Think India has become more communal under Modi? The numbers will disappoint you

[indiatester]

Bogeyman my @$$. Ask yourself why won't they do that?

The moment there is a true polarization, the long term political windfall will be for BJP. No performance on economy- no problem, corruption- no problem. Once they become the leading Hindu protectors, no real political rivals will be there.

The only true polarization we have is from the other parties where they have specifically targeted individual communities rather than treat Indians as one. From MMS saying that first right of national resources belong to minorities to Lalus and Mayas pandering to their own groups.
What is scaring the pants out of these parties is the attempt to dismantle this "social engineering".

I believe infact that the contrary is happening. Existing polarization is being forced to break down. The country was polarized earlier which caused the country to split during our independence. This did not magically vanish all these years. Things have not been hunky dory between different communities. The other parties have been happy milking this cow to keep themselves in power with little to show in terms of development.
Now they see a different narrative and that is making them cry hoarse.

From shtting down Christmas to sudden noise around Beef Ban, these are the ground preparations for major policy modifications they want to make.

No shtting down Christmas has happened. Beef Ban you can't blame it on the central govt. Such idiotic things have existed earlier. I didn't see such noise when midday meals were taken off during Ramzan in Kerala. Nor when some priests were beaten for serving pork in their own internal feast.
This is just making a mountain out of a mole hill.

 

[SarthakGanguly]

The only intolerance I see is the overwhelming hate for Hindus, Sikhs, Jains and Buddhists - and their faiths.

 

[Guynextdoor2]

The only true polarization we have is from the other parties where they have specifically targeted individual communities rather than treat Indians as one. From MMS saying that first right of national resources belong to minorities to Lalus and Mayas pandering to their own groups.
What is scaring the pants out of these parties is the attempt to dismantle this "social engineering".

I believe infact that the contrary is happening. Existing polarization is being forced to break down. The country was polarized earlier which caused the country to split during our independence. This did not magically vanish all these years. Things have not been hunky dory between different communities. The other parties have been happy milking this cow to keep themselves in power with little to show in terms of development.
Now they see a different narrative and that is making them cry hoarse.



No shtting down Christmas has happened. Beef Ban you can't blame it on the central govt. Such idiotic things have existed earlier. I didn't see such noise when midday meals were taken off during Ramzan in Kerala. Nor when some priests were beaten for serving pork in their own internal feast.
This is just making a mountain out of a mole hill.

The biggest player of vote bank politics is BJP. Because the biggest vote bank is Hindus. Congress came to power because most hindus voted for them. BJP wants to make sure that Hindus vote for them always. This has, is and will be their plan...always.

 

[Sam.]

The only intolerance I see is the overwhelming hate for Hindus, Sikhs, Jains and Buddhists - and their faiths.

Congress will be bigger fail if they think if by pissing off majority will earn them their rightful birthright to govern pagan land.

 

[indiatester]

The biggest player of vote bank politics is BJP. Because the biggest vote bank is Hindus. Congress came to power because most hindus voted for them. BJP wants to make sure that Hindus vote for them always. This has, is and will be their plan...always.

Thats your view. My view is that other parties are bigger players of vote bank politics.
We need people like you(not the ones we see on TV) to make sure that idiots in BJP don't go about polarizing India.
We need a lot more of people like me to ensure that the culture of "social engineering" and "vote bank politics" are removed from the other parties viz., INC, CPI, CPM, MIM, IUML, BSP, SP, RJD, JDU, JDS etc.

 

[Guynextdoor2]

Thats your view. My view is that other parties are bigger players of vote bank politics.
We need people like you(not the ones we see on TV) to make sure that idiots in BJP don't go about polarizing India.
We need a lot more of people like me to ensure that the culture of "social engineering" and "vote bank politics" are removed from the other parties viz., INC, CPI, CPM, MIM, IUML, BSP, SP, RJD, JDU, JDS etc.

yes, we need both sides so that both sides are in control. All that I'm objecting to is the claim that a lot of BJP suppporters make that congress plays 'vote bank politics'. Congress and other parties plays for minority vote banks and BJP plays for majority vote bank. both are equally detrimental to 'one India' since both leave out sizeable populations.

 

[mooppan]

They are free to celebrate it as a state holiday. So why should their sentiment be hurt ?

Ok,then what about Hindu holidays(including national ones like diwali) in those states??..same logic??

 

[scorpionx]

In any case. I just asked for opinions. Not character certificates. But it's okay.

