They are Terrorists and not Taliban

[Desert Fox]

YOu are wrong my friend. Pakistan has got alot of problems itself and you cant put your ills of your society on Afghans. As if there werent any afghan in pakistan, there wouldnt have been any rape and crimes? is that what you say? There might have been some criminals among the refugees, but that is natural for every society. Good and bad people can be found everywhere.

I agree, we can't blame Afghans for every crime! Mukhtar Mai that was gang raped in Punjab wasn't raped by any Afghan or indian, but Pakistanis! You see, we can't blame everyone for ALL of our problems! Its sad that such dirty and sick crimes take place in our country.

 

[MarkTheTruth]

Mr.Ahmad,

As I said in my previous message to you that I wa in Pakistan in 1980`s. I remember that time very well. That was former president of Pakistan Gen. Zi-Ul-Haq period.

We got millions of Afghan refugee in pakistan that time.
After athat, we got so many problems in Pakistan just because of having millions of Afghan refujee.

I myself saw big trucks that comes from Afghanistan and saw too many Afghan people.

I also remember that time Pakistan`s top news paprer like

Daily JAND & Nawa-i-Waqt got so so many stories about Afghan refugies Looting, Killing, Rape, Kidnaping Childrens etc . . . . All that comes from Afghan Refujee.

Pakistan was a poor country that time (yes, still poor pr today as well) But we were forced to accept so many refugees.

Who gave us following Cultures:

Klashankoof & Heroin, , , , ,?

Of Course it was Afghan who gave us this culture.

As being a poor country Pakistan helped our Afghan brothers and sisters. But what we got in reply is very sad Mr.Ahmad.

Now DO NOT teach me about TALIBAN history. Try to make fool someone else, but not Pakistanis!!!

All this is BS. kalashnkof culture, drug culture due to refuggees?? A hell not. This statements seems to me like there would be no drug cultures and other cultures in Pakistan, should the refugees never came to Pakistan. Afghan refugees did not went to USSR, China, India, USA, where the hell this drugs and arms culture came in these countries??? Don't try to make people fool, yea? YOU CAN'T FEED THE SEED OF HATE WITH YOUR STUPIDITY.

The rest of the contents as stupid as you are.

Try to make fool someone else but not Pakistanis and Afghanis

 

[MarkTheTruth]

The Taliban are terrorists... TTP regardless of the foreign powers behind them are also terrorists. We will kill them all!

Your statement clearly indicates that you either not able to make any distinction between the terrorists and a talib or you do not want to come on that point. Whatever the case is, the word TALIB is respectable name just like Islam, that is why these terrorists, sponsered by uncle same and its pushed up babies, india israel, are using this name... to gain popularity and sympathy of common and innocent tribals.

Go kill the terrorists, i give you the license to kill as much terrorists as you like, but never shoot a TALIB as they are your own brothers, sisters, sons and fathers. Taliban, a group of students/Talib, are respectable persons, while the terrorists, sponsered by enemy countries are REAL CRIMINALS.

 

[Rank]

Jab tak America Pakistan may bheta hey hamara haal yehi rahayga! aur jab tak hamaray sar pe bikay howay hukmaraan bhetay hain kise bhi dept kay hoon!

These are not TALIBANS who are doing such terrorist activites inside Pakistan.

International agencines + from Afghanistan under US umbrella INDIA and ISREAL including US itself provide funds to these terrorist. Talibans are different they are freedom fighters and fight against invaders thats it. Because of heavy media penetration in West and East US and India doing BS otherwise technically everyone knows who is behind and what is this BS "WOT"

 

[Slides]

Jab tak America Pakistan may bheta hey hamara haal yehi rahayga! aur jab tak hamaray sar pe bikay howay hukmaraan bhetay hain kise bhi dept kay hoon!

These are not TALIBANS who are doing such terrorist activites inside Pakistan.

International agencines + from Afghanistan under US umbrella INDIA and ISREAL including US itself provide funds to these terrorist. Talibans are different they are freedom fighters and fight against invaders thats it. Because of heavy media penetration in West and East US and India doing BS otherwise technically everyone knows who is behind and what is this BS "WOT"

Fakir M, Hakeemullah Mehsud, Mullah Fazulullah, Azam Tariq, Ilywas Kashmiri plus a host of other terrorists are homegrown. You're living in denial if you believe that if America leaves or stays, the murderers who justify each and everyone one of their barbaric actions will suddenly become good and wholesome people and start loving Pakistan.

Please get out of fantasy land and just take a look at not so distant history. When the Russians left, did the fighting in Afghanistan stop?

 

[Slides]

Your statement clearly indicates that you either not able to make any distinction between the terrorists and a talib or you do not want to come on that point. Whatever the case is, the word TALIB is respectable name just like Islam, that is why these terrorists, sponsered by uncle same and its pushed up babies, india israel, are using this name... to gain popularity and sympathy of common and innocent tribals.

