This new China competition act bill will escalate world issues

[ZeEa5KPul]

whatever gave you the idea that the US is building infrastructure? we are going to use your belt and your roads to move manufacturing out of China. It's whatchamacallit win- win

What makes you think it's your manufacturing to move? You lost it when you brought it to China in the '80s and '90s, it's over now. Your economy will collapse and no one will want your funny money long before you make a dent in Chinese manufacturing.

 

[CAPRICORN-88]

Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

But for those who have been promoting US supremacy it must be so humiliating and un-American.
The beginning of the future trend.
Look further East beyond Nippon.

 

[Viva_Viet]

whatever gave you the idea that the US is building infrastructure? we are going to use your belt and your roads to move manufacturing out of China. It's whatchamacallit win- win

True, its time to slap 25% tariff to Iphone, chips, laptops manufacturing in CN now

 

[dbc]

What makes you think it's your manufacturing to move? You lost it when you brought it to China in the '80s and '90s, it's over now. Your economy will collapse and no one will want your funny money long before you make a dent in Chinese manufacturing.

Then there is no reason for you to be flustered - is there?

I‘m sharing what I believe is being discussed between the White House and the captains of US industry. The US will make credit available to local entrepreneurs in strategic locations to take on contract manufacturing for Western businesses. This with a blend of local subsidies and tax holidays a la the Chinese model, will help US business leverage capacity and infra the Chinese built with CPEC / BNR in nations like Pakistan, Indonesia and Ethiopia and so on..

This isn’t being done to punish China but the vulnerabilities of over dependence on China has surfaced in boardrooms in the west by a combination of the trade war, deteriorating relations, Xi Jinping’s / Trump policies and COVID. It is Western industry that is asking for help to diversify and de-risk supply chain.

 

[tower9]

They should’ve been doing this 15 years ago to be honest

 

[ZeEa5KPul]

Then there is no reason for you to be flustered - is there?

Not in the slightest. Whatever gave you the impression that I was flustered? I merely pointed out your erroneous thinking about your position in the world.

I will admit that I do harbour certain misgivings about what America might do if the last horse finally crosses the finish line and it internalizes that China is going to eclipse it no matter what. But we're still far from that - America hasn't progressed past wishful and magical thinking, as you amply demonstrate. Hope springs eternal in the American mind, after all.

If the day ever comes that the horse really does cross the finish line, well, the DF-41 & Co. will ensure that America's subsequent insanity doesn't go too far.

This with a blend of local subsidies and tax holidays a la the Chinese model, will help US business leverage capacity and infra the Chinese built with CPEC / BNR in nations like Pakistan, Indonesia and Ethiopia and so on..

Splendid. You can set up a few garment factories alongside the Chinese ones and those countries could more easily service the debts they've accrued to China.

It is Western industry that is asking for help to diversify and de-risk supply chain.

Once again, America fights yesterday's wars. Your problem isn't that PPE is being made in China, your problem is that the next generation of semiconductor, aerospace, biomedical, etc. technology is going to be made in China. Of course, you dismiss this certainty with your usual silly tropes about Chinese being unable to innovate and advanced technology requiring Freedom(tm); like I said, hope springs eternal in the American mind.

 

[dbc]

the next generation of semiconductor, aerospace, biomedical, etc. technology is going to be made in China

China is far from being a leader in any of the domains you listed. China may one day get there but that doesn’t mean the US will stop competing or that the Chinese lead will continue in perpetuity. Competition is good for everyone..

 

[Beast]

whatever gave you the idea that the US is building infrastructure? we are going to use your belt and your roads to move manufacturing out of China. It's whatchamacallit win- win

You want low quality iphone or 3 x price of iphone? Please choose one after move out of made in China.

 

[dbc]

You want low quality iphone or 3 x price of iphone? Please choose one after move out of made in China.

I don’t think Apple quality suffers from non Chinese manufacturing. I have an AirPod pro made in Vietnam and a Mac made the US ..works just fine. Even if it doesn’t my rights as a consumer is protected and I can return the device for a full refund.

 

[Beast]

I don’t think Apple quality suffers from non Chinese manufacturing. I have an AirPod pro made in Vietnam and a Mac made the US ..works just fine. Even if it doesn’t my rights as a consumer is protected and I can return the device for a full refund.

Airpod is a much simpler device. Smartphone is a different level. Those made in vietnam heavily benefit from China imported raw component and parts. Ask apply why didnt he setup factory at Mexico instead of Vietnam? Becos Vietnam benefit from importing many made in China component to allow made in vietnam.

 

[ZeEa5KPul]

We use Robots for manufacturing phones now, so the quality of Iphone, Samsung products is almost the same .

Only stupid Wumao will keep convincing people that Cn can make better quality phones, so they wont lose thousands to millions working in Foxconn

Yeah, we need CN rare earth, keep selling to the last tons

You know, I think you should try an interesting thought experiment. Let's say you're right about everything and Vietnam achieves such stellar growth and takes every bit of business away from China. What do you think will happen then? Don't you think a jealous and vengeful China would just invade Vietnam and destroy this economic miracle you dream of? Why not, it wouldn't take more than 100 ZTZ-99As to completely wreck the place. Nothing the West could do to stop it either, since China would have nothing left to lose.

 

[CAPRICORN-88]

And the Vietnamese Government gain ZERO taxes for all these type of investments except for a few dogs sorry dongs for the slave workers.

So easy to please. No wonder low end Chinese manufacturers are moving their factories there.

I wonder why the West News Media do not care less for these slavery by Chinese in Vietnam?

 

[Pangu]

Lol, if things are simple as some asswipes on pdf believed, China would have collapsed decades ago. Keep on dreaming.

 

[Viva_Viet]

Lol, if things are simple as some asswipes on pdf believed, China would have collapsed decades ago. Keep on dreaming.

Things are every simple when Biden slap 25% tariff on Iphone, chips, laptop manufacturing in CN.

VN also can manufacture Samsung phones, Airpod, Airpad and laptop well now while VN was removed from money manipulation list few days ago

 

[antonius123]

@MOD you this crazy troll keep harassing PDF member and derailing the thread.He can't explain why 50 cent ( wumao) is slur, but he keep making trouble.

Pls delete all of his posts here so PDF can keep discussing abt new Cn competition act.

You need to put some heavier thought on your aggresive post, otherwise it is just a mere troll.

Members are willing to enlighten you, but if you do too often they will be tired to enlighten and clarify you on and on while you just feel free to throw low level trolling comments.

Your intention to pollute this forum with trolling post is very identifiable