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'This is not Saigon' US Secretary of State Anthony Blinken

The key points from President Biden's speech:
August 16, 2021

  • The US president said he stood by his decision to withdraw troops from Afghanistan, adding that he would not pass the war on to a fifth president
  • He said the 20-year mission was not meant to be about "nation building" or "creating a unified, central democracy", but was designed to prevent a terrorist attack on American soil
  • Biden conceded that the country had folded "quicker than anticipated"
  • He said American troops were trying to gain control of the airport and take over air traffic control
  • Biden also warned that if American troops are attacked by the Taliban, the US would "defend our people with devastating force"
 
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Blinken: 'This is not Saigon'

US Secretary of State Anthony Blinken says the US is moving its embassy compound to Kabul airport. :D :D

He told ABC News: "It's why we had forces on hand - to make sure we could do this in a safe and orderly fashion. The compound itself, folks are leaving there and going to the airport."

He added that the embassy has lists of people to get out of harm's way and is doubling down on efforts to do so.

He also denied any comparisons of the current situation to the 1975 fall of Saigon, in Vietnam, and insisted that the Afghan mission had been "successful"

"This is not Saigon," he said.
Hey, I am back after focusing on years on my University and College studies.
Its true, the Afghan Taliban are back in power. I made a few friends here.
But I doubt would have missed me. ;)

Taliban declares ‘war is over in Afghanistan’ as foreign powers exit Kabul
Swift arrival of the Taliban brings the Islamist militants close to taking over the country two decades after they were overthrown by a US-led invasion

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Kabul falls to the Taliban as thousands of Afghans try to flee – video report

Hannah Ellis-Petersen South Asia correspondent
Mon 16 Aug 2021 02.56 BST
Last modified on Mon 16 Aug 2021 21.05 BST


The Taliban has begun the process of forming a government in Afghanistan, after taking control of the capital Kabul and declaring that the war is over as Afghan forces surrendered and President Ashraf Ghani fled the country.
Despite two decades of US military presence in Afghanistan, and a war that cost over a trillion US dollars, Taliban insurgents arrived at the gates of Kabul on Sunday and took the capital, installing themselves in the presidential palace with little resistance.

“Today is a great day for the Afghan people and the mujahideen [Taliban],” said Taliban spokesman Mohammad Naeem on Monday. “They have witnessed the fruits of their efforts and their sacrifices for 20 years. Thanks to God, the war is over in the country.”
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The fall of Kabul to the Taliban on Sunday had followed weeks of fighting between insurgents and Afghan forces across Afghanistan after the swift pull out of US forces this summer. In recent weeks, key cities and regions across the country had fallen to the Taliban at unprecedented speed, and the capture of Kabul sealed their control over Afghanistan.
Naeem said the Taliban would now begin the process of forming a government and would work for a peaceful transition of power, both domestically and internationally, and would aim to maintain international diplomatic ties. “We ask all countries and entities to sit with us to settle any issues,” he said.
Many Afghan leaders in cities across the country formally handed over power to the Taliban and the group is expected to formally proclaim a new Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan in the coming days.
Afghan leaders, led by former president Hamid Karzai, said they had created a coordination council to meet with the Taliban and manage the transfer of the power.
Mullah Abdul Ghani Baradar, the Taliban’s deputy commander and chief negotiator who has been in peace negotiations with the Afghan government in Doha, Qatar since last year, said the Taliban wanted to build an “an open, inclusive Islamic government”.
Baradar was among those who expressed surprise at how quickly the country had fallen under Taliban control. “Now is the time when we will be tested on how we serve and secure our people, and ensure their good life and future to the best of our ability,” he said.
The decision on who will become president will be decided after a shura, consultation, between top Taliban leadership but Baradar, the group’s most public face who oversaw the signing of the agreement for the US troop withdrawal, has been touted as a likely candidate for a key role.
A family on the back of a flatbed van in traffic fleeing Kabul
The fall of Kabul: a 20-year mission collapses in a single day
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Taliban fighters had been ordered to show “humility” and not harm any civilians or property as they entered Kabul and took up posts across the capital previously occupied by police and Afghan security forces.

President Ghani flew out of the country on Sunday night, stating that he wanted to avoid any more bloodshed. “If I had stayed, countless countrymen would have been martyred and Kabul city would have been ruined,” he wrote in a post on Facebook. Hours later, Taliban commanders, laden with arms, were photographed standing behind Ghani’s desk in the presidential palace, where they had been escorted inside by a government official.


