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Time To Wake India Up: The Probability Of War With China Is Now Close To The 50 Per Cent Mark

We need a clear and present danger to push our military to start seeking Indian firms to help shore up the defense.

Nothing like the threat of war to push the defence industries forward. Let the games being. :tup:
At least even your media is admitting Doval is in Beijing to offer concessions, notice how Indians don't think they are the ones asking for a face saving retreat, instead they are pinning it on China. China had been very consistent with their policy, this is not an Indo-China dispute, India has no right to intervene, if they did, we will intervene on behalf of the deposed Sikkim king.
 
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China has been expanding its reach all throughout Asia Pacific region ++. Doklam is not an isolated incident.China got strategic momentum.

Only a day before, Chinese daily /Global Times/ ran an editorial targeting NSA Doval and how he is the main schemer. It spoke of how no resolution should be expected till India withdraw its troops.

Chinese foreign minister Wang Yi also waded into the debate and said: "The rights and wrongs are very clear and even senior Indian officials have openly stated that Chinese troops did not enter into the Indian territory."

"In other words, the Indian side admitted to entering the Chinese territory. The solution to this problem is very simple: conscientiously withdraw," he said. That such statements are being made as Doval travels to Beijing is being seen as a very clear escalation from the Chinese side.

Before Doval, it was Foreign Minister Sushma Swaraj who got caught in the crosshairs of the Chinese media, who called her a liar for her statement in Parliament where she had asked for a mutual withdrawal as a solution to the standoff.

I guess, war premise is inevitable.
Now the siuation is quite interesting. Even if India wants to withdraw the troops, our diplomatist has already blocked theirs way back. So India has to stay there. They are hijacked by theirs populism.
On the other hand, we are working hard to take the high moral ground. And some stupid Indian keep screaming China just gives empty threatens.
In yesterdays TV interview, our military official said:"India can't leave without paying the bill.".
Let's just sit down, and watch the coming show.
 
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Dumb indians falling to China's trap easily. Now China has a proper excuse to liberate multiple areas from indian reign of terror. Tine for indians to say goodbye to a large chunk of their territory.
 
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Dumb indians falling to China's trap easily. Now China has a proper excuse to liberate multiple areas from indian reign of terror. Tine for indians to say goodbye to a large chunk of their territory.

Actually India has walked into a trap of its own making. China has no obligation to help Modi and his advisors out with a face-saving exit. India created the mess in the first place. Cleaning it up is going to be difficult. The whole thing is coming to a head soon, if India refuses to withdraw. China can't afford to let India stall for time too much longer before bad weather sets in. Let's wait and see what happens next.
 
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I think the probability of war is very low as IA knows they are not capable to stand against PLA so long and yes this is the fact, so they are going back very soon IMO.
 
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The chances of war are now inching towards the 50 per cent mark from where it will become inevitable.

India has to accelerate its preparation for war, and also prepare the people for it.

The Nifty should wait for clearer signals that war is off the table before heading for the 10,000-mark and higher peaks.



Barring a few isolated voices of caution, there seems to a benign assumption in the commentariat and the Indian media that China will not risk a war over the Dokhlam standoff, where the Dragon was surprised by India’s unexpected decision to stare it down. Let’s not forget that the Dragon is breathing fire repeatedly, and at some point it may be forced by its own rhetoric to make good on its threats.

Even though the Indian Army is digging in for a long eyeball-to-eyeball situation and even a short war, the rest of India continues to live in la-la land, with the stock exchanges hitting new peaks. The Nation Stock Exchange’s Nifty crossed the 10,000-mark for the first time yesterday (25 July), when it should actually be pencilling in a war threat to the economy in the short- to medium-term. It should hold its exuberance for some time later this year.

Hope is now building around the visit of National Security Adviser (NSA) Ajit Doval’s visit to Beijing for attending a BRICS summit of NSAs, but this is unlikely to result in any immediate cooling of tensions.

The reality is that neither India nor China can afford to back down. That means war remains a strong possibility.

What can Doval offer China that will force the Dragon to pull back from the brink of war and war rhetoric? At best he can offer face-savers to allow China to get out of the corner it has painted itself into. The question is whether China will accept these face-savers.

And what could these face-savers be? They could include a new tripartite panel to deal with Bhutan-Sikkim-Tibet tri-junction demarcation, the promise of more business for Chinese infrastructure companies using the huge trade surpluses that China currently generates, a lowering of India’s opposition to China’s Belt and Road Initiative (BRI) as long as this does not include the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor which transgresses into the parts of Kashmir now in Pakistani control, etc.

India cannot offer more, for once it does that, it would mean acquiescing in Chinese attempts to nibble away territories without any war. Its strategy of intimidation and war rhetoric would have won, sending a chilling message of Indian pusillanimity when it comes to dealing with that bully.