Go kill the terrorists, i give you the license to kill as much terrorists as you like, but never shoot a TALIB as they are your own brothers, sisters, sons and fathers. Taliban, a group of students/Talib, are respectable persons, while the terrorists, sponsered by enemy countries are REAL CRIMINALS.

They are not students anymore. They don't study anything. They only kill kill kill, in both Afghanistan and Pakistan. Please learn to differentiate between a term and the actual group behind all this.

 

[Ahmad]

I agree, we can't blame Afghans for every crime! Mukhtar Mai that was gang raped in Punjab wasn't raped by any Afghan or indian, but Pakistanis! You see, we can't blame everyone for ALL of our problems! Its sad that such dirty and sick crimes take place in our country.

Thanks for understanding the situation. Criminals are criminals, no matter who they are, they are everywhere and in every society. I just hope our country find peace so that we go back there, it is not easy to live outside your home.

 

[Ahmad]

Mr.Ahmad,

As I said in my previous message to you that I wa in Pakistan in 1980`s. I remember that time very well. That was former president of Pakistan Gen. Zi-Ul-Haq period.

We got millions of Afghan refugee in pakistan that time.
After athat, we got so many problems in Pakistan just because of having millions of Afghan refujee.

I myself saw big trucks that comes from Afghanistan and saw too many Afghan people.

I also remember that time Pakistan`s top news paprer like

Daily JAND & Nawa-i-Waqt got so so many stories about Afghan refugies Looting, Killing, Rape, Kidnaping Childrens etc . . . . All that comes from Afghan Refujee.

Pakistan was a poor country that time (yes, still poor pr today as well) But we were forced to accept so many refugees.

Who gave us following Cultures:

Klashankoof & Heroin, , , , ,?

Of Course it was Afghan who gave us this culture.

As being a poor country Pakistan helped our Afghan brothers and sisters. But what we got in reply is very sad Mr.Ahmad.

Now DO NOT teach me about TALIBAN history. Try to make fool someone else, but not Pakistanis!!!

Mr. HAWK73, You put everything in one sentence: Whatever happens/happend in pakistan is because of the refugees. It is our sad situation that we are becoming refugees in many countries, trust me we dont want to live in Pakistan if we are not forced to because of insecurity and war in afghanistan. We honestly are tired of becoming the subject of taunting and finger pointing, it really really hurts us, you havent experienced it, but we do experience it everyday, even on the internet. We have got a saying in farsi that says: Zakhme Zoban is alot worse than the Zakhme Shamsher(Sword), we hear the Zakhme Zoban everyday and it is badly hurtful.

Now refer to the other parts of your post:

And dont you think the media was picking on refugees to divert attention from the failings of gov that time? I dont say there werent any crminals among the refugees, but how come the handful of crminals(compare the size of refugees with the population of paksitan) changed the whole culture of paksitan and terrorized pakistan? it doesnt add up. We never had the culture of Heroin and Klashinkov before war started in Afghanistan, when we started coming to pakistan we were introduced to Klashinkov culture by proxy powers(regional and global powers) as well as drug cultivation culture which was common in tribal areas. We never had culture of ordinary guns let alone the culture of klashinkov, we didnt know what klashinkov was, it was only with the afghan army and public werent used to guns, on the contrary culture of gun was common in tribal areas(they consider it as their pride) of pakistan while we didnt have it in afghanistan. Afghan refugees and Afghan resistence was like a package to pakistan, it concluded everything, you couldnt just pick the good and reject the bad. If there was no resistance then the russians would have had every chance to make pakistan its next target. Pakistan had to accept all the good and bads to defend paksitan from the might of the soviets.

 

[HAWK73]

Mr. HAWK73, You put everything in one sentence: Whatever happens/happend in pakistan is because of the refugees. It is our sad situation that we are becoming refugees in many countries, trust me we dont want to live in Pakistan if we are not forced to because of insecurity and war in afghanistan. We honestly are tired of becoming the subject of taunting and finger pointing, it really really hurts us, you havent experienced it, but we do experience it everyday, even on the internet. We have got a saying in farsi that says: Zakhme Zoban is alot worse than the Zakhme Shamsher(Sword), we hear the Zakhme Zoban everyday and it is badly hurtful.

Now refer to the other parts of your post:

And dont you think the media was picking on refugees to divert attention from the failings of gov that time? I dont say there werent any crminals among the refugees, but how come the handful of crminals(compare the size of refugees with the population of paksitan) changed the whole culture of paksitan and terrorized pakistan? it doesnt add up. We never had the culture of Heroin and Klashinkov before war started in Afghanistan, when we started coming to pakistan we were introduced to Klashinkov culture by proxy powers(regional and global powers) as well as drug cultivation culture which was common in tribal areas. We never had culture of ordinary guns let alone the culture of klashinkov, we didnt know what klashinkov was, it was only with the afghan army and public werent used to guns, on the contrary culture of gun was common in tribal areas(they consider it as their pride) of pakistan while we didnt have it in afghanistan. Afghan refugees and Afghan resistence was like a package to pakistan, it concluded everything, you couldnt just pick the good and reject the bad. If there was no resistance then the russians would have had every chance to make pakistan its next target. Pakistan had to accept all the good and bads to defend paksitan from the might of the soviets.

