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A Tibetan former nun in her thirties has given a harrowing account of her rape by Chinese Peoples Armed Police (PAP) officers after she was caught attempting to escape from Tibet near the border with Nepal. Although the incident happened four years ago, in September 2005, the pattern of abuse the former nun describes is consistent with other reports of the treatment of Tibetans caught attempting to escape into exile. Numerous Tibetan sources report facing torture and hard labor when caught by PAP border security during the journey into exile or from Nepal, although cases of rape appear to be less common.

The Tibetan woman, who has now arrived in India and asked for full details of her identity to be withheld, told ICT that she was first detained in a village near the border called Kuchar in Burang (Chinese: Purang) County, with another six people from her village in Ngari Prefecture, the Tibet Autonomous Region (TAR), including two children. They were arrested by the PAP border security at the border and taken to a border security facility somewhere near Burang County. Tenzin, 38, had escaped earlier into exile so that she could practice her religion freely. She was educated at Bir Suja school run by the Tibetan government in exile for three years, then moved to a monastery in Dharamsala where nuns can also study.

In 2005, her father became very sick and her family asked her to travel back to Tibet to see him. She did so, and stayed there for three months. It was when she was attempting to escape back to India that she was detained by PAP security.

Tenzin said: "About two weeks after I returned to see my father, they [the local authorities] somehow came to know that I came from India. Then they started visiting my house very frequently and asked me questions like: Why did I go to India? What is the reason to come back again? They also took me to a place that looks like an army barracks and also to the township headquarters for interrogation. The Chinese authorities are increasingly suspicious of Tibetans who attend Tibetan government in exile-run schools and religious institutes, as they consider them to have been influenced by ideas of separatism."

Tenzin continued: "It was so disturbing that I could not stay in peace. When other people go back to their country, it is supposed to be a time of happiness and family reunion. But for me and for all Tibetans, there is no way that we can enjoy family reunion and moment of happiness of returning to our homelands. It is like a hell of the world, I really mean that, all those ordeals I faced it is really like hell in the world. I don't think that even after I died, I would know such an ordeal."

Tenzin prepared to escape and traveled to the border area of Burang where she and her group were stopped by five soldiers at a checkpoint. Speaking in Chinese, they told Tenzin and the others to get out of the car and show their identity cards. They were then taken to a nearby army barracks, which Tenzin describes as being at least two hours drive away. She said: "I was taken to a very dark room. There was one Tibetan soldier, who asked me if I was a nun" [Tenzin's head was shaved, but she was wearing laymans clothing].

I replied yes, then he said: "You are Dalai's running dog, you betrayed our great nation. They then beat me with whatever they had in their hands, with batons and army belts. Later on I could feel nothing as my body was numb due to the beatings and kicking, and I fell unconscious , but what was worse than the beating was to hear a Tibetan soldier calling me Dalai Lama's running dog. How can a Tibetan do that?"

Tenzin found herself in another cell, handcuffed, when she regained consciousness. They had separated her from the group she was with and began to interrogate them all separately, asking why they had come back from India.

After five days of interrogation and beatings, Tenzin and the rest of the group were transferred to a detention center. She says: "For many days they locked me up in a solitary confinement cell which was big enough for only one person. Both my arms and feet were handcuffed to a wooden bed. Then one night the light was switched off, and two prison guards came into the cell and told me that I had to take some medicine. I said I was not going to take any medicine. I thought that time that they were going to kill me by giving me that medicine. So I struggled to shake my head while they were forcing to put the medicine to my mouth but they forced me to swallow it down by pouring water into my mouth and blocking my nose by pressing it. [The type of medicine or drug given to Tenzin is not known.] After that, two guards went out and chatting with each other outside the cell. Then moments later they came in, and I sensed something bad was going to happen, I screamed as loud as I could in the hope that someone would come to stop them. But all was in vain, one of the guards covered my head with his coat and was trying to stop me from screaming while the other raped me. Later I fell unconscious. I dont know if that was because of the medicine they gave me or out of fear. I could not feel anything, especially the lower part of my body."

