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Time for Vietnam to join the NATO?

What do you think? Should Vietnam join the NATO?

  • Yes

    Votes: 7 33.3%
  • No

    Votes: 11 52.4%
  • Yes but ...

    Votes: 3 14.3%

  • Total voters
    21
Russia has nothing to gain from China alliance. Russian conflict of interests are in Europe which China is no position to help

1% or 5% of GDP - China cannot attack any country without getting attacked back.

The collection of countries for potential anti-China alliance is large - USA, Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, Philippines, Vietnam, Indonesia, India, New Zealand and Australia
NATO
No Action Talk Only.


If anyone honestly believe USA or any of these nations will gang up in a real war with China today. Think again.

According to history and in the 19th Century, China was at its weakest divided and isolated, 8 Western nations forcifully occupied part of China. CPC was formed in 1912 by patriotic students to resist these imperialistic nation and the newly emerged Meiji Japan.

But today China is strong and a Mega Thermonuclear Superpower, there will be serious consequences.
War are fought differently nowadays as 2 Chinese Colonels author decades ago.

Look at Australia, she will be in a prolong recession with a contracting economy.
Fight a what war???
Better manage her economy before it gets any worse.

China used to be her best and biggest export destination and now which nation is she going to exports her commodities too.

There is of course, a way, price them way below market price, China will definitely buy them. That is what free market is all about.
No need to complain to WTO. China is a customer and she has the right to choose which nation she wish to buy from.

Back in 2014 Australia follows her master USA and imposed tariff on steel and aluminium from China.
China did not responds and told Australia to look ahead and not to damage their bilateral relationship. WTO ruled against these tariff.

Then Australia did the most nasty thing in singling out China and called for an independent investigation on the origin of COVID from Wuhan.

Now China joined 100 nations to investigate into the cause of COVID 19. They never single out any nation.

USA refused to sign and quit WHO. But why? Simple. This means WHO has the right to investigate the leak at Fort Detrick Biological Warfare Laboratory in Maryland in 2019 way before Wuhan.

https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1204960.shtml
 
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The US support came later.
Pol Pot was supported and militarily armed by communist China. We knew the goal was clear: to encircle Vietnam from the western flank. Ten thousands of chinese military advisers were arrested and sent to prison camp when Cambodia fell.

Cambodian king escaped to China and Pol Pot escaped to Thailand, this is some result of these historical affair.
 
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NATO
No Action Talk Only.


If anyone honestly believe USA or any of these nations will gang up in a real war with China today. Think again.

But today China is strong and a Mega Thermonuclear Superpower, there will be serious consequences.
War are fought differently nowadays as 2 Chinese Colonels author decades ago.

If China acts the way it does you will face anti-China alliance just like the old USSR faced it
FYI NATO won the cold war without firing a single shot
 
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If China acts the way it does you will face anti-China alliance just like the old USSR faced it
FYI NATO won the cold war without firing a single shot
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China is not the former Soviet Union.
Never ever compare China to the former Soviet Union. Even Gorbachev is lamenting today. He blamed himself for trusting Reagan whose promises got buried with him.

China is basically an old nation built from a very strong foundation.

That is why all the forecast by the West has gone awry and so off course.

Try using a new yardstick.

Today the division within NATO is quite conspicuous.
So all these displays by some of the membership are as useless as ASEAN.

ASEAN stance is not in unison as presumed.

Thanks to Trump unilateralism. Each nation do have its own national interest to protect. If they are forced to choose a side, it may not be USA.
https://www.thestar.com.my/news/foc...ate-pompeos-visit-seemed-more-like-a-farewell
 
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Their history of fighting (successfully) against the French, the Japanese, the French again, the US, and China in order to secure their independence and territorial integrity is almost unmatched in the 20th century.
One should not overlook the fact that the Vietnamese were also responsible for the ousting of a genocidal and insane ruler named Pol Pot in Cambodia, who happened to be a Chinese ally, and whom the Chinese supported. This was the primary reason why China attacked Vietnam in 1979 at a time when a substantial part of the PAVN was in Cambodia. The Chinese regulars ran into the Vietnamese militia and received a savage mauling. If Vietnam received sufficient modern military equipment from either Russia or the US, along with naval support, I rather doubt that the Chinese would find it feasible to overrun and hold Vietnam. After all, off and on they've tried for around 1000 years to do this without much success.
Because the ancient Chinese didn't want to live in the tropics.The place where the ancient Chinese poet Su Dongpo was exiled for his political struggles was Guangdong. Forcing ancient Chinese to immigrate to Vietnam was tantamount to a death sentence. Vietnam was the equivalent of an American state in ancient China. Every Vietnamese king had to be canonized by China or be seen as a rebel.But even so the Vietnamese have long not been recognized as Chinese, which some say is why they hate China.

Now the good news for The Vietnamese is that China still doesn't want to live in Vietnam, so China won't occupy Vietnam.So is the bad news .
 
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