As I said before that what ever I say is not what comes from very own News Paper or My Publish Office.

I am a Pakistani, and I remember a lot what happened in 1980`s.
What I said to you is 110% correct.

Well, Afghanistan that time didn`t had so much power to STOP USSR to further South Asia. It was US & Pak joint effort man.

Upgrade your poor knowledge or keep quite if you can!

 

[HAWK73]

All this is BS. kalashnkof culture, drug culture due to refuggees?? A hell not. This statements seems to me like there would be no drug cultures and other cultures in Pakistan, should the refugees never came to Pakistan. Afghan refugees did not went to USSR, China, India, USA, where the hell this drugs and arms culture came in these countries??? Don't try to make people fool, yea? YOU CAN'T FEED THE SEED OF HATE WITH YOUR STUPIDITY.

The rest of the contents as stupid as you are.

Try to make fool someone else but not Pakistanis and Afghanis

Cool Down.

You fool against you I can only say 1 thing:

Ghar Ke Bheddi Lanka Dhaè

Now shut your mouth & keep quite!



EDIT: I understand your sympathy to this person "Ahmad"who even don`t know so much about what happened in 1980`s

 

[HAWK73]

Mr.Ahmad,

Don`t worry you got enough support here as well.
But we got a lot poor culture from Afghanistan as well.

To HELL those don`t believe on that!

 

[Ahmad]

Mr.Ahmad,

Don`t worry you got enough support here as well.
But we got a lot poor culture from Afghanistan as well.

To HELL those don`t believe on that!

You act like a child. i cant understand where to start and where to stop with you. You blame the whole nation of afghanistan and their refugees as your all problmes, do you think it is very logical? and as per our culture, we are pooor and war torn, but at the same time we have rich culture as well(despite the fact that there are some negative sides in our culture too, just like every other people)

 

[Desert Fox]

You act like a child. i cant understand where to start and where to stop with you. You blame the whole nation of afghanistan and their refugees as your all problmes, do you think it is very logical? and as per our culture, we are pooor and war torn, but at the same time we have rich culture as well(despite the fact that there are some negative sides in our culture too, just like every other people)

Bro, just ignore that troll HAWK, he can't seem to have a logical debate!

We all know the truth and what he says can't effect the truth! Not all Afghans are criminals! There is good and bad in every country, race, ethnicity.....

 

[Ahmad]

Bro, just ignore that troll HAWK, he can't seem to have a logical debate!

We all know the truth and what he says can't effect the truth! Not all Afghans are criminals! There is good and bad in every country, race, ethnicity.....

Thanks brother. And i never have said that there werent any criminals among afghan refugees. I know some refugees who are criminals myself. But just pray that peace and calm comes to Afghanistan, honestly we are very tired. Tired of everything, homelessness, finger pointing, taunting, dying, behing destroyed, hunger, poverty, and you name it.

 

[MarkTheTruth]

@ slides
Fakir M, Hakeemullah Mehsud, Mullah Fazulullah, Azam Tariq, Ilywas Kashmiri plus a host of other terrorists are homegrown. You're living in denial if you believe that if America leaves or stays, the murderers who justify each and everyone one of their barbaric actions will suddenly become good and wholesome people and start loving Pakistan.

Please get out of fantasy land and just take a look at not so distant history. When the Russians left, did the fighting in Afghanistan stop?

fakik hakeem, mehsud, fazal of swat.. yes they all are home grown, who denied it either in article or my someone else. What we are talking about is that JUST LIKE POLITICIANS AND ALL OTHER INTEREST LOVERS, these so called taliban are infact not taliban but are terrorists. A mehsud never returned to Afghanistan after his release from use jail. Why is that? Why he killed only Pakistani and not ever a single invaded in AFghanistan? WE arenot denying the fact, but you are wrongly interpreting what others are saying.

sure after ussr, Afghanistan fell in civil war. this civil war come to END when Taliban, the real taliban, took over Kabul. They banned drugs, eliminated check points in each and every corner of roads to loot common people, brought peace in streets. The problem they created inside Afghanistan was that they were so much strict. But time would have learned them few lessons, should they ever allowed to practice freely.

They are not students anymore. They don't study anything. They only kill kill kill, in both Afghanistan and Pakistan. Please learn to differentiate between a term and the actual group behind all this.

Those, who are not student, kill kill kill both in Afghanistan and Pakistan are only and only Terrorists and not Taliban. This is what the purpose of writing this article. What I want to say is that we must and we always call these bast****, a Terrorists and not Taliban. Taliban are students but terrorists are terrorists, they have no faith, no culture, no religions, no ethics etc etc. Even if they are sitting in RAW's, CIA's offices, hold a religious identity card, they can't be considered as human biengs, considering them good is out of question.

The killers, the murderers and the brain washers of common, innocent, poor tribals or elseone in Pakistan or elsewhere for destruction, are terrorists and only terrorists.