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China’s WW2 parade guest list has meanings

The western countries have a misconception that if they do not grace an international event, it loses importance. It’s a hangover from the colonial era. But then, the vanity has limits, too – provided, there is serious money involved. How the western countries fell over each other to join the China-led Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank [AIIB] as ‘founding members’ is legion. They instinctively saw AIIB as a free ride on Chinese money and no amount of American persuasion could keep them away from the honey pot. Britain and Germany hold very little equity in the AIIB in comparison with India, but are keen on the commercial spin off from the investment projects.

Alas, there is no money in China’s celebrations over the 70th anniversary of World War II. And there is no David Cameron at the ceremony in Beijing on September 3. The western media insists it’s a ‘snub’. Whereas, China says it didn’t press the invite but left to the invitees to suit themselves. At any rate, why should any country ‘snub’ China for celebrating a magnificent victory over fascism? There wasn’t any Holocaust in the Asian theatre, but the marauding Japanese army was no less horrific in war crimes than Nazi Germany.

China wasn’t the aggressor in World War II. It didn’t spill Anglo-Saxon blood. China’s participation took the form of its liberation struggle against Japanese imperialism.

No doubt, the impact of World War II on the Asian region was historical. Fundamentally, the war galvanized the national movements across the region. Asia could shake off the colonial yoke, finally.

But in geopolitical terms, the single biggest beneficiary turned out to be the United States. The war on Japan – and the deliberate use of atomic weapons – enabled the US to eventually get embedded in the Asian region. Today, it claims to be an ‘Asian power’.

On the other hand, the biggest loser was Imperial Britain, since its decline as a second rate power really began when it found that clinging on to the Indian colony was no longer sustainable. Of course, India’s independence in 1947 is attributable to World War II.

All the same, if the expected line-up in Beijing next week is interesting, it is for three reasons. First, Russian President Vladimir Putin’s presence in Beijing on September 2-4 affirms beyond doubt that the quasi-alliance between the two big powers is only getting stronger by the day and world politics and the international system will be profoundly affected by the Sino-Russian strategic partnership.

Second, the absence of the western countries at the celebrations underscores that they are a long way from accepting China as a strategic partner – and, furthermore, that if push comes to shove, blood will prove thicker than water and the Europeans will dutifully line up behind the US in any confrontation with China. Germany or Britain cannot do without the Chinese market to ensure that their economies remain resilient, but they see China inherently as an adversarial power in the world order. Their disquiet over China’s rise is compounded by the acute awareness of the West’s decline after a long history of global dominance since the Industrial Revolution.

Third, the presence of South Korean President Park Geun-hye as well as the absence of Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe and North Korean leader Kim Jong UN will make a significant template of the emergent realignments in the politics of the Far East. China and South Korea have drawn together as strong economic partners, while Park’s presence in Beijing will underscore the two countries’ shared concerns over the rise of militarism in Japan under Abe. Significantly, setting aside speculations, Park decided to attend the military parade as well. (See my blog Soldiers and diplomats march on China’s Tian’anmen.)

As for Abe, he understands that the gala event in Beijing next week carries the message that China has inexorably begun outstripping Japan in its comprehensive national power and it is virtually impossible to reverse the tide. The consequent adjustment that Japan needs to make is going to be extremely painful, because it never before in modern history had to live under the shadow of China’s superior power.

Indeed, Kim’s absence simply proclaims one thing – China and North Korea are no longer ‘as close as lips to teeth’. It calls attention to the changing character of the relationship between the two neighbors, which involves the complicated transition from one of alliance to a tangled partnership. The shared ideological affinity and close personal equations at the leadership level have given way. Pared to the bone, what remains is China’s own security calculus and its pursuit of pragmatic cooperation to leverage Pyongyang’s policies.

@Keel @Beidou2020 , @cirr , @Jlaw , @+4vsgorillas-Apebane
 
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I say fcuk them.

Celebrate with friends, not with party crashing foreigners who act like their presence is of paramount importance. Their loss in not going, no one will miss them.

People will be watching the parade and celebrating China putting Japan back in place.

The perception that Chinese contribution in ww2 is minimal will change with rising Chinese influence and power. If I recall correctly, most Frenchman back in the late 40s were of the opinion that the Soviet Union was the country that toppled Nazi Germany. The West has lied so much that most now believe that the U.S.A brought down Hitler and the Third Reich.
 
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The vast majority of the world didn't attend either the Chinese or Russian parades not just the Western countries.
 
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As long as Putin is there, he is the most important foreign leader to be present. Abe is a no show because the US is a no show. Dogs need to obey their master if they want to eat. Stating Japan is angry at China for upstaging them as a regional power is minor. China throughout her history has always been more powerful than Japan except for the early to mid 20th century.
 
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The vast majority of the world didn't attend either the Chinese or Russian parades not just the Western countries.

Doesnt mean you guys "alone" won the war.