Opinion already given in post# 10 which you skipped (like an absent minded kid) and chose to jump on the next one which is not a character certificate but an honest observation

 

[Niyogi]

Ok,then what about Hindu holidays(including national ones like diwali) in those states??..same logic??

Its not like hindu holidays are celebrated in Kashmir

 

[Sky lord]

Nope. The question is not 'Is India Communal' but that there is a systematic and well thought out plan to create an irreversible rupture in the society to give the BJP a permanent political advantage, The media attention is welcome and necessary.

In a country where every other airport, every national scheme is named after the members of one family, where every newspaper owes favors received to the same family and it's coterie, where every major post holder owes to the patronage and where generations of politicians owe their jobs to the same family, the question that should be asked is whether there is a systematic and well thought out plan to create an irreversible rupture in society to overturn the people verdict and retake permanent political advantage by a group of priveleged undeserving elitists who suddenly find themselves to have lost or diluted some of the unfair advantages they have been enjoying over the past half century.

 

[Guynextdoor2]

In a country where every other airport, every national scheme is named after the members of one family, where every newspaper owes favors received to the same family and it's coterie, where every major post holder owes to the patronage and where generations of politicians owe their jobs to the same family, the question that should be asked is whether there is a systematic and well thought out plan to create an irreversible rupture in society to overturn the people verdict and retake permanent political advantage by a group of priveleged undeserving elitists who suddenly find themselves to have lost or diluted some of the unfair advantages they have been enjoying over the past half century.

Of course, the problem is that the airport bridge etc. are named after members of one family...and not of Sangh Parivar. That will solve everything. Bhakt logic.

 

[indiatester]

yes, we need both sides so that both sides are in control. All that I'm objecting to is the claim that a lot of BJP suppporters make that congress plays 'vote bank politics'. Congress and other parties plays for minority vote banks and BJP plays for majority vote bank. both are equally detrimental to 'one India' since both leave out sizeable populations.

How can you object that Congress has played vote bank politics? They have always thrived on handing out doles to individual sections of society rather than address the core issues of everyone.
That is one of the reasons why we are still stuck in "Hindu growth rate".
BJP has nicely changed their tact to "sab ka sath, sab ka vikas" while we have the same leader saying "Hum paanch, humare pachees" a while back. But I tend to discount this as a complaint of an aggrieved person.
Congress should have never created an atmosphere where the majority would feel neglected.

 

[SarthakGanguly]

Opinion already given in post# 10 which you skipped (like an absent minded kid) and chose to jump on the next one which is not a character certificate but an honest observation

Okay.

In any case, I did not skip. Just that my thirst for your opinion was quenched and there was nothing to ask any further.

 

[Guynextdoor2]

How can you object that Congress has played vote bank politics? They have always thrived on handing out doles to individual sections of society rather than address the core issues of everyone.
That is one of the reasons why we are still stuck in "Hindu growth rate".
BJP has nicely changed their tact to "sab ka sath, sab ka vikas" while we have the same leader saying "Hum paanch, humare pachees" a while back. But I tend to discount this as a complaint of an aggrieved person.
Congress should have never created an atmosphere where the majority would feel neglected.

Then let me ask you this:
- Modi cut budgets everywhere including eduction but increased outay for MNREGA
- Freebies distributed in MP, UP and Central States to the tune of 5000 crores
- SHields corrupt politicans- Vansundhara Raje has taken over an entire government palace and converted to a hotel, payouts for services rendered to Lalit Modi are about 11 Crore
Majority never felt 'neglected' . To most Indians Haj Subsidy is a non issue. Come to think of it even Modi has kept that going.

Now you have a party that's as corrupt, as populist and as dishonest and they're better coz they said some Tagline?

 

[SarthakGanguly]

Then let me ask you this:
- Modi cut budgets everywhere including eduction but increased outay for MNREGA
- Freebies distributed in MP, UP and Central States to the tune of 5000 crores
- SHields corrupt politicans- Vansundhara Raje has taken over an entire government palace and converted to a hotel, payouts for services rendered to Lalit Modi are about 11 Crore
Majority never felt 'neglected' . To most Indians Haj Subsidy is a non issue. Come to think of it even Modi has kept that going.

Now you have a party that's as corrupt, as populist and as dishonest and they're better coz they said some Tagline?

Hindus and pro Hindus like this Government. This should sum up the support base of BJP.