Theresa May: Skripals "were poisoned with a military grade nerve agent developed by Russia"

[zzzz]

The UK, US, France and Germany issue a joint statement condemning Russia as Theresa May visits Salisbury poisoning site.

Skynews.com

There is no condemnation of Russia in that statement. Laughing at desperate UK "Baghdad Bob" propaganda

 

[Wolfhunter]

There is no condemnation of Russia in that statement. Laughing at desperate UK "Baghdad Bob" propaganda

Perhaps you have trouble reading English:

The leaders of France, Germany, the US and UK have issued a statement on the nerve agent attack in the UK, saying there is "no plausible alternative explanation" than Russian culpability.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-43415271

 

[Taimoor Khan]

Some think that Russia is the new found friend of Pakistan, it really isn't, although currently some interests align. The UK gives aid, was the country which secured favoured trading status for Pakistan in the EU, which including low and no tariffs on goods, it's military is twined via army regiments and Air Force squadrons and so on.
But anyway, I'm off-topic.

That's quite myopic view of geopolitics. There is always other side of the coin. Ofcourse there is a tiny matter of hosting perhaps one the biggest terrorist who took many more Pakistani lives then OBL could have ever imagined, right in the heart of posh London suburb. And then the baluch miscreant popping up recently as well. And perhaps a small matter of co-sponsoring American efforts in FATF against Pakistan.

Also, at a time when UK needs to build good relations with powers outside EU, with looming BREXIT and negotiations with EU which are not going according to plan, it doesn't seem like a wise strategy to host wanted individuals of other nations.

I am seeing a lot of resemblance in UK government response to that of India when anything bad happen, from word go point fingers at Pakistan. There is no debate on why this individual was not killed when he was languishing in Russian jail, or as to what happened to the same chemical agent which was scoped up by America from Uzbekistan after the collapse of Soviet Union. And of course there is history of Iraqi WMDs.

Non of above concern Pak-Russia relationship.

 

[zzzz]

Perhaps you have trouble reading English:

The leaders of France, Germany, the US and UK have issued a statement on the nerve agent attack in the UK, saying there is "no plausible alternative explanation" than Russian culpability.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-43415271

Perhaps you and Skynews have such trouble? Asking explanations and condemnation are two different things.

 

[vostok]

I would not be surprised if, as a result of this amazing story (in which there is not a hint of a framing), Britain will demand a boycott of the World Cup 2018.

 

[Wolfhunter]

I would not be surprised if, as a result of this amazing story (in which there is not a hint of a framing), Britain will demand a boycott of the World Cup 2018.

 

[Solomon2]

I would not be surprised if, as a result of this amazing story (in which there is not a hint of a framing), Britain will demand a boycott of the World Cup 2018.

Oh, it's so much worse than that:
Haley: UN Security Council 'Will Not Survive' if Russia Not Held Accountable for UK Poison Attack

You know what that means, right? No UNSC means the elimination of Russia's most powerful tool of diplomatic leverage, its power to veto condemnations of its satellites and allies. There are other tools, of course, but Russia is far weaker that the West is when it comes to exercising them.

Trump is a guy who regularly cuts his losses by throwing out incompetents, bypassing red tape, and disrupting existing bureaucratic structures. His willingness to exceed "normal" limits gives him tremendous flexibility. So he could really do this.

 

[vostok]

Oh, it's so much worse than that:
Haley: UN Security Council 'Will Not Survive' if Russia Not Held Accountable for UK Poison Attack

You know what that means, right? No UNSC means the elimination of Russia's most powerful tool of diplomatic leverage, its power to veto condemnations of its satellites and allies. There are other tools, of course, but Russia is far weaker that the West is when it comes to exercising them.

Trump is a guy who regularly cuts his losses by throwing out incompetents, bypassing red tape, and disrupting existing bureaucratic structures. His willingness to exceed "normal" limits gives him tremendous flexibility. So he could really do this.

Neither the United States nor Britain has rights to exclude anyone from the Security Council. This is the most ridiculous threat of all. You could also promise to shit on the Red Square in midnight.

 

[Solomon2]

Neither the United States nor Britain has rights to exclude anyone from the Security Council. This is the most ridiculous threat of all.

They can remove themselves. And if they convince six other members to remove themselves there won't be the quorum necessary for affirmative votes.

You could also promise to shit on the Red Square in midnight.

That's all that Russia will be left to do, I suppose....

 

[mandrom]

Oh, it's so much worse than that:
Haley: UN Security Council 'Will Not Survive' if Russia Not Held Accountable for UK Poison Attack

You know what that means, right? No UNSC means the elimination of Russia's most powerful tool of diplomatic leverage, its power to veto condemnations of its satellites and allies. There are other tools, of course, but Russia is far weaker that the West is when it comes to exercising them.

Trump is a guy who regularly cuts his losses by throwing out incompetents, bypassing red tape, and disrupting existing bureaucratic structures. His willingness to exceed "normal" limits gives him tremendous flexibility. So he could really do this.

And then West asks why dedollarization ,why cryptocurrency are booming and why alternative methods of payment are developing. Such aggressive behavior on account of West(hybrid war,protecting islamic terrorist,financing coups etc) .

 

[vostok]

They can remove themselves.

It is their right. In that case nations of the world will look for alternative solution of UNSC organization.

 

[Solomon2]

It is their right. In that case nations of the world will look for alternative solution of UNSC organization.

Which is exactly what Haley said, isn't it?

Note that this can't be done until the two-year term of non-permanent UNSC members expire. Until then, the UNSC would be effectively dormant.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

They can remove themselves. And if they convince six other members to remove themselves there won't be the quorum necessary for affirmative votes.

Trump has been threatening to remove the USA from the UNSC for a long time now (especially after the botched Jerusalem vote), I hope and believe that he will actually do it.

It is their right. In that case nations of the world will look for alternative solution of UNSC organization.

We can stay in the UNSC after the USA and Britain leave. Then it will be China, Russia and France as permanent veto members and still the rest of the world will remain as regular UN members.

Which countries will leave the UN and join another organization along with the US? If the last Jerusalem vote was anything to go by, only a few small island nations.

 

[vostok]

Which is exactly what Haley said, isn't it?

Note that this can't be done until the two-year term of non-permanent UNSC members expire. Until then, the UNSC would be effectively dormant.

Well, ok. If US and UK want to live in the world without functioning UNSC - let it be. I, personally, do not mind.

Then it will be China, Russia and France...

France is under huge question. It is tough decision. Only for independent countries.

 

[Solomon2]

Well, ok. If US and UK want to live in the world without functioning UNSC - let it be. I, personally, do not mind.

Ah, but your opinion doesn't count for much, does it? Much more important are the opinions of Putin's key supporters.

You know how Kremlin politics works, I guess: one faction pushes a leader to the top, and then he pulls his supporters up after him. He may last as long as supporters consider their leader an asset and not a liability. With diplomatic leverage gone, foreign accounts and travel restricted, and their financial empires threatened, the temptation to solve all problems by giving Putin a Yeltsin Boot out may become overwhelming.

Putin has a worried look nowadays. It's not about the "election", of course...