Tenzin considered trying to kill herself, but says that her feelings of guilt about the two children in the group were too strong. When she asked the guards to let her meet the children, as she was responsible for taking them to India, the border guards told her that because she had tried to make the children Dalai's running dog she deserved what was happening to her.

Tenzin was transferred to a police department in the Ngari region for seven days and then to a labor re-education camp, láodòng jiàoyng , abbreviated láojiào ). This is a system of administrative detention that is generally used to detain persons for minor crimes such as petty theft or crimes against the state for periods of up to four years. Re-education through labor sentences are given by police, rather than through the judicial system. One of the Tibetan officials told her: "Your brain became very dirty and needs to be cleaned. You betrayed our nation by becoming Dalai’s running dog. So you have to clean your thoughts. You are going to a labor camp, where you will study and work, and you have been sentenced to three years."

She said: "For the first eight days in the labor camp, they locked me in a solitary confinement [cell] with hands handcuffed, and no any water at all, except a small amount of food that was hard to eat. After that, they (the prison authorities) told me that I had to study and work, and undergo military training as well. The study that they meant is that I had to confess what I did was wrong, actually I did nothing wrong but having been to India, and be obedient to what they say."
 
Jackdaw,

The interesting part is that the revel on the irrelevant and get personal, but astutely avoid the critical issue that they raise about Hun Culture, chromosomes, Hans being one homogeneous whole, that they all speak the same language, that Tibet and Xinjiang are oasis of Paradise when all of them are debunked, not only from non Indian sources, but also from the Chinese, Xinhua sources!

A pathetic lot of ill informed people or very well rehearsed and indoctrinated flood the cyberspace in tandem in such a manner that the bad points are somehow forgotten in the flurry of posts shot through by a whole lot of them in rapid succession.

Read what the BBC wrote about the 50 Cent Army of China.

While I don't say that anyone of the 50 Cent variety, but the pattern adopted here makes me wonder!
 
two pathetics indian trolls is fully at work here one even spend more time here than in his own site LOL. Listen or reply to this 2 shamless trolls is like a high caste in india be friend a low caste is it a crime and many would consider a death penalty for such crime , we chinese should bear this in mind.
 
two pathetics indian trolls is fully at work here one even spend more time here than in his own site LOL. Listen or reply to this 2 shamless trolls is like a high caste in india be friend a low caste is it a crime and many would consider a death penalty for such crime , we chinese should bear this in mind.

I don't speak nor understand gibberish - please say what you are try to in comprehensible English. Thanks.
 
Jackdaw,

The interesting part is that the revel on the irrelevant and get personal, but astutely avoid the critical issue that they raise about Hun Culture, chromosomes, Hans being one homogeneous whole, that they all speak the same language, that Tibet and Xinjiang are oasis of Paradise when all of them are debunked, not only from non Indian sources, but also from the Chinese, Xinhua sources!

A pathetic lot of ill informed people or very well rehearsed and indoctrinated flood the cyberspace in tandem in such a manner that the bad points are somehow forgotten in the flurry of posts shot through by a whole lot of them in rapid succession.

Read what the BBC wrote about the 50 Cent Army of China.

While I don't say that anyone of the 50 Cent variety, but the pattern adopted here makes me wonder!

Their indoctrination is very similar to that of the German population during the height of the Third Reich - they are very patriotic - which is a good thing but they don't realize that you can be patriotic by questioning the policies of your government as well. In most countries - a stable opposition develops which opposes governmental policies - either through democratic norms or by taking up arms and through an armed resistance. The fact that this does not happen in China shows that the general population is meek and enjoys being ruled. They enjoy being told what to do. Poor people like the Tibetans who are steamrolled are dismissed as trouble makers.
 
two pathetics indian trolls is fully at work here one even spend more time here than in his own site LOL. Listen or reply to this 2 shamless trolls is like a high caste in india be friend a low caste is it a crime and many would consider a death penalty for such crime , we chinese should bear this in mind.

which is this version of english??????
i do not understand what you mean.
 