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Afghanistan: western leaders react to Taliban takeover of Kabul – video
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Despite the Taliban’s claims to want peace for Afghanistan, many Afghans fear the Taliban will return to the cruel and repressive practices that defined their previous period in power between 1996 and 2001. They enforced a strict interpretation of sharia, Islamic religious law, which meant women were banned from schools and workplaces and forced to cover up their face and body if they left the house, while archaic punishments such as stoning, whipping and hanging were applied to those who violated the draconian laws.

In some regions recently captured by the Taliban, women have already been prevented from attending schools and universities and banned from leaving the house without a male escort.

President Joe Biden is seen during a meeting with Vice President Kamala Harris, their security team and senior officials to obtain updates on the draw down of civilian personnel in Afghanistan

US president Joe Biden during a meeting with vice president Kamala Harris, their security team and senior officials to obtain updates on the draw down of civilian personnel in Afghanistan. Photograph: Twitter @WhiteHouse/Reuters
In Kabul, many began bracing themselves for life under strict Islamic rule. “My first concern was to grow my beard and how to grow it fast. I also checked with my wife if there were enough burqas for her and the girls,” Gul Mohammed Hakim, one the city’s ubiquitous naan bread makers told Reuters.

In deeply humiliating scenes for the Biden administration, smoke spiralled from the US embassy compound as staff hastily destroyed documents and personnel were airlifted to the airport by military helicopters, less than a month before the 20th anniversary of the 9/11 attacks on America. The American flag was also lowered and removed from the embassy compound.

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The US appeared stunned by the pace of the surrender and collapse of Afghan military forces in the face of the Taliban insurgency. Another 1,000 US troops will be sent directly to Kabul in coming days in an attempt to execute the safe withdrawal of US nationals and Afghan support staff.

It was also revealed that on Sunday, the head of the US Central Command, General Kenneth McKenzie, had met with Taliban representatives to urge them not to attack Kabul airport.

Families in street
An Afghan woman in Kabul: ‘Now I have to burn everything I achieved’
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The UN security council held an emergency meeting on Monday to discuss Afghanistan. Addressing the meeting, UN secretary general Antonio Guterres urged “all parties, especially the Taliban, to exercise utmost restraint to protect lives and to ensure that humanitarian needs are met.”


The war is over now. @waz Your views?
@LeGenD Your Views?

Probably you guys have forgotten me. I had to focus on University and College studies.

I guess you are guys are based in the UK?
 
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The Americans are now being allowed to withdraw at the mercy of the Taliban instead of withdrawing with co-ordination with the Afghan Government.
 
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WASHINGTON: The Taliban will be denied access to any Afghan reserves held in US accounts, a US administration official told AFP on Monday.

As US forces were evacuating Afghanistan's capital after the Taliban's swift takeover, the official said, "Any Central Bank assets the Afghan government has in the United States will not be made available to the Taliban."

The central bank's gross reserves totaled $9.4 billion at the end of April, according to the International Monetary Fund.

But most of those funds are held outside of Afghanistan, according to a person familiar with the issue.

It was not immediately clear what share is held in the United States.
 
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WASHINGTON: The Taliban will be denied access to any Afghan reserves held in US accounts, a US administration official told AFP on Monday.

As US forces were evacuating Afghanistan's capital after the Taliban's swift takeover, the official said, "Any Central Bank assets the Afghan government has in the United States will not be made available to the Taliban."

The central bank's gross reserves totaled $9.4 billion at the end of April, according to the International Monetary Fund.

But most of those funds are held outside of Afghanistan, according to a person familiar with the issue.

It was not immediately clear what share is held in the United States.

Thats robbery straight up and very unethical. I don’t care what side one is on this is a disgusting behavior. Hopefully other nations learn you can’t put money in US/EU banks as you basically forfeit if things head south.
 
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OPINION: History doesn't repeat itself, but it rhymes.

U.S.'s "Saigon moment" in Vietnam vs. "Kabul moment" in Afghanistan.
-- 20 years of war,
-- 2,448 U.S. soldiers killed
-- Countless Afghans killed
-- $2,000,000,000,000.00 spent (on wars in Afghanistan and Iraq),

For what?



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Ha they said it is not Saigon. It is worse than Saigon! :P
Thats robbery straight up and very unethical. I don’t care what side one is on this is a disgusting behavior. Hopefully other nations learn you can’t put money in US/EU banks as you basically forfeit if things head south.
But then it is stupid to trust USA with or for anything.
The list is huge:
1) Mohammad Mossadeq removal
2) WMD in Iraq war
3) Vietnam War
4) Pressler Amendment when Pakistan got nuclear weapons

Yet there are some foolish baboons who still want USA support.

I say let's trust those Chinese Communists. At least they are honest people who just want to build their country.
 
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