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They feared I would appoint Lt Gen Faiz Hameed as army chief: Imran Khan

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Why can’t these generals mind their own business?

Not like Imran Khan was letting NAB investigate their income.
Maybe he was not investigating them today but who know of tomorrow, as we often hear Army is in for a long game, so they know a person like IK will hurt them in long run, same goes for the judiciary too, they are all in this to protect their goals and kin.
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Who let this establishment become so powerful that they are the only one running the country ? Maritans or People of Pakistan ? People in the past came out to street dancing, distributing sweets when Nawaz (how much corrupt he can be, he can be punished if reforms are made) was ousted by Musharraf. Why Fauj is allowed to have construction business or cement business etc etc ? IK had four years to make reforms but he failed to be honest. He should not have let go NS and SS out of the country. He did not do anything against Zardari. As an outsider following Pakistan politics either he should mend his way as per establishment or he will never come to power.
Product of lop sided demography.

Why can’t these generals mind their own business?

Not like Imran Khan was letting NAB investigate their income.

Absolutely convinced Imran Khan and Faiz are history.
Fully agree, especially since IK is not a revolutionary and will never take the 800 pound gorilla AKA MilEstablished head on.
 
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Who let this establishment become so powerful that they are the only one running the country ? Maritans or People of Pakistan ? People in the past came out to street dancing, distributing sweets when Nawaz (how much corrupt he can be, he can be punished if reforms are made) was ousted by Musharraf. Why Fauj is allowed to have construction business or cement business etc etc ? IK had four years to make reforms but he failed to be honest. He should not have let go NS and SS out of the country. He did not do anything against Zardari. As an outsider following Pakistan politics either he should mend his way as per establishment or he will never come to power.
Imran has also been a beneficiary of the Fauj. So he cannot possibly supersede the interests of the establishment. If he can regain the PM seat without any help from establishment next year, then he will be at liberty to do as he pleases.
 
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Imran has also been a beneficiary of the Fauj. So he cannot possibly supersede the interests of the establishment. If he can regain the PM seat without any help from establishment next year, then he will be at liberty to do as he pleases.

Establishment will make sure that he won't come back with a simple majority. Trust me on this, Pakistan will have to go through bloody revolution so that kaanpein taang jaye of establishment.PDM will run away to their country of origin if people will come on street and does not listen to establishment. Continuous protest of a week will bring establishment to its knee as they cannot keep killing their people. International pressure/voice of overseas Pakistanis will force them to surrender.
 
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This is a comedy of errors...


Braindead Baghlol Bajwa did the mistake of his life, he thought people of Pakistan is living in the era of 90's and 80's just as Army(are me) old men, but didn't realized how much change has ushered in the hearts and minds of the people of Pakistan as of now.

These Army old deranged Generals, power corrupts, arrogant and ignorant was frozen in time and living under a rock in this quick information dissemination world.

We all love Pak Fauj jawans, rank and file, and soldiers, there are just a few crooks at the helm which hopefully will be cleansed.
 
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Establishment will make sure that he won't come back with a simple majority. Trust me on this, Pakistan will have to go through bloody revolution so that kaanpein taang jaye of establishment.PDM will run away to their country of origin if people will come on street and does not listen to establishment. Continuous protest of a week will bring establishment to its knee as they cannot keep killing their people. International pressure/voice of overseas Pakistanis will force them to surrender.
I have the feeling that Pakistani establishment has reformed itself to not involve in domestic electoral politics. This has been a progressive change from the end of Musharraf era. Subsequent Army chiefs have not attempted a direct coup and have limited themselves to use soft controls on the system. Now that may also be over. Imran Khan could have well been the last beneficiary of establishment's soft control in 2018. PTI is just upset that they did not get the same level of support now.

We'll see in 2023 if my appraisal of the situation is correct. :pop:
 
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I have the feeling that Pakistani establishment has reformed itself to not involve in domestic electoral politics.
Imported PM Showbaz Sharif is using ISI as the official vetting agency for civilian govt officers. This has never happened before. What a great reform, Indian Patwari
 
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I have the feeling that Pakistani establishment has reformed itself to not involve in domestic electoral politics. This has been a progressive change from the end of Musharraf era. Subsequent Army chiefs have not attempted a direct coup and have limited themselves to use soft controls on the system. Now that may also be over. Imran Khan could have well been the last beneficiary of establishment's soft control in 2018. PTI is just upset that they did not get the same level of support now.

We'll see in 2023 if my appraisal of the situation is correct. :pop:

Why to come out in open when you can pull the strings from behind ? May be (higher probability is there) that IK was given a chance by establishment but he tried to overpower them and as a result of it he was thrown out. It is on record that Nawaz Shareef was against No confidence motion as election was bound to happen in 2023 and seeing the inflation people is not going to vote for PTI until he was convinced by establishment that PTI won't make a come back in 2023.
 
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I don’t care if you like Khan or not but if you can’t stand with him on his message something is very wrong with you. What’s wrong in independent institutions and law and order in the country. What’s the worst he can do? Maybe he is all talk, what’s there to lose?

To refuse to see right and wrong and not stand up for truth shows how morally corrupt people have become.

I am sorry but chain of command will have to be broken. You have to stand for truth and take action. We are bunch of confuse individuals, we can’t do anything right. We don’t follow our religion, we don’t love our country nor do we love ourself.

if we did anyone of those things, we would fight for what’s right . A religious individual would fight against corruption because that’s what Islam tells us. A nationalist would stand for his country and a self respecting individual would stand for himself.

Individual in arm forces need to step up, they have to break chain of command and tell Bajwa and his cronies to F off. Nothing worth fighting for comes easy, everyone has to do their part.
 
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Khan is going full ablaze against Bajra run establishment. Khan still working to resolve it within the system which is controlled by bajra led establishment (he, DG ISI, DG MI, DGMO, CJ, Lahore sharif high Court), and uncle Sam against him.
Within system won't work. He has to go for a massive demo in the red zone Islamabad.
 
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