The face-savers we can conceivably offer will simply not be enough, for China could possibly have got these concessions even without raising temperatures over the Dokhlam Plateau.

The possibility of war thus needs to be analysed from the Chinese side. Having upped the ante, it is more than likely that China cannot back down from its position on Dokhlam without emboldening all the other countries that it has border problems with.

The presumption on the Indian side is that any war, whether lasting two weeks or even a month, will do China’s international position more damage and hence it will not push us too far. But this is not how the Chinese behave. Unlike democracies, which worry about economic losses in the pursuit of geopolitical and military power, China always seems willing to endanger short-term economic gains in the pursuit of long-term military supremacy.

In fact, in the current Dokhlam standoff, not going to war may seem like a loss to the generals and Xi Jinping backers, since it will damage China’s credibility as a country that backs intimidation with real military might, with a willingness to use it. Threats and intimidation are of no use if they are not actually made good on once in a while.

The argument inside China may thus be tilting towards the inevitability of a short war, even if it is not going to result in any major gains on the ground. A war validates its war rhetoric of the last month. A China that will go to war sends its own message to smaller nations, and that message may be more important than the damage it could cause to existing relationships in Asia.

If I were a betting man, I would not bet on Doval coming back with a “peace in our time” smile. The chances of war are now inching towards the 50 per cent mark from where it will become inevitable.

India has to accelerate its preparation for war, and also prepare the people for it. The Nifty should wait for clearer signals that war is off the table before heading for the 10,000-mark and higher peaks.


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LOL....Cheerleaders with pompoms .

All thi randi rona in the name of probability...
By the way.. do you know that China has refused to bail out Pakistan by not agreeing to pay 500 Million dollars.... that will be needed to pay next Kisth of IMF loan.
 
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do you know that China has refused to bail out Pakistan by not agreeing to pay 500 Million dollars
they have investing more then 500 million dollars in CPEC.
you want to say they refused as they think war is gonna happen so good to have reserves?
 
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China plans to invest 62 billions dollars in CPEC, if I am right.
Yes... Chinese debt that will be used to pay Chinese companies...who will employee Chinese people... and use Chinese components to make road that will be used by Chinese to export product made in West China... and Pakistanis will be guarding the road and fixing flat tyres for truck that would be rolling down in made by China road.
 
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Yes... Chinese debt that will be used to pay Chinese companies...who will employee Chinese people... and use Chinese components to make road that will be used by Chinese to export product made in West China... and Pakistanis will be guarding the road and fixing flat tyres for truck that would be rolling down in made by China road.
Nonsense. Those companies are requested to employe as many local people as possible. Many Pakistan work and learn advance technology in Chinese company.
Pakistan is our iron brother, we know how to guarantee theirs benefit.
 
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I almost feel sorry for the Nangi bhooki army.
Can they fight a modern war?
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I have no hopes, bro...Indian army is infested by corrupt senior officers who don't give supplies to their lower rank jawans (soldiers)....Indian army is not well fed.

Indian army is of no match to Chinese army. Chinese soldiers look more well trained and professional...While Indian soldiers keep committing suicide and shooting their high rank officers

http://www.rediff.com/news/report/jk-major-shot-dead-by-jawan-over-mobile-phone-rebuke/20170718.htm
 
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At least even your media is admitting Doval is in Beijing to offer concessions, notice how Indians don't think they are the ones asking for a face saving retreat, instead they are pinning it on China. China had been very consistent with their policy, this is not an Indo-China dispute, India has no right to intervene, if they did, we will intervene on behalf of the deposed Sikkim king.

LOL...ok :lol:
 
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I have no hopes, bro...Indian army is infested by corrupt senior officers who don't give supplies to their lower rank jawans (soldiers)....Indian army is not well fed.

Indian army is of no match to Chinese army. Chinese soldiers look more well trained and professional...While Indian soldiers keep committing suicide and shooting their high rank officers

http://www.rediff.com/news/report/jk-major-shot-dead-by-jawan-over-mobile-phone-rebuke/20170718.htm
When I look at the soldiers at the border, the Chinese look well clothed and armed, the Indians except for the Sikh commander seems shabbily clothed and only has an AK.
 
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I kind of find it really funny when Negative High IQ Chinese crow on that how big economy they have got and how strong Chinese army , they forget that Chinese that grew so much in three decades , not with fighting and picking wars with everyone , it's by selling Cheap Chinese Toys .

If they start fighting wars they will make themselves and everyone else very poor with hardly cash left sell or buy Chinese goods .

China GDP per Capita : 8K$
US GDP per Capita : 57k$

If Chinese starts fighting war with india and it will make Both export driven Chinese cheap Manufacturing sector and Chinese communist party , history .
 
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