If not for Russia, Britain would have been doomed. I must say, you should reserve some gratitude to Russians, who faced the largest loss in WW2
 
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They will in due time. Make no mistake, The South Korean President's attendance is VERY VERY significant. A huge shift in 'western' nations becoming close to China. Out of Europe, either Germany or the UK will come around soon too, like they did with the AIIB. The lapdogs are starting to bite off their collar.
 
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Doesnt mean you guys "alone" won the war.

If not for Russia, Britain would have been doomed. I must say, you should reserve some gratitude to Russians, who faced the largest loss in WW2
Glad they were there yes but why gratitude? They were doing it for themselves. They only declared war after they were invaded having cooperated with Germany for the previous two years.

I say fcuk them.

Celebrate with friends, not with party crashing foreigners who act like their presence is of paramount importance. Their loss in not going, no one will miss them.

People will be watching the parade and celebrating China putting Japan back in place.

The perception that Chinese contribution in ww2 is minimal will change with rising Chinese influence and power. If I recall correctly, most Frenchman back in the late 40s were of the opinion that the Soviet Union was the country that toppled Nazi Germany. The West has lied so much that most now believe that the U.S.A brought down Hitler and the Third Reich.
What contribution did China make outside of China itself? There was a force in Burma I recall but not much else.
 
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Glad they were there yes but why gratitude? They were doing it for themselves. They only declared war after they were invaded having cooperated with Germany for the previous two years.

Ever heard of the failed appeasement policy of Britain with respect to Germany? The Britain never declared war, until a time, it was shameful not to be declare war against Germany. If Britain can wait patiently so many years, even in the midst of German aggresion, why cannot Russia wait for its right time?

Last time I saw, there were self glorification of the western armies in their movies, without a thought for the soviets who had bled for the same. Shameful changing of history if you ask me.
 
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Glad they were there yes but why gratitude? They were doing it for themselves. They only declared war after they were invaded having cooperated with Germany for the previous two years.


What contribution did China make outside of China itself? There was a force in Burma I recall but not much else.

By taking on the majority of the Japanese army and preventing them from fighting outside of mainland China. Had China simply capitulated Frenchman style, the Japanese would have wrought havoc on the world.

The Japanese talk and preach honor and bushido but in reality, if they have total power over you virtues and honor goes out the window. They will kill, torture and rape with no remorse. Look at their treatment of captured Chinese cities and allied soldiers. Same story over and over and imagine such an army unleashed on the world.
 
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Ever heard of the failed appeasement policy of Britain with respect to Germany? The Britain never declared war, until a time, it was shameful not to be declare war against Germany. If Britain can wait patiently so many years, even in the midst of German aggresion, why cannot Russia wait for its right time?

Last time I saw, there were self glorification of the western armies in their movies, without a thought for the soviets who had bled for the same. Shameful changing of history if you ask me.
Appeasement and active alliance are quite different things.
 
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Ever heard of the failed appeasement policy of Britain with respect to Germany? The Britain never declared war, until a time, it was shameful not to be declare war against Germany. If Britain can wait patiently so many years, even in the midst of German aggresion, why cannot Russia wait for its right time?

Last time I saw, there were self glorification of the western armies in their movies, without a thought for the soviets who had bled for the same. Shameful changing of history if you ask me.

My unknowing friend. Why does every idiot think ww2 started in 1938 or 1939? Do you even realize what position Germany was in before that? Between ww1 and ww2? Germany had the right to exterminate any non-German European (especially the French and British) for what they put Germany through. The strongest and wealthiest European nation was put in a dog house. Not only Versailles, but also not allowing them to export anything, claiming every other market, having colonized half the world. How the hell can you imagine a Europe without German exports today? Read your history, not just the one your masters (GB) tell you to read.
 
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To understand the rise of Hitler, one has, among many other things, listen to what Benjamin Freedman said in 1961.


Also important to understand the whole story, one also needs to know who financed Hitler's rise. In that regard, we can start with Prescot Bush, yes, the father of the old Bush and grandfather of the young Bush.

Other supporters of Hitler were:
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China doesn't attend their Singles' Day celebrations, either. How cares.

Also, heard that a lot of those Western European countries are not even formally invited. They did act like they think very high of themselves.
 
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Glad they were there yes but why gratitude? They were doing it for themselves. They only declared war after they were invaded having cooperated with Germany for the previous two years.


What contribution did China make outside of China itself? There was a force in Burma I recall but not much else.

You need to check East Asia history. After Japan occupied whole Korea, Korean politicians established Great Republic of Korea in China as a temporary regue government. Korean politicans, students, patriotic groups moved and developed in China which keep leadership, organization, political frame for Korea. Temporary government of Republic of Korea declared war against Japan in 1941. When WWII ended, they went back to Korea and established present South Korea.
Similar situation provided with some North Korean, Vietnamese politicians and patriotic groups.
 
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