Time to turn Doval's doctrine on its head and get out of this stalemate situation.

[M.Bison]

May be, but not likely at all IMO. Let us wait and see what actually happens in this matter as it continues to develop.

Yeah, maybe. I don't understand why we Pakistanis are so surprised. Did we actually think that after defeating India in Afghanistan that we would go towards peace with India. This is a direct reaction to the game inside of Afghanistan. India is trying to drive Pakistan towards war and they would actually want a revolt in Kashmir. That way they will start going door to door to arrest the lay people and then force them to accept its term. They will stage a terrorist attack and then try and bomb Pakistan again.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

Definitely. Diplomacy is very important, but must go hand in hand with some fireworks. The Kashmiris feel very badly betrayed. Even those Kashmiris that believed siding with India was opportunistic. They feel demoralized and betrayed.

Pakistan should support the Kashmiri cause as it always has. In fact it should now up the ante. India is very vulnerable. They are trying to contain the situation by a lock down, but for how long. This is our window of opportunity. Let's strike with vengeance. If India tries to engage in another kamikaze mission we need to be fully prepared. In other words, the 27th should seem like a walk in the park.

Modi has put Kashmir back on the agenda. We must make most of this opportunity as all is justified.

Where there is a will there is a way...

 

[iby32]

Hope for the good(which is highly unlike case because our neighbour is very extreme) prepare for worse

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Unilateral taks bear no fruits

a) Arm Kashmiri
b) Support Khalistan Movement and Kashmir Movement
c) Do Bilateral agreement with Khalistan Prime Minister or Leadership
d) Go in and free Kashmir , Khalistan


Make Khalistan Most Favorable Nation to Pakistan

 

[VCheng]

Accepting status quo is no option for Pakistan.

Not accepting the status quo is great. But the real question is how to change it in any meaningful manner, because not being able to effect any significant changes means the status quo persists.

Yeah, maybe. I don't understand why we Pakistanis are so surprised. Did we actually think that after defeating India in Afghanistan that we would go towards peace with India. This is a direct reaction to the game inside of Afghanistan. India is trying to drive Pakistan towards war and they would actually want a revolt in Kashmir. That way they will start going door to door to arrest the lay people and then force them to accept its term. They will stage a terrorist attack and then try and bomb Pakistan again.

If what you say is true and India is indeed trying to drive Pakistan towards war, then do you think it is in Pakistan's interests to do so willingly?

 

[ziaulislam]

I feel like we will end up in stalemate with UN/diplomatic zameer ajagar strategy. We need to take initiative and I thought I should share what can be some steps to get out of this stalemate situation.
1. 1000 CUTS POLICY
Yes we can do it and do it legally. Now that 370 is not in effect then India is unilaterally occupied power and Kashmir is occupied zone and therefore the current LOC is ceasefire line. Now that removing 370 caused all the previous agreement between Pakistan and India ineffective therefore they are not bound to ceasefire because all those mutual agreement of ceasefire are nullified.
So we can pick out 1000 enemy posts and bunkers in IOK and start capturing them slowly no matter how long it takes. It can result in following scenarios
A India declaring war on Pakistan and invade mainland. This is what Pakistan wants India to initiate war in internationally recognized boundry and Pakistan as defender.
B. India will beg to talk and Pakistan aill be in driver seat and set the terms to talk.

2. Kashmir Army officially
Since Azad Kashmir got it's own govt and with removal of 370 Azad Kashmir can lay claim to IOK and build up its own independent army and be in state of war from its formation. It's a perfect legal cover under international law. As soon this army is formed it signs a defence pact act with Pakistan Army.
It will give Pakistan immunity from international laws and instead of Pak vs India it will be India vs Kashmiri army supported by Pakistani army. Its similar to what US did with Taiwan and China situation.

kashmiris are not happy but people of jammu and ladkh are okay..(as hindhus and sikhs have a sizeable population there..)
divide and rule..kahsmir will be chopped and ruled..and people of kashmir are to be blamed for their internal divisions as we saw in palestine

 

[M.Bison]

If what you say is true and India is indeed trying to drive Pakistan towards war, then do you think it is in Pakistan's interests to do so willingly?

Unfortunately, Pakistan doesn't have a choice. Either fight or get chewed out. Thats he choice that has been laid out by the kuffar.

 

[VCheng]

Unfortunately, Pakistan doesn't have a choice. Either fight or get chewed out. Thats he choice that has been laid out by the kuffar.

Let's see how PMIK decides to proceed with this choice.

 

[omegalamba7XL9]

We know this fucker is in Kashmir can't we get him hit?
I heard that Modi following Israeli plan of Palestine in Kashmir well let us also play that game and start getting rid of those brains who masterminded this genocide.
Biggest shock to whole India would be getting rid of Doval. Use everything under God greens earth and take this Ajit Doval fucker out. He is basically overseeing this whole Kashmir operation he should be primary objective cut the head of snake. If he is taken out while he is in Kashmir then it will send a statement to whole world.
Even one good rock to his head will do the trick. Or one Kashmiri while smiling and laughing engaging in talk get in close and stab the mother fucker.
It will send massage to rest of those chaddi men that you come to Kashmir come on your on risk and if Doval got his *** shook then rest will stay where they are

 

[Ghareeb_Da_Baal]

#kashmirgovernmentinexile
Make this go viral
#kashmirgovernmentinexile
This exile gov't needs to be setup in Pakistan

 

[Handshake]

Nope we won't and the reason is
He is failed in Afghanistan.
He has failed BLA.
He has failed PTM.
He has Failed TTP.
He has failed to isolate Pakistan.
He is failed sabotaging US and PAK relationship.
He has pushed CHINA more towards Pakistan.
He among modi Has given another fresh breath to khalistan movement.
He will be Failed in Kashmir but it's just a matter of time.
Indian economy is fake with wrong numbers and I fear this silly guy would bleed India more within time.
the world has business interest in India yet but on other side people's got really tired of Indian terrorism lies and Kashmir incident proved that BJP is nothing but just racist and extremist hindutva fanatic party among supporters.
later or sooner bye bye India.

 

[untitled]

He is failed in Afghanistan.
He has failed BLA.
He has failed PTM.
He has Failed TTP.
He has failed to isolate Pakistan.
He is failed sabotaging US and PAK relationship.

He still has blood of innocent Pakistanis and even Indians (in his false flags) on his hands. But shouldn't we be talking of hanging his pet Kulbushan Yadhav?

 

[Handshake]

He still has blood of innocent Pakistanis and even Indians (in his false flags) on his hands. Shouldn't we be talking of hanging his pet Kulbushan Yadhav

Who knows maybe sooner or later he will be hanged.

 

[shambhu]

We know this fucker is in Kashmir can't we get him hit?
I heard that Modi following Israeli plan of Palestine in Kashmir well let us also play that game and start getting rid of those brains who masterminded this genocide.
Biggest shock to whole India would be getting rid of Doval. Use everything under God greens earth and take this Ajit Doval fucker out. He is basically overseeing this whole Kashmir operation he should be primary objective cut the head of snake. If he is taken out while he is in Kashmir then it will send a statement to whole world.
Even one good rock to his head will do the trick. Or one Kashmiri while smiling and laughing engaging in talk get in close and stab the mother fucker.
It will send massage to rest of those chaddi men that you come to Kashmir come on your on risk and if Doval got his *** shook then rest will stay where they are

not a good move .

 

[FuturePAF]

A government in exile would be a good move, but it should be in a neutral nation with a large Kashmiri population like Britain.