So how does all this nonsense from you 'proved' that whatever the Serbs did worked against 'stealth'?
Another 12yr old trying to act like an adult...
it brought down a stealth............ back than F117 was pride of USAF
Stealth is over hyped it might be useful against a rag tag army but not a professional one
OTH radars,space based assets, air defence assets....... Even only the preparations of an air attack would be observed at 5000-7000 km of distance or directly from space, since minute one
Aircraft, in a full scale conflict between world level powers would be probably the assets less likely to get any chance to come into play (probably even if the conflict would be limited to conventional means), the reason is that airfields are,by far, the most easy fixed targets among any others military target ;moreover show an horrible "combination" of the worse elements codifying for great susceptibility to destruction :
1) a very high density of very soft, frail vehicles (aircraft)
2) a strong concentration of an immense amount very flammable fuel
3) high spatial concentration of bombs and missiles .
Practically any airfields ,except those placed in multi-layered, dense, and very extensive IADs (capable to neutralize or divert an enormous amount of cruise and ballistic missiles) would be reduced to a sprawl of smoking craters from hundreds or even thousands of Km of distances in a matter of minutes even before the logistical preparations for an air attack would be carried on.....
If we consider a thermonuclear scenario, obviously the role of aircraft such as F-22 or PAKFA become even more insignificant (all the conflict would be resolved ,in no more than 20-30 minutes, by ICBM, SLBM , ABM systems and space based systems of both sides ) moreover in this apocalyptical scenario several SAMs brigades in strategic positions would be quickly converted to nuclear warheads and ,as you well know, them would get an effective range more than doubled (not having any necessity to keep energy to manoeuvre in the terminal interception phase) and would need no more than the imprecise coordinates coming from an OTH radar for destroy enemy aircraft or group of cruise missiles ,considering that even only three of those thermonuclear missiles could obliterate an entire enemy air fleet outside the border of the nation in a kill radius of several dozen of kilometers !!!
Russian IRST technology or Russian IR guided AAM technology, S-300PM ,S-300VM ,S-400 , BUK-M1/2, Tor-M1/2, Tunguska-M1, Pantsir-S
vs F35 or F22???????
even assuming the F-22 was totally invisible at any distance, the weapons it uses are not.
Those ideal Lockheed Martin RCS figures won't hold up very long when the aircraft is being engaged from many angles.
If a flight of four F-22s tried to engage a target protected by a battery of 6 Pantsir-S1s the SAMs would be able to engage 24 targets at a time, so even if all four aircraft released 5 weapons each, the battery would be able to deal with all the targets and the aircraft at once. The high speed of the missiles of the Pantsir-S1 system means that those targets would be rapidly engaged and a follow up engagement for another 24 targets would probably allow 2-3 engagements before any weapons from the F-22s could reach their targets... which means they probably wont.
Clearly one flight of 4 F-22s is not good enough in this case, so more would be needed.
Odds are there will be more Pantsir-S1 batteries than there will be F-22s.
We know the F-22 is not invisible in the visible light wave range because we can see it.
Russian optics makers have been experimenting with Image Intensification scopes with small computers in them for processing the light. It seems they have found a way to separate natural light from artificial light, so an object that is painted or dyed with artificial colours can be made to glow... put that in the nose of a missile and it can be used to shoot down F-22s all day and night.
Stealth can be dealt with effectively.
and the jet i was talking about is not european its Russian.
I ignore ur last comment.