done?

 

[Hussain93]

For islamic touch potians who want tlp supporter to fall for their anti amricanism.


Know what you did!

In Pakistan the only change can come from ppl who are molvis OR mullahs because unlike cleanshaves most molvis /mullahs are not soldout, unlike socalled educated cleanshaves who is full of Slavish DNA and cant recite bismillah ,mullah know their history and are one of few breed in that currupt nation who are committed to An ideology .

 

[PakAlp]

For islamic touch potians who want tlp supporter to fall for their anti amricanism.

Know what you did!

In Pakistan the only change can come from ppl who are molvis OR mullahs because unlike cleanshaves most molvis /mullahs are not soldout, unlike socalled educated cleanshaves who is full of Slavish DNA and cant recite bismillah ,mullah know their history and are one of few breed in that currupt nation who are committed to An ideology .

In the western world, the most corrupt and sellouts are the educated people who follow western way of life, they spy on the Muslims and tell their MPs to get in their pockets, they don't mind haram acts, they may be doctors or businessmen but lick boots for money and career. The Mullahs have no power, not even in the mosques as the committee control it. But to be fair if they had the power then with their statements all Masjids would be closed or overtaken by the government.

The Mullahs can recite the Quran but cannot implement it in their lives, cannot deal with the issues facing us, cannot understand the consequences. The real Ulema are quiet because they know the fitna from the secular/liberals and Mullahs

The reality is as a nation we have issue with our mental state, we don't seem to know how to deal with issues, how to make ourselves strong, we dont read books, seek education. If my statement is not true then Pakistan would have been like Malaysia. Our potential could make us reach the .

 

[YaqoobAlam]

The open blasphemous remarks by Indian politicians in the media against Islam forced many Muslim countries to register their protest and condemnation, which even forced the Indian government on the back foot.

One thing is seemed very irritating in the Pakistan scenario:
TLP which always shows her face as the most loyal 'Islamic' party to Islam and Prophet Muhammad SAW is criminally silent in registering their protest. Even they didn't claim to ouster the Indian High Commissioner and sever all diplomatic links with India.

Last time, they were very active against France and wanted to expel the French Ambassador, for the purpose even they adopted the path of violence.

My questions are:

• Is this party really a loyal party as it claims?
• A pawn of the establishment for arm twisting - as and when required by the establishment to reign the political parties?

Actually TLP did protest:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1534599684483948545

Hafiz Saad Hussain Rizvi urges authorities to take decisive steps against India after blasphemy

He was addressing a rally in Lahore when TLP organized Namoos e Risalat rallies across the country

tlyp.org.pk

TLP announces countrywide <em>Namoos e Risalat</em> rallies this Friday

Demands government to take 'paractical' steps against India amid blasphemous comments by ruling party's spokesperson

tlyp.org.pk

Indian leaders condemned over blasphemy

LAHORE:Thousands of people across the country took to the streets after Friday prayers to condemn the Indian ruling party BJP leadership for committing willful blasphemy of Holy Prophet , demanding...

www.thenews.com.pk

 

[Crimson Blue]

TLP is a mercenary faction of DGISPR..

Damn Right ...........

 

[AZMwi]

For islamic touch potians who want tlp supporter to fall for their anti amricanism.


Know what you did!

In Pakistan the only change can come from ppl who are molvis OR mullahs because unlike cleanshaves most molvis /mullahs are not soldout, unlike socalled educated cleanshaves who is full of Slavish DNA and cant recite bismillah ,mullah know their history and are one of few breed in that currupt nation who are committed to An ideology .

sad reality is that Pakistan has been taken over by certain religious factions who have close ties with Iran and saudi arabia and also a certain religious cult based in UK.

 

[Enigma SIG]

Then why have they condemned their actions in Balochistan?

PA has been fighting it's own demons since time immemorial, nothing new.

 

[Olympus81]

One of my wishes is to see when PTI coming into power (BIG IF) is to go after these establishment created stooges.

MQM, TLP, BAP. They are arms of establishment through which they spread fear and manage elections.