This new China competition act bill will escalate world issues

[antonius123]

$140 x3 or = $420 per family ?? U forces CN kids to earn upto 140USD per month ?? not mentioning "earning less than 140" mean many Cnese maybe earn just abt 50 USD per month.

btw, why u love to talk abt CN when dont even feel ashamed when guys like u cant help your country make 3G phone ??

You are so dumb

The 600 millions must be people including teenage, kid and baby, not just workers.

And if you know that baby and kid doesnt work, hence you should realize that it must be their parent that work. That means only the father or mother who work to get each of family member $140, so if Chinese family consist of 1 child, hence the family member is 3, thats why you need to multiply by 3.

Where did you learn math?

Do math!

 

[Viva_Viet]

You are so dumb

The 600 millions must be people including kid and baby, not just workers.

And if you know that baby and kid doesnt work, hence you should realize that it must be their parent that work. That means only the father or mother who work to get each of family member $140, so if Chinese family consist of 1 child, hence the family member is 3, thats why you need to multiply by 3.

Where did you learn math?

Do math!

Whatever, I only talked wt u abt ID's matter, seem like u are false flagger and just try to make PDF members think that CN got strong support from ID.

End of discussion . I don't waste time wt a false flagger

 

[antonius123]

Whatever, I only talked wt u abt ID's matter, seem like u are false flagger and just try to make PDF members think that CN got strong support from ID.

End of discussion . I don't waste time wt a false flagger

My nationality is irrelevant in this discussion, and many other discussion.

You always do "ad hominem", dodging and distracting when get lost
Evidence that you are just troller

 

[Viva_Viet]

You don't need to assume. Trump already did that. The result? American customers paid 25% more for no additional value.

They can raise whatever % tariffs, and American customers will pay whatever % extra. This was already proven.

That time Trump also accused VN for money manipulation, so investors like Foxconn dared not move to VN to manufacture Iphone, airpods, airpad, so American had no choice but buying products from CN.

But more and more investment from CN auto parts suppliers, Foxconn are flowing into VN now and VN was removed from money manipulation list, so now American can buy same auto parts, airpods, airpad etc from VN wt 25% cheaper than from CN.

They will simply stop buying auto parts, airpods, airpad etc from CN to save cost

Biden is backed by Mr Obama, and we all know Obama love TPP deal

 

[Han Patriot]

Build infrastructure to generate GDP growth is even more unsafe mate .Lol

Well it's better to build infrastructure than print money for the casino right? Don't tell me the creaky leaky US infrastructure is in good shape mate. I just saw a documentary on the state of US infrastructure,go youtube and search for it, by CNA.

 

[dbc]

Well it's better to build infrastructure than print money for the casino right? Don't tell me the creaky leaky US infrastructure is in good shape mate. I just saw a documentary on the state of US infrastructure,go youtube and search for it, by CNA.

You seem to be more worried about US infrastructure than us Americans. I don’t have to watch a documentary to know about US infrastructure- I live in the US. I’ve driven coast to coast as recently as a few months ago. The returns from infrastructure spending diminish dramatically past a certain point. In the US we hit that point after investing a few hundred billion to fix and modernize where the returns justify the investment.

We helped build your infrastructure, your tallest buildings, your express ways, notable landmarks dig a little deep and you will see design input and project management by US and European firms. If infrastructure is needed we will build it our biggest challenge is not technical skill or money it’s finding enough legal workers To satisfy the temporary spurt in infrastructure spending.

 

[Han Patriot]

You seem to be more worried about US infrastructure than us Americans. I don’t have to watch a documentary to know about US infrastructure- I live in the US. I’ve driven coast to coast as recently as a few months ago. The returns from infrastructure spending diminish dramatically past a certain point. In the US we hit that point after investing a few hundred billion to fix and modernize where the returns justify the investment.