The fact that this does not happen in China shows that the general population is meek and enjoys being ruled.

More racism from Jackdaws, and a "thank you" from TheDeletedUser as well. :lol:

I guess I should be happy, that you're no longer saying that "Chinese people are cannibals" right?

Here is another very recent gem from Jackdaws:

Please - these concepts are too evolved for simple Chinese peasant minds -
 
More racism from Jackdaws, and a "thank you" from TheDeletedUser as well. :lol:

I guess I should be happy, that you're no longer saying that "Chinese people are cannibals" right?

Racism in his post? Lol? You may need to brush up on what that actually means before embarking another futile mission to prove Indians are racist. Now don't keep trolling.
 
Racism in his post? Lol? You may need to brush up on what that actually means before embarking another futile mission to prove Indians are racist. Now don't keep trolling.

Oh give it a rest, you are exactly as complicit as him when you thanked his above post. :lol:

Comparing us to the Nazis and going for the regular stereotype that "Chinese are meek and enjoy being ruled" despite the fact that China has had constant revolutions throughout it's history. The current government in fact was created by a People's revolution.

Please - these concepts are too evolved for simple Chinese peasant minds -

And let's see you try explaining this very recent one. :rofl:
 
Oh give it a rest, you are exactly as complicit as him when you thanked his above post. :lol:

Comparing us to the Nazis and going for the regular stereotype that "Chinese are meek and enjoy being ruled" despite the fact that China has had constant revolutions throughout it's history. The current government in fact was created by a People's revolution.



And let's see you try explaining this very recent one. :rofl:


It's none of your business why I thank his post(s). It it bothers you, too bad! Now run along.

:coffee:
 
It's none of your business why I thank his post(s). It it bothers you, too bad! Now run along.

:coffee:

LOL no answer...

You thank his posts because he is racist against Chinese people, not only with the above quotes but with his famous "Chinese people are cannibals" line. :P

I don't mind though, so don't take it personally. Since I don't really expect anything else.
 
LOL no answer...

You thank his posts because he is racist against Chinese people, not only with the above quotes but with his famous "Chinese people are cannibals" line. :P

I haven't seen any other posts by him so I can't help you there and how nice of you to tell me why I do what I do when you know nothing about me. Speaks volumes of who's stereotyping who here.


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I don't mind though, so don't take it personally. Since I don't really expect anything else.

This bit must be a joke. If you didn't take it personally, you wouldn't be whining about in every thread. Now stop trolling. You won't be getting another reply.
 
I haven't seen any other posts by him so I can't help you there and how nice of you to tell me why I do what I do.

Hey, it's my opinion. Obviously I am not a mind-reader. :D

Off the record, I think it upsets you that I "thank" some posts which you find disagreeable, so you are replying in that same tit-for-tat manner, in which we have become accustomed to. The difference is that I always avoid thanking any posts which are openly racist.

I don't claim any moral high ground here, and I don't hold any personal grudges, not even against Jackdaws for saying that Chinese people had simple peasant minds.

Believe it or not, but it's a great sense of affirmation, seeing these Indian opinions here.
 
I haven't seen any other posts by him so I can't help you there and how nice of you to tell me why I do what I do when you know nothing about me. Speaks volumes of who's stereotyping who here.

This bit must be a joke. If you didn't take it personally, you wouldn't be whining about in every thread. Now stop trolling. You won't be getting another reply.

Stop being so sensitive lol. :D

You thanked a racist post, so what? Maybe it's a subconscious thing.
 
Chinese-Dragon has been consistently lying - I have never said "Chinese people are cannibals" - this seems a usual ploy to deviate from discussing atrocities against Tibetans and other minorities.

I did say, "Please - these concepts are too evolved for simple Chinese peasant minds" - when someone was claiming that Sonia Gandhi and Rahul Gandhi are Italians and I was trying to explain the concepts of rights of naturalized citizenry in a democratic environment. Not that there is anything wrong in being a peasant either.
 
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