We helped build your infrastructure, your tallest buildings, your express ways, notable landmarks dig a little deep and you will see design input and project management by US and European firms. If infrastructure is needed we will build it our biggest challenge is not technical skill or money it’s finding enough legal workers To satisfy the temporary spurt in infrastructure spending.

You did help in the initial stages around the 80s and 90s, but come on the past 20 years? How do you define help, if we bought a caterpillar does it mean you helped us? Then by your logic we helped built your navy since Newport uses our drydock n zpmc machinery right? Lolol.

It's not just needing workers mate, you lost the direction and national will. You also lack money, years of spending trillions in reckless wars, exporting misery around the globe, once nice cities in mid East reduced to ruble. Fine you can justify printing money, lolol.

So you rather let your creaky infra collapse then trying to build new ones? If tht is US gamelan, then i think China will have a gr8 century ahead. You think infrastructure is just roads and buildings mate? It's the future grid like UHV, 5G Telco, HSR. You gonna ARGUE THAT US is automotive economy right?lol

 

[dbc]

You did help in the initial stages around the 80s and 90s, but come on the past 20 years?

Look at the latest earnings report of the top 10 engineering/ construction companies from the West. Each make between 30 to 70% of their global revenue from mainland China.

 

[Han Patriot]

Look at the latest earnings report of the top 10 engineering/ construction companies from the West. Each make between 30 to 70% of their global revenue from mainland China.

Can you show me? Just take 3 will do. I am in EPC engineering sector mate.

 

[dbc]

Can you show me? Just take 3 will do. I am in EPC engineering sector mate.

Here is three samples ..there are many more.

Shenzhen-Zhongshan Crossing
Hong Kong-Zhuhai-Macao Bridge
Shanghai tower

All three projects involved considerable intellectual input from Western firms. Now I can direct you to these firms websites like so ( Shanghai Tower | Projects | Gensler )

but you are in the EPC sector you can easily find the information yourself.

 

[Han Patriot]

Here is three samples ..there are many more.

Shenzhen-Zhongshan Crossing
Hong Kong-Zhuhai-Macao Bridge
Shanghai tower

All three projects involved considerable intellectual input from Western firms. Now I can direct you to these firms websites like so ( Shanghai Tower | Projects | Gensler )

but you are in the EPC sector you can easily find the information yourself.

Bro show me 30% revenue came from China. Come on...... Lolol

What were the intellectual input? Do you even know who designed those infrastructure? Lolol

 

[dbc]

Do you even know who designed those infrastructure? Lolol

Well its China - you guys probably credit Xi Jinping

As for intellectual input did you not see the links I posted earlier?

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

Bro show me 30% revenue came from China. Come on...... Lolol

What were the intellectual input? Do you even know who designed those infrastructure? Lolol

he doesn't like to use sources and when pressed, his sources tend to say the opposite of what he claims they say.

for example he said that "Chinese households are overleveraged":

Finally, the Chinese consumer is already over leveraged and will be of minor consequences once the effects of Chinese stimulus subsides. So yes trade imbalance with China will self correct in a few years.

Here is what the document he cited states after I repeatedly asked for the document:

"强化消费金融监管的背景下，居民债务增速已从前几年超过 20%放缓至当前的15%左右，居民杠杆率上升的速度亦有所放缓。考虑到我国居民杠杆率中有相当部分是具有自偿性的经营性债务，加上我国高储蓄率的“厚家底”、个人住房贷首付比例较高的“缓冲带”，以及居民债务高度分散、集中度较低的特点，我国居民部门债务风险尚在可控范围。"

Claimed document stated: "Debt and leverage increasing"

Document actually stated:

1. 居民杠杆率上升的速度亦有所放缓 - leverage rate is decreasing
2. 我国高储蓄率的“厚家底”、个人住房贷首付比例较高的“缓冲带” - China has high savings rate which serves as a buffer
3. 我国居民部门债务风险尚在可控范围 - private debt risk is under control

So when he says "30% revenue comes from China" just take it to mean the opposite. Probably 30% of Chinese revenue comes from them instead.

 

[dbc]

he doesn't like to use sources and when pressed, his sources tend to say the opposite of what he claims they say.

for example he said that "Chinese households are overleveraged":



Here is what the document he cited states after I repeatedly asked for the document:

"强化消费金融监管的背景下，居民债务增速已从前几年超过 20%放缓至当前的15%左右，居民杠杆率上升的速度亦有所放缓。考虑到我国居民杠杆率中有相当部分是具有自偿性的经营性债务，加上我国高储蓄率的“厚家底”、个人住房贷首付比例较高的“缓冲带”，以及居民债务高度分散、集中度较低的特点，我国居民部门债务风险尚在可控范围。"

Claimed document stated: "Debt and leverage increasing"

Document actually stated:

1. 居民杠杆率上升的速度亦有所放缓 - leverage rate is decreasing
2. 我国高储蓄率的“厚家底”、个人住房贷首付比例较高的“缓冲带” - China has high savings rate which serves as a buffer
3. 我国居民部门债务风险尚在可控范围 - private debt risk is under control

So when he says "30% revenue comes from China" just take it to mean the opposite. Probably 30% of Chinese revenue comes from them instead.

Why don't you take you arguments to the right thread so readers have the right context? Are you afraid you'd be exposed? .

On topic, here is another link.
Consulting for Sasan Ultra Mega Power Plant - Shanghai Electric Company
Conceptual design 2x660 MWel, Bituminous Coal, Anhui Pingshan Thermal Power Plant,
Design study 1,350 MWel, Bituminous Coal, WaiGaoQiao PS No. 9, Shanghai, China

Steinmüller Engineering - Consulting and Engineering Services (steinmueller.com)


AECOM’s first high-speed rail project completed in China

After almost five years of hard work, the Hefei-Fuzhou passenger dedicated line (PDL), which runs 850 kilometers (528 miles) between the two cities, was officially opened on June 28, 2015, after the completion of a three-month testing and commissioning by the Shanghai Railway Bureau. It is the first high-speed rail (HSR) project completed by AECOM in China, with the company expecting to complete two other HSR projects in 2016 and 2018.

China Shipping Headquarters

China Shipping Headquarters (aecom.com)

One Schengen Bay

One Shenzhen Bay (aecom.com)


I could go on ... and on..

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

Why don't you take you arguments to the right thread so readers have the right context? Are you afraid you'd be exposed? .

On topic, here is another link.
Consulting for Sasan Ultra Mega Power Plant - Shanghai Electric Company
Conceptual design 2x660 MWel, Bituminous Coal, Anhui Pingshan Thermal Power Plant,
Design study 1,350 MWel, Bituminous Coal, WaiGaoQiao PS No. 9, Shanghai, China

Steinmüller Engineering - Consulting and Engineering Services (steinmueller.com)


AECOM’s first high-speed rail project completed in China

After almost five years of hard work, the Hefei-Fuzhou passenger dedicated line (PDL), which runs 850 kilometers (528 miles) between the two cities, was officially opened on June 28, 2015, after the completion of a three-month testing and commissioning by the Shanghai Railway Bureau. It is the first high-speed rail (HSR) project completed by AECOM in China, with the company expecting to complete two other HSR projects in 2016 and 2018.

China Shipping Headquarters

China Shipping Headquarters (aecom.com)

One Schengen Bay

One Shenzhen Bay (aecom.com)


I could go on ... and on..

AECOM's role in your linked project:

"AECOM’s main responsibility was to provide program and construction management as well as to ensure the quality and safety of the work with the local supervision professionals."

Doesn't say what you think it says, yet again. They're there for program management, not engineering design.

They also noted: "This project has set up an important milestone in China’s national railway project as it was unprecedented to appoint a foreign consultant to provide professional construction supervision service."

This means that every HSR project prior to that one was 100% domestic IP, as stated